ok, well i've been playing on and off all day, and i've noticed that when i play the mp of the game, i can only play for sessions of about 30-45 minutes, and then it does the thing where my monitor goes to sleep.

what is that anyway, and what does it mean?

chronogamer27

Sound like a heat problem, check all temps.. Mobo, CPU,GPU... (Ofc. not in idle, temp should be when ingame playing.)

ok from now on my thought on Maxing a game is

obviously all graphics settings as high as it will go, and the AA and AF as high as it will go in game, no the Nvidia control panel

and then you also need 30+ FPS (30 being the lowest you get) except for crysis, i rekon 25+ is good for crysis

and then theres another questino, what if like Crysis theres only V. high on Vista?? does that mean that only Vista ppl can max a game, and i mean in game settings, so no tweaking, Lehman

Agreed!

For games utilice DX10 (crysis..) the only way of max them is to get acsess to V.hihg settigs and if thats in Vista then: yes.

This is my thougths...

Max/Maxed game...

All ingame settings are on max. (include AA and AF, if 16xAA is the max ingame setting so yes 16xAA should be enabled!)

Playable framerates. (Well it depends on the eye of the beholder, is 15*ish fps playable?.. no)

Easy!

:P

[QUOTE="eva89"]

i think you should invest in hd3850 or 9600gt.

and u need 450-500watt only.for this rig.

darkmagician06

Yes, this is common aswers, but why people recomend spending a bit more in GFX is that most certanly games that´ll come out next year or so will be more demanding even on that reslolution, and more powerful GFX the more futureprof.

1280*1024 for now yes, but in a year or more.. no... 8600 will need a upgrade soon, and thats somthing to have in mind when buying a whole new rig.

If you could find HD3850 or 8800GS for ~150 then go for it, there about dubble the perform of an 8600...

Yes, HD3850 is good for o/c but thats when a aftermarket cooler is mounted, the single slot stock cooler sucks, it does not keep GPU cool enough for a big o/c.

People acually with Volt mod got clocks a fair bit over 900mhz core, (HD3850) the 55nm core is a o/c beast and scale good in o/c, but all cards does o/c diffrent, some are able to make 770mhz without bios/volt mod (My does.) and some stop at 740 without extra volt added, So it´s sorta lottery.

does volt mod require solder because i really couldnt be bothered doing that.

according to ati's overdrive its tells me that i can get

GPU: 758mhz

Mem clock: 854mhz

would that up much frames?

crippo_gamer

There's a "pencil mod" who you only take a pencil and draw on one of the component's on the card, I don't recommend you toying around with those things if you don't know what you're doing.

(Well it also includes me...)

I recon you tryed "find max setting"?

but I suggest you try O/C them separately, cos "find max" bump them both up and you don't get both mem and core's max only the one that stops first. (maybe the core?)

Test bump up the MHz separately.

for ex.

core at stock (669) then up the mem by 10MHz cycles and run 3Dmark06... (most card's I've seen make about 1000MHz)

when artifacts show lower 20MHz.

try the same at core MHz.

(mem at stock. and up the core by 10mhz cycles and run 3Dmark....)

then when you know the separately max MHz you can put both core and mem max speed.

(Always lower core and mem from it's max.)

Yes, frame-rate wont drop as bad as they did. but I doubt your crysis setting will be higher.

Zalman VF700 works great for me on my HD3850.

Im not sure you could ever play crysis without mixed settings even if you O/C but a few more FPS is there on the card.

this is my 24/7 O/C 740core/1000mem

zalman alow me to go 770 on the core but then I need more volt, if you need to get past 770 on core, you need to volt mod your card.

The stock fan is crap and i cant seem to change it's speed even with rivatuner so iam thinking of getting a zalman.

the stock clocks are:

Core Clock: 670Mhz

Memory Clock: 829Mhz

What should I increase them to to get a good frame rate in crysis with high graphics?

crippo_gamer

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[QUOTE="Lehman"]when ppl say they max a game, does it mean 16x AA and AF or just the settings (texture, water wuality) that kinda stuff??

or is it 4x AA and 16x AF??

i dont get this,
pcgamer_07

Actually, some people in Gamespot-forums say they max game when they run 1280x1024 no AA and AF and some of the settings on low.. (most when it´s about 8600gt and crysis)

If someone say -"I max out crysis", it´s max on ALL settings, if not then it's NOT max. (Ok, V-sync could be set off.)

And most people never max out games, they play at their native resolution, it´s a wase to play more than the monitor can handle.

Max should be a banned word, if people say I max out.. Then I'll know it's probably on medium some at high and some at low without AA...

so...

I don't get this either.. ban the word max!

I consider 'maxed' when all in-game settings are turned to the highest. AA and AF are seperate for me.

And for the record I can play Crysis with medium settings at 1280x1024 res, and I haven't come across anyone saying that they can max it out with a 8600GT.

Im not sure i could get proof for the 8600 vs crysis (well it´s about 1200 threads to search) but when I consider "maxed" I consider ALL settings maxed, and that with playable framerates, I´ve read things in this forum people say somthing like this..-

-"I max out crysis on a 8600gt... btw shaders on low.."

Well then it´s not maxed then.

What i was trying with my post is.

When speaking of max. AA and AF is enabled, all settings is on max resolution is at hihgest possible, water and shadows are at max and so on...

Many should insted of say I max out...

Say: Most setting are on high/max without AA and AF enabled shaders are on low, resolution 1280*1024 that give me an average of ___fps.

This may sound stupid but people tend to say "MAX/MAXED" when they give others their advice about buying new hardware.

No-one will know how good max is if no-one use the same MAX, if we are to compare diffrent hardware both hardware-parts need to do the same setting for having a decent way of knowing the result. (comparing hardware is "all-day-long" in this forum)

but, I know it's not going to be so, people will just continue to say MAX/MAXED out when thay mean mixed settings, and they will give others advice that xxxx card will get crysis maxed out.

But as far I've got this of my chest and mabey no-one get my point but I think this is sorta the way it works here.

hay, no harsh to anyone, I just want to ban max/Maxed ;)

when ppl say they max a game, does it mean 16x AA and AF or just the settings (texture, water wuality) that kinda stuff??

or is it 4x AA and 16x AF??

i dont get this,
Lehman

Actually, some people in Gamespot-forums say they max game when they run 1280x1024 no AA and AF and some of the settings on low.. (most when it´s about 8600gt and crysis)

If someone say -"I max out crysis", it´s max on ALL settings, if not then it's NOT max. (Ok, V-sync could be set off.)

And most people never max out games, they play at their native resolution, it´s a wase to play more than the monitor can handle.

Max should be a banned word, if people say I max out.. Then I'll know it's probably on medium some at high and some at low without AA...

so...

I don't get this either.. ban the word max!