[QUOTE="swehunt"][QUOTE="zenzen"][QUOTE="Spartan8907"]

http://www.ebuyer.com/product/136304

There you go. Thats a much better buy than the 8600 GTS.

Just wondering, what was the wattage of the PSU you were trying thr run the 8800 GT with?

Luminouslight

PCIe v2.0 will work on a PCIe v1.0

HD3850...

that´s a much better choice than a 8600gts 256mb, about dubble the performance and in same pricerange.

HDseries spec. 3850 is not so powerdemanding.

8800GT need 22A i think, why would they not work with your PSU if it´s 650 28A on 12V rail?, probably cos you forgot the extra 8/6pin powerconector.

The card probably would still run even if you forgot it; my 7800gt just doesn't go to full power, the clock is halved.

Yes, maybe so, but I'm quite convinced it was the card malfunctioning not those PSU.

Edit: I meant, if you try 3 different PSU and 2 off ém more than capable of running it, sure it's not due to the PSU.?

[QUOTE="spacedog1973"]I suggest you limit the upload speed in the torrent application.vitriolboy

should the upload speed be a certain proportion of the download speed? if so, what?

No, the upload speed should be in proportion to your bandwidth up.

(if you have 100kb up you only set torrent's to upload in 70kb when you surf on internet, your web-browser ned some headroom for get and send stuff when browsing.)

Harmon Kardon make high quality AVR's. I would consider the AVR 247 as it has HDMI inputs and output making it better for a home theatre. I have had three H/K systems and all have been high quality and sound great with quality speakers. I may be biased about the AVR 247 as that is what I am presently using.

AlligatorAl

I would say Harman Kardon is one of the best.

I´ve had a few systems and is sorta Audiofile, I´ve compared Harman K, Sony, Pioneer, Marants, Kenwood set to set.

Harman Kardon recivers is absolute best at its respective prisrange. Very distortion free and neutral sound (Unlike Sony and Pioneer), solid Cap´s and transistors that´ll last long.

Sadly was harman brougth up for a few years ago and the pulled out som fancy ALU-blue led-piano-finnish on their stuff. quality on knobs and input/output-conectors is not as good as before either.

(ALL H/K were black before, and absolute rock solid.)

As of those speakers, I´d go fullsice/range fronts, small center and small satelite´s back, your Movie and Music experience will be better than with 5 small satelite and one subwoofer.

I´d go with an Harman fact I own one. ;)

[QUOTE="Spartan8907"]

http://www.ebuyer.com/product/136304

There you go. Thats a much better buy than the 8600 GTS.

Just wondering, what was the wattage of the PSU you were trying thr run the 8800 GT with?

zenzen

PCIe v2.0 will work on a PCIe v1.0

HD3850...

that´s a much better choice than a 8600gts 256mb, about dubble the performance and in same pricerange.

HDseries spec. 3850 is not so powerdemanding.

8800GT need 22A i think, why would they not work with your PSU if it´s 650 28A on 12V rail?, probably cos you forgot the extra 8/6pin powerconector.

Your best opinion. please & Ty.PS2_PC_FAN

Useful app when OC GPU is Gpu-z, it cant overclock but tells you all there is about your gpu and vram OC, bandwidth, Vram latency and more... perfect complements to both ATI Tool and Riva Tuner.

[QUOTE="Thinker_145"][QUOTE="neatfeatguy"][QUOTE="swehunt"][QUOTE="neatfeatguy"][QUOTE="Thinker_145"]

Well your score of one G80 GTS and SLI arent much different either now are they?

And ofcourse 3dmark runs in 12x10 with no AA.SLI is hardly worth it with those settings.In higher resolutions and using higher AA is when SLI really comes into it's own.

Anyways your assumption of one 512MB GTS being almost as good as SLI 640GTS is pretty wrong.The 512MB GTS is about 20% faster than the 640GTS whereas SLI gives you anything from 40-80% performance increase.I think you should know better anyways.Ofcourse their are times when SLI doesnt work at all and then the 512GTS would beat a 640GTS SLI but that's obvious isnt it.

If i were you i may have looked into upgrading the CPU.

neatfeatguy

I should have made it clear that my assumption was based on just 3DMark06 scores (default settings), not actual gameplay benchmarks.

Also, I know my CPU is a bit slow when compared to Intel....AMD runs slower and I would score much better if I had a halfway decent duo core from Intel. But my MB only supports AMD and I'm not spending any more money on upgrading. I just went from a 64 X2 3800+ to the 5600+ a few months back. That was a big step-up in performance.

Once I can afford 3-4 hundred bucks to spend on a new MB and CPU, I'm going to opt out of AMD (unless they can prove their Phenom can kick ass once they overhaul it) and pick up Intel for faster performance.

You guys should have seen the improvement I had from a single 8800GTS 640 when my CPU went from the 3800+ to the 5600+...almost up 2k on 3DMark06 scoring.

I'll post my 8800GTS 512MB SLI score when my second card comes in...it'll be about 10-12 days from now.

Sorry but your CPU is already bottlenecking one card so A pair GTS 512mb in SLI will be a very small or non upgrade, if you would get some performance of your card (even 1 of´em) upgrade your CPU first befor add another GTS 512.

So...what you're trying to say is that it's wrong to have two 8800GTS 512 cards in SLI with a CPU that is bottlenecking and that I absolutely must upgrade my CPU first.

Maybe you couldn't pick up on the fact that I know my CPU is bottlenecking my card right now in my previous post....then you throw in your two cents that has already been said before. You're adding nothing new to this topic. Here's what you need to do.

1. Read everything before you post
2. Make sure you're not saying the exact same thing others that have posted before you have already said
3. Me posting this info was just for comparison reasons, not to have everyone and their cousin post that I need to upgrade my CPU

When I get the money, I'll work on upgrading my CPU and MB....until that time, I'm going to be bottlenecking my graphic card(s).

This is why it sucks trying to be nice and post some useful (albeit it's probably not that useful to most) information for others to go off of. Instead of people looking at it and accepting it for what it is, they all have to throw in their two cents about how to better it or howtheir rig is better because they spent more money on it.....If I cared about your rig, I'd ask about it.

Just one more reason posting on these forums is a pain in the butt....perhaps I'll stop being helpful and just constantly point out flaws and mistakes without offering any new information to help with the problems.

So, everyone forgive me for trying to be helpful here. I will no longer do this. If a mod is watching....please lock this topic.

An E8400 with 640GTS SLI will be a better gaming PC than 512GTS SLI with your current CPU.

You talk that you dont have money why on earth would you bother to get a new GTS then instead of getting a new CPU. It's not like 640GTS SLI sucks or something:? anyways your money do what you like.

Once again....

I didn't start this topic asking people if my CPU is bottlenecking my graphic cards, did I? I came on to offer some info, nothing more.

Also, it's non of your concern about my financial situation when it comes to getting my hands on a new MB and CPU. Just because I upgraded my video cards doesn't mean I had to spend tons of money on them. So, sometime down the road when I finally do have the money for a new MB and CPU, I don't have to worry about upgrading my video cards to get good/great performance....I realize they're bottlenecked with my current system. As I said before, I didn't come here asking for people's opinions on my rig or rig comparisons, I was just offering a little info about the G80 and G92 8800GTS cards, nothing more.

I appreciate that some of you think I should get a new CPU and all, but you don't know my current situation - and then basically implying that I'm dumb for getting two nice GPUs and not upgrading my CPU/MB. Perhaps I'm mis-reading, but that's what I take from it.

So, once again, I appologize for offering some basic info. I won't do it again...

If, you´re ofended by people giving you good advice why post in first place?

And your comparison don´t realy say as much as there no performance jump from each card as their not the weak link in your rig.

As sad before, you act like a baby, why jump people?, you need to get some angermanegment? (referring to your "baby" reply of my post.)

If your personal finance is as good.. OK, Good then we'll see a real comparison when those card can perform at their best, not at their worst.

oh yes it can play all on high,i play crysis on very high for all settings except shaders which i think is useless and it plays smoothly no lag.my specs 4gb ram,8600gt ddr3 3.00ghzuchihataru

Liar, or you tryed far cry not crysis, If you play on very high you ment you play 1-2fps or blank screen?

[QUOTE="Thinker_145"]

Well your score of one G80 GTS and SLI arent much different either now are they?

And ofcourse 3dmark runs in 12x10 with no AA.SLI is hardly worth it with those settings.In higher resolutions and using higher AA is when SLI really comes into it's own.

Anyways your assumption of one 512MB GTS being almost as good as SLI 640GTS is pretty wrong.The 512MB GTS is about 20% faster than the 640GTS whereas SLI gives you anything from 40-80% performance increase.I think you should know better anyways.Ofcourse their are times when SLI doesnt work at all and then the 512GTS would beat a 640GTS SLI but that's obvious isnt it.

If i were you i may have looked into upgrading the CPU.

neatfeatguy

I should have made it clear that my assumption was based on just 3DMark06 scores (default settings), not actual gameplay benchmarks.

Also, I know my CPU is a bit slow when compared to Intel....AMD runs slower and I would score much better if I had a halfway decent duo core from Intel. But my MB only supports AMD and I'm not spending any more money on upgrading. I just went from a 64 X2 3800+ to the 5600+ a few months back. That was a big step-up in performance.

Once I can afford 3-4 hundred bucks to spend on a new MB and CPU, I'm going to opt out of AMD (unless they can prove their Phenom can kick ass once they overhaul it) and pick up Intel for faster performance.

You guys should have seen the improvement I had from a single 8800GTS 640 when my CPU went from the 3800+ to the 5600+...almost up 2k on 3DMark06 scoring.

I'll post my 8800GTS 512MB SLI score when my second card comes in...it'll be about 10-12 days from now.

Sorry but your CPU is already bottlenecking one card so A pair GTS 512mb in SLI will be a very small or non upgrade, if you would get some performance of your card (even 1 of´em) upgrade your CPU first befor add another GTS 512.

[QUOTE="swehunt"][QUOTE="Indestructible2"][QUOTE="swehunt"][QUOTE="Indestructible2"]

XFX 8800GS XXX vs Sapphire HD 3850 256MB: http://www.driverheaven.net/reviews/XFXGS_3850/index.php

Seems like 8800GS XXX wins out quite a bit of the time,and since most of my games aren't demanding and the 8800GS beats HD 3850 in Crysis,that'll most likely be the card i get for my Lanbox.

Indestructible2

Sorry but I actually was waiting on that review, but that just don´t do.

If I put it this way..

Is it proof to take a review of the most OC´d XFX 8800GS XXX card to battle against a stock cheapest HD3850 256mb card?

The XFX (OCéd 8800GS) received a 100mhz OC on the core (V-ram I dont know mabey a solid bit more?) , I recon if you put the stock XFX 8800GS 580mhz against the OCéd version of HD3850 mabey the HD38 won.

(And if you put a overclocked HD3850 512mb against a stock/standard 8800GS the HD will most certanly win.)

8800GS is a nice cheap card but to say it's faster and better than a HD3850 is just not true, they are very eave, who it's all acually breaks down to is of what card you get the best price on. The winner is the best price, not the perfomance wise.

This is a smart way of nvidia or getting god reviews, send the reviewers a copy of the most OCéd card to compete in a prewiew to set the score in benchmarks.

Sorry, where I live the HD3850 is 20-35$ cheaper (In Sweden and that´s where my bad Eng. comes from.), and I´ve tryed find a Stock vs. Stock review but cant seem find a single one. Only Oc éd 8800GS vs stock HD3850´s.. odd? ;)

And as I sad before, if you find the 8800GS card for a cheaper price, go for it!

But still, I doubth that a stock GS would beat a HD3850 that much worth mentioned. (that if you find one review.)

:P

I've been a few times in Chicago (10+2h flight), but that's the most practice I've got. (kinda, but whenever traveling
distant to.)

Yep, I agree all hype are for the nvidias 9xxx series.

More so when gaming but can also happen when doing nothing....QXMQ

Then first monitor your GPU core and if possible v-mem, check if there's any high temp included.

If that's all OK, try reinstall your drivers, downl. the newest from your card manufacturer.