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#1 theliar
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RomperStomper: Got any other preferred nicks? I sort of still don't have my "M" key so I have to copy/paste twice while putting your screen name up..slows me down. Can't really use "Sam" due to the new user unless they've got a different preferred nick >_>

So I've seen.

FiveGlory: No skips are allowed. When I said major, I forgot to clear things up by saying 'exploits'. Lesser exploits *basically anything that isn't a skip or Regenerating Magic* are all okay. Combat Exploits are never an issue here.

Sam: Got a nickname other then the one in use to the far left?..

No problem. If you didn't know already, I prefer to be called BigVEE or GodModeGOD (GMG) rather then 'liar' or any other of the various nicks I've used.

Then you need to practice effect execution of bounces/launches on the various foes you'll face. You do need quite a bit of skill to do this to Sirens though. I'd generally Gorgon Stare to crush those punks, PR whore, launch to air grab infinite or Spirit them at a distance. *that's for sirens in general rather then for that fight in those conditions*Tossing the 'Sheildman' at the Sirens is a strong way to weaken them for a PR or a serious of hits *just a series of Orion's Harpoon for instance*. I've done the entirety of a God NUR+ *up to the clones* without the need for magic though it can be difficult to use OH well enough when not skipping fights that are NOT forced anyway. I haven't played those conditions in a while so I'd say I just broke the shields, tossed the Legionnaires then beat on the Sirens with Artemis *launch to R1 back to back I think* or whored OH/air grabs. Hard to recall since I don't play GoW1 a whole lot these days.

Interesting that Zeus Fury is a spell of choice for you *note that a single bolt takes down Ares1 during his fireball barrage even at lvl1*. I forget what the weaknesses of Sirens are as I didn't have the guide until well after even GoWII's release and haven't yet been testing/putting it to practice.

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Ok I am now into the rings of Pandora and the challenges of certain gods I am past the first one which is Atlas, I didnt have problems with the mass of undead soldiers that kept respawning they were easy to get past, although I did have a few problems with the pack of Gorgans that came after but a lot of perserverance and I know past that. The next section with the few undead warriors up the stairs posed no problem to me I ripped them apart. The cursed archers the other side of the cavern were of no threat to me.

You didn't really have to battle those Gorgons as you could easily ignore the Undead Legionnaires that precede them. *though you kinda have to fight a few (when not skipping) by the door for ease of progressing* I would have suggested launches into PR *under where the crank that lowers the weight was*. Also Infinite Air Grabs as you CANNOT be stoned while doing grabs or PR. *just don't be in air too long..if you are..try Hermes Stomp into a roll*

When I got down the rope, the section going accross the rope with the undead coming onto the rope to get me kind of gave me a few problems but I gave it a lot of practise and kept chipping away at it and getting further with each attempt I put at it and eventually got through it with no problems. Taking Hades sheild I thought I would have a few teething problems as I remember not being able to get past it first time it took me a few fair go's at it to complete it, but I think what helped me this time around getting through it the first time I had the spirit and Valour moves on the blades which helped me get through it faster than the first time of playing the game.

A single kick to grab works wonders when you get good with it. AKheon has a new trick concerning rope fights but I don't have any practice with it myself *it will likely be considered a high level combat exploit*..I will correct this later as I'd like to do a little spelunking with it...

For Hades Shield, whoring of Spirit/Valor works, but back to back grab option "square" throws of Undead Legionnaires *or "O" on the Cursed Legionnaires* along the barrir works great..and PR really speeds things along *powering through that part is easy and quite enjoyable*.

The next section proved to be a little tricky, I did get through the room with the rolling blades in the floor easier this time around than I did in the first but it was the section after that with the conveyor belt and the closing spike walls, they did prove to be a problem for me on the way in on the way out of that area I did get into the R1 command and that got me through that section unscathed.

To be honest, I still have timing issues at that part. So you got used to Hermes Rush then? Good. Youshould *for fun if nothing else* get good with the various attacks you can use stemming from it:

R1

(air) R1 *I like this attack more for exploiting/positioning in a hurry*

NOTE: Follow up with rolls to cancel its landing buffer

R1 to roll *repeat for canceling effect*

R1, R1

R1,R1,R1 *I don't like Hermes Fury personally*

R1, square...*no real reason for this set-up unless you wish to have a Rush to Might*

R1, triangle...*a good starter which has thefaststrong set-up..good for Spirit of Hercules*

R1,triangle (hold) *startup plus Ascension if I recall right*

R1,R1, square *Rush to stab to Valor*

R1, R1, triangle *Rush to stab to Plume*

R1, R1, triangle (hold) *Rush to stab to Ascension*

R1, R1, triangle (press and hold triangle during the actual explosion of Plume for an Ascension follow up)

NOTE: You can of course mix into other unlisted attacks but this gives an idea as to where you can go with the attack

I didnt have any problems in the sections with Atlas and raising his boulder to break through the doors, nor did I have any problems taking down the enemies down in this area. The wall on the way to the temple at the top was easy taking out the undead and the haripes along the way, I did have a few problems in the room at the top with the sirens and the soldiers with the sheilds, but after I got into my rhythm I got there and took them down in no time.

And just what was this "rhythm"? Details PLOX.

I got to the section of the circular arena and taking on the first 3 headed cerebus and also the puppies, well I had some severe problems there. No matter what i tried it didnt work for me, but in the end I went with a blast of medusa's gaze at the big Cerebus and then the good old trusty plume, and then I eventually got through there and on to the second set of desert kings. I took full advantage of the bridge leading up to the arena and killed them from there, and the archers well they were a push over, I got all the chests in the revolving room which I was unable to get the first time around.

Gorgon Flash to crushing for the Breeder and Plumes for pups was it? You could want to get good with taking advantage of the fact that Breeders can be launched/bounced in GoW1..so they have Infinite Air Grabs *takes a while*. Also, PR does great against Seeds. In the NUR/NUR+..they are far more troublesome. strong understanding of how to use Orion's Harpoon effectively will help.

All very good.

The second section of that area with the Legion captains, they were easy and the mintaurs were a joke to me as I got further up because I now have level 5 maxed out blades and they were a push over for me. I am now into the section of where I have to push the crate with the undead soldier up the hill whilst taking out the undead warriors as I go up to fry him so I can get further. But I dont think I am going too badly at the moment and I will be back to keep you posted when I have got even further in the game.

Did you get to practice the launch to air grabs to grab to launch to air grab strat on any Captains? You could find yourself using Gorgon Stare and/or Flash *they can be combined in GoW1* to allow for Captain crushing as that allows FAST progress up the hill while dropping the cage 1/2 way on one of the various rocks.

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#3 theliar
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FiveGlory: What all skips/exploits have you used thus far? If they are major, a restart is recquired.

Sam: It is just R1 thrusts canceled (it can hit up to 5 times on a single target) with blocks straight into another R1 thrust. You can use square hits between these with variation for a very skilled handling *rolling when you need to get clear of attackers* I use it heavily in my handling of CotG7 w/ Artemis (one of the vids I have as BigVEE)

Did you not find the Infinite Air Grab sufficient in handling Sirens? PR also helps well enough.

RomperStomper: You can see how this poses a problem (user called "Sam3790" with no known nicks)..also why such a thought could be drawn. Just look at all the things brought up in earlier posts..very little would contradict a paranoid line of thinking's conclusion..

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#4 theliar
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FiveGlory: LAWL I'll overlook the Athens Skip. This is your first time through a God NUR+ is it not? You aren't suppossed to use skips or major exploits like Regenerating Magic *don't know if you've activated this one but it isn't allowed for actually earning the run to your list*

A pity about your copy. Your library carries GoW? Interesting.

Sam: You sound an aweful like RomperStomper *if she was slightly ahead of the schedule I recall and feeling up to playing*. I just find this new account to be an eye-drawer for quite a few reasons..

At any rate, you need to learn to control Artemis (still) so you can use at least "Punt" on the 11 Hades Satyrs. You'll be wanting good control of the R1 abuse tactic for Ares1 *if you wish to end your run with bang*.

Gorgons are easily handled with the Blades..it can be difficult to use Artemis against a group of them.

Collisions work differently in GoW1 and I've yet to study how they work *IF I'll be able to figure it out*.

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#5 theliar
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Alucard: Quite Right

~So..anyone have any updates on their runs?

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#6 theliar
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Well, just now I found my name in this thread and my NUR result is "empty"...... It looks a bit strage. So I'd like to report my NUR result now. I didn't play NUR for a long time as I was addicted to speedrun, but I tried NUR before speedrun. I completed GoW2 Titan mode NUR+. I didn't record the whole run but I uploaded a video of the endurance run(Titan, NUR+, no magic, no RotT, no chests) on YouTube 8 months ago: http://youtube.com/watch?v=xXe3qgMBkT0 I have tried the GoW1 God mode NUR+ too, but I didn't beat the clones and didn't record anything. Also I forgot to introduce myself in the "welcome thread", head for it now........shenminiu

I had figured you had done *or at least would eventaully do* at least one of the things to qualify for this thread so I had it set up in advance. I've editted that post with the new info.

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#7 theliar
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Hi everyone! I joined this club several days ago but haven't introduce myself here, sorry for that. My name is shenminiu. I love GoW series and have played quite a long time on these games, espacilly GoW2. I have completed GoW1 God mode NUR+(except clones) and GoW2 Titan NUR+, GoW2 CotT all stage all item "TITAN" ranking + bonus achived. And the most recent work is GoW2 Titan speedrun(with GMG, MistryMan and some other players). Good to see the GoW players here!shenminiu

So now we have a proper introduction *excellent*.

So that is your name.*good enough for me*

I'll add these to the NUR club *specialty run thread*if I hadn't already *along with FiveGlory's work*

-GoW1 God NUR+

-Titan NUR+

~Welcome

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#8 theliar
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New are you?

I'll just roll with that...keep us posted.

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#9 theliar
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FiveGlory: So you've begun your first God NUR+ (GoW1). I'll add you to the list in due time *as pending until done*. Of course you should know that you need only get to Ares1. I do ask that you fight and defeat Ares1 though just to have a proper ending to the run.

CotT and CotG conquered. As to be expected from any player who's beat the 'Very Hard' setting on either title already.

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#10 theliar
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So I've seen.