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Alucard: BoO can really break the GK:TM:NUR when you know how to properly utilize DR *safely*. So where are you now? The save point before the Saddles puzzle?Alucard_rules

I was as of that last post, now I'm at the save point after the Barbarian King.

I take it that BK wasn't giving you too much of a hard time (if any). What worked for you? What about Destiny's Atrium?(how things went) I suppose that future GK:TM:NUR BoO run will be VERY relevant for 1st time runs in those conditions seeing as DR whoring is such a popular choice there.

Well, it seems as though MANY changes have been done around here...

Things change but always stay the same...

First order of business... HELLO EVERYONE! I've missed you!!!!! Eternal, Inferno, GMG (although from my breif pass thru on the home page here, I see he is no longer here, yet here?! :? (I've missed you so, I hope you arn't really gone!)

I've gone no where. GodModeGOD lives on. Been busy exploiting. The SoD FAQ vid series is ready to continue as the exploit craze has settled down just a bit...sort of a refresher. I need to power through the Translator to keep my own interest peaked as staying at the same spot too long while trying to get new/better results can be draining to ones morale..hints of progress help. Taking breaks can be foolish as one may not return to the job for a LONG time.

Second order of business... I am about to quit my god aweful 2nd job and will resume my NUR, get back to posting more regularly, and thank the GODS that I don't have to do that slave labor anymore!!! *happy dance*

Very nice. Hope to hear of progress in the near future.

Thirdly.. Happy NEW YEAR to you all!!

Right back at you. Though personally..I feel indifferent towards New Years.

Ok, I think thats enough out of me for now, I'll let you all re-coop from the shock of my return.. LOL ^_^

Right, right, right. Onward.

AuthItalynGyrl

booyakasha: Then you should be having quite a bit of 'fun' in the near future. NUR CotT will prove challenging here and there..if not to simply beat..to get a "Titan" on a few. I need to try getting 'overall' Titanranking on each of the seven under theseconditions..I think there were a few I wasn't able to do in one pass by.

Inferno: I'll take that into consideration. For now I'll be looking over these FAQs I was sent..reviewing them for my own amusement.

Raise just pillars 1,3 and 5 to cross the whole section, that's great. I also think that it seems to be doable before. But I think the designers will never let us to do so. So I haven't tried, then you confirm it now, another useful exploit, good.

I thought aboutit in the past but didn't really consider it seriously until after using the 1/2 swing on them. When I did it, I needed the SoD/BoO leap to get a little extra speed/length so I can't be sure about NP until I try with the Hammer or without any form of 'leaping'. I'll have to test that later.

For jump to the top directly, I think you can use PR version to test it, it's easier. And I believe that it's skippable.

I haven't done a lot of practicing with the PR version so I'd have to do that as well. It remains unlikely that I'll be able to test this BP skip since timing is no strong suit of mine.

For Zeus stage 2, I think the possible way to beat him fast without enough HPis DR. Sometimes Zeus can not do anything to counter you under DR damage(he just keep retreating back), so just keep firing DR. But it depends on your luck, sometimes it works but not always. And if you are luckly enough,you can beat himnearly the same fast without losingmuch HP.

That was the only BoO strat I could think of. So nothing terribly surprising about that. It isn't all luck as we know..but he can be a little random even with a little thought put into how fast you shoot..so there is a degree of luck I too see. Do you think we have enough HP (base level)for Stage 4 to just use the RotT BoO strat that was already in use?

shenminiu

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So you've tried it out already I see. About 40 seconds..nice. So you found it a bit difficult yourself? Now I don't feel so bad about how troublesome I found it to be.

At least there is a save point just before said section...though that visual cue/cutscene is a bit of a problem. In Bonus Play terms..it doesn't appear sensible in most cases to NOT use the swim glitch and other big skips (even for bosses) if they save time.

Alucard: BoO can really break the GK:TM:NUR when you know how to properly utilize DR *safely*. So where are you now? The save point before the Saddles puzzle?

drifter: Your call. It would likely have served you well to know what went right/wrong in your handling. Proof is generally for those who are new to the board/thread.

It is no wonder why you would have trouble. I've probably done 12 runs with focus on the SoD. About 7-8 of those had focus on using Typhon's Bane as well. I haven't done very many runs that weren't on Titan w/ General Kratos lately. So I've got a lot of time in with that subweapon. The Hammer doesn't take long to get a handle of. You can be adept with it before the end of one run..if you know about Bow/Head Tricking/Canceling..you could end the run with mastery of the thing. This is not the case with the SoD I'd have to say. To a lesser extent..this is true for the BoO too.

Until then.

We shall see.

NOTE: The video series aren't nearly over yet. I've already recorded Atlas Lift and the battle outside the Palace of the Fates. I've yet to record the Spiked Floor/Nymph battle *though I have what I willshow down fairly well now*. I'll be working all over again with Wave 3 of the Translator which I nearly had down before I got sidetracked with theHigh Jump/exploiting craze that sprang to life about a day before I would have been ready to just get the recording over with.

Though I did note a few findings whilst working on it again. (RotT-Translator defense-Kratos Defense correlation, repeat speech about Collision being weakened by RotT and actual number used to divide collision power by when RotT is used on a given setting) I find such info wildly useful..a HUGE error (kicking a hound at the GK:TM:NUR Translator) can potentially be averted with a quick burst of RotT..dropping the power of the atttack to 26 (out of 100) and then adding triple defense to the punk..that prevents the piece of trash from dying there and then at least..

I've also been getting new songs as I've begun to run out of desirable choices for each vid and I have quite a few that I've never bothered to obtain...plus the occassional few that I learn of after seeing YouTube vids. This latest update to the SoD FAQ has taken FAR longer then I initially expected..but 'tis the price one pays gladly when such discoveries grace ones presence along the way

shenminiu: That's good enough. So we'll continue as we have been doing. Now we'll just list what is considered a major/minor exploit just for reference I suppose.

Satvara's run has been down since he uploaded it at GT quite a while back *got reported/taken down*. He has been unable to get it back up since. We don't hear from him a whole lot so little is known about him, who has inspired his work or even what he'll be doing next. He has a YouTube account showing a few of the places he exploited in his run, plus tricks that were found AFTER his run had been finished.

As for not collecting Gorgon Eyes..seems sensible but then again..as I don't do that sort of testing let alone speedrunning..I'd have to leave that to MistryMan.

I was playing around at the 5 pillar raising puzzle after Euryale when I was able to raise just pillars 1,3 and 5 to cross the whole section. *difficult for me as this sort of play isn't one of my strengths* I was also able to practice the Infinite Jump..before I could do at best 2 L1 lifts in a row. I've now been able to do 5 in a row..still not perfect at it..not even consistant..but I generally get between 2-4 lifts now. Because I wasn't able to get high enough to test..I couldn't try out going (BP) straight to the top without using the pillars (Infinite Jump required). Though we know the swim glitch can be used..I just don't do so well with using it let alone activating it. I'll continue to look around for ways to exploit here and there.

Any ideas about how you would like to handle Zeus Stages 2 and 4 without the extra HP to sacrifice for a RotT BoO barrage?

Due to not being able to keep Regenerating Magic..I don't think we can cut out all the Feathers..as for cutting out one whole upgrade (6)..perhaps..I don't know though..we sort of like going apes*** with that power.

MistryMan: Right back at you. What are your plans for the future (GoW related)

If you wish for such a thread to be taking seriously, I'd advise expanding upon the base you've started with.

Right now it doesn't ask what sort of run was being done or even what difficulty they were on. It doesn't list full stats either. Just concerning Titan difficulty is semi-fair play I suppose so I won't speak against you should it be decided by yourself that this thread only concerns Titan difficult and other such runs on it.

~makes me wish that AotF was a lot more customizable..I'd at least like it to keep accurate time of a single attempt at custom Challenges rather then a total time including restarts..

bump for new discussion.

Right now our list for acceptable MAX runs is a bit high and needs revisions. I will modify according to reason whilst looking at the newest runs.If you have anything to say on that note, please share.

I have a few questions I'd like to state here..

What of major exploits/skips? Do we accept such runs? I say yes.What say you?

Do we consider them as just another part of a standard speedrun? I'd prefer not doing so. Your thoughts?

Do we consider them unique/seperate run type? This would call for a little work on the way the page 1 list works.Suggestions?

How do we classify major exploits? *we should list what we consider such..Ex: Regenerating magic* (as oppossed to listed minor exploits like "Sweet Spots") Basically Regenerating Magic, Swim Glitch, all 'Jumps'/Lifts and Skips are "major" to me. I find Homeruns, Sweet Spots *acts/places that fool AI*, all cancels/tricking, etc.to be "minor".I'd like to discuss this with at least a few other TUGOWU members.

shenminiu: Welcome to TUGOWU. I'll be adding your work to the Speedrun thread. I don't yet know if we'll bother to differentiate runs by exploit/exploitless...I'll put that up for debate in the proper thread. As for this thread, done any Specialty Runs we should know about ? *NUR/NUR+, GK:TM:NUR, NCR, etc.*

Never tried NUR CotT? It can be interesting though challenges like CotT3 aren't really effected a whole lot.

Funny that of all things, I've never really worked towards getting Titan on all CotT (every stat). I'll have to do that soon as the only one I had already is CotT2. I play AotF far more often then the actual challenges >_>. Nice work though.

It's dark today so no recording..guess I'll work with what I've recorded just to put a few new things up.

drifter: I don't ask for such proof. If you wish to show where you stand right now (skill/tactics-wise) so that we can offer comments, advice/suggestions, compliments, etc., then by all means.

You haven't been using the SoD for very long I'd have to imagine so it would be odd if you DID do very well with it so quickly. It isn't a weapon you just pick up and pwn with.

GoW1 God NUR+ I take it. I'd ask only that you get to Ares1 to have finished it..but I prefer you at least beat Ares1 and try your hand at the clones just to say you did so. Should you need assistance, you know where to look/ask.

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