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#1 theliar
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Hello my name is finalfan789, and God of War II is my 2nd favorite game of all time. I come here because Snake4eva_92 recommended me to come here, thanks Snake ;)

I don't suppose Snake told you about myself (GodModeGOD) while he was at it did he? Welcome to TUGOWU

Anyway im really really stuck in the fire wall puzzle right before you get the pheonix egg in God Mode. I try to get rid of the fighters first after moving the pillar far ahead of me to give me plenty of room to fight in. The trouble starts with those pesky bat-like creatures though :x But yea i try parrying and all that stuff but alas its seems i am not good enough >_> :P

So you are on God Mode difficulty (Hard) in Normal Play (as opposed to Bonus Play) at the part you've described. I would like specifics about your HP/MP bar, weapons and spell upgrades. Also how much Health, Magic and Rage of the Titans you have at the moment. Note what you've been doing exactly to handle the waves of Hades Harpies and Hades Legionnaires. Things like what hits you the most and what you feel you are doing right/wrong. I can assist better with specifics.

If need be, I'll give a cheap suggestion for cheap/easy victory here. I'd rather you try your hand at a 'more fair' way past this part...but have nothing against the other way to deal with it.

You've noted that you've had trouble with the Harpies and you aren't particularly good with parries. What are you trying to parry precisely? Blocking genearlly is safer against harpies when your timing is bad. The 'harpy bomber' can't be blocked/parryed but can be evaded and negated *the latter of the two you aren't ready to learn if timing is an issue for you*.

finalfan789

Note in the future that I prefre a fair amount of details when I intend to assist another player as Snake could tell you from his own observations/experience.

~For now I'll be working on these videos I've got recorded..it has been awhile since I released any new material

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#2 theliar
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Kratos: Now smile as I carve my name on your face

~Just to participate..

Alucard_rules

Got the idea for that from Stewie amirite? lol.

But of course. It was the easiet 'quick fix' I could think up.

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#3 theliar
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If you can stilll get the Gift of EXP..that helps things. If you could get the Easter Egg too then leave the area..that would be excellent.

~I've finished recording the "Fight" method for the Spiked Floor/Nymph battle now as well so I have just Translator Wave 3 to work on now..a short slate finally..also I recorded that skip of the fire jets just prior to the Translator

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Not entirely but it will due. I prefer such things to be a little more detailed/specific. This alone won't show who is best really. The term "best" itself is questionable here. Shinobier beat the GoW1 God NUR+ clones when luck granted the chance to win and his skill plus our tactics/tricks saw him through..his determination keeping him going through 2 weeks of FAIL to reach EPIC WIN. Some would say that in of itself makes him the top player by default. *I don't feel that way*

I'll get to this after I record the GK:TM:NUR SoD Wave 3 Translator method I've been/will be working on. Today I've finally wrapped up the business I had on pause *Atlas Lift, Outside Palace andSpiked Floor Room* since being distracted in the craze that was the search for exploits (skips)..finding High Jumps in GoWII wasn't exactly a planned thing..so I haven't had an update in about a month.

~With new songs and recordings..I need to begin putting together videos to upload..right now I have to overlook the claims my father is making *to the insurance company* so he doesn't get himself arrested like a fool *stupid greed*...as surely as he is a victim..he is a criminal. At any rate, good to see you've replied.

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Not entirley sure what to suggest. It appears that the trick burns way too many EXP orbs and skips both big chances at getting a good deal back..the skip is great..but the cost is significant.

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#6 theliar
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Quite right
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#7 theliar
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What can one do when the popular attention is spent on the shiny and new (next/current gen)?

~Anyway...Vote so that we can lol at the results*rarely does victory over that fanbase seem so..within grasp*

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Alucard: It is to be expected. It is good you've gotten used to it..because now you won't be Mmzaking the errors I did when I first played through it..basically just going about it all wrong *whoring magic for instance*

Actually, I hadn't noted this fact (AotF+RotT). Too bad we only get to truely whore this in CotT4. We can use this in the Lahkesis boss fight and perhaps the Sisters of Fate fight *an exploit I've been testing concerning getting a counter-less usage of the AotF*. Thanks for bringing it up.

booyakasha: You shouldn't be letting the Priest summon help. He should be grabbed to death and used for MP orbs for blasting big groups with AQ. Wraiths should be tied up with CR and BoO should be used PERIOD. DR whoring between CR is great for Wraiths. DR up close takes Hades Minotaurs and Hades Fiends apart. I find that fight pretty easy and once you use the proper strategy..you will too..you could even find yourself enjoying it. I don't recall any timelimit for that Challenge..then again..I don't take too long there anyway.

The 9 Wraiths aren't a whole lot harder with lvl1 Hammer. lvl1 BoO is a NIGHTMARE to use for them w/o magic/RotT..give that a whirl.

COPYPASTA FROM SDA *myself speaking of course*

Using lessons from you guys, I was able to find and test a few new things while playing around in the Palace of the Fates.

1. In the Spike Floor room w/ Nymphs. Trying to go over the door you entered from while land you above the door where you can fall until dead while being stuck in air. (usage of Icarus Wings will allow an escape..you can also *if not fully stuck* get off with attacks).

I was able to use this as a place to avoid fighting the Nymphs but it was more trouble then it was worth.

Verdict: Not very useful.

2. After Skipping the cinematic as you get to the place where you later battle the Kraken, I was trying to skip the fire wall/jets (so getting the crank, turning the lever. etc. wouldn't be necessary. I eventaully met success thanks to getting a hang of shenminiu's Hammer only Infinite Jump.

At the Door of the Warrior *Entrance to the Underground*, facing the left corner. I used 2-3 lifts (air MotK) and stood on land just beneath the floor where you pull the lever *using the crank*. Quickly I leapt foward and flew towards the first solid piece of land past the fire jets which was that little area where there is an EXP chest. Upon landing I was pleased at the small success. It should save a few seconds and can be done in NP.

Verdict: Useful

3. I tried tricking the AI of the Translator of Lahkesis area with various things. Leaping over the door prior to the room where you crush scaffolding for the block, just leaving using RJWaters2's skip *even returning afterwards or using a skip that WITH the Ram key, allows for another, slower way past that door..I thought just returning to the area loaded would allow for a skip to the next section but if refuses to load witout at least getting that key* and even leaving during Wave 3 *the next area unloads once the wave fights load*.

I once put the Translator in a corner *in that room* and place the block in front of him so I could fight as I liked without worrying about him *though he isn't hard to defend in waves 1 and 2*

Verdict: Futile. We are c***blocked at everyturn.

~Now that I've gotten a hang of this trick, I'll be seeing what else there is of note throughout the game

I've haven't enjoyed a whole lot of success since..I peaked through a floor to the Auditorium of Atropos (2nd Translator) which would be a great skip..but couldn't get through. I can now skip the cinematic before the Phoenix/Ice Puzzle but I don't know how well usage of CR over it *to break the ice early* will be...will have to return later to test that.

I was able to (in the 'Underground' prior to the Phoenix Chamber) skip through a wall (where the 4 Cursed Archers who guard the ceiling are) and out another (next to the gap across from where the Gift of Magic is hidden) which if done perfectly..could be a tiny bit faster..perhaps not though. Justsomething to note though.

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#9 theliar
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MistryMan: Good to hear.

I'll try but I don't see it happening. Pity that the Infinite Jump can't be used there in NP as that would surely do the trick.

I've done that skip just once *took a while to get it down right*.

Indeed the tactics is a nice little extra when you can't/don't use swim glitch.

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#10 theliar
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As I figured. I can only suggest getting good with Typhon's Bane for Stage 2 (working with the BoO)..it keeps him fairly well under control while being cheap. Though you could use CR..I don't recall how difficult close range DR whoring can be. It is easy at a distance to maintain. Plus, saving most of the MP for CR in Stage 3 is desired. Stage 4 would just be RotT BoO as per usual then.

~The way things are set-up on GameSpot I guess..it has issues here and there. I can't EDIT a few of the longer posts I need to because of it..if I could..I'd update quite a few.