@uninspiredcup: That would be pretty awesome actually, Relic make some excellent RTS game (except for DoW3 which was meh). But their original Dawn of War games as well as Company of Heroes 1-3 (3 based on alpha seemed promising) were excellent.

Funny thing is, if I am not mistaken, Starcraft is actually a Warhammer 40k ripoff (lore wise, and ripoff is a strong word but cant think of something that conveys the idea better), or at least took a lot of inspiration from it. I believe Blizzard wanted to make a Warhammer RTS, but Gamesworkshop would not give them the license, so they made Warcraft instead. I would assume there is some idea taking in Starcraft as well (although I dont believe they bothered approaching gamesworkshop for starcraft after getting shutdown for Warcraft/Warhammer)

@hardwenzen:Wow you sound angry and jealous of FH5 for some reason. Judging a game (FH5) without having even played it. Then again somebody is angry that they are too broke to get a more than just a one system (in this case, a PS5). Hardcore broke fanboys are funny and sad lol.

Also FH5 is the arcade Forza line, while Forza 8 (whenever that comes out) is the more sim like, not really the same games. But guess someone who can't play Xbox or PC would not know about that.

@theam0g: Yeah lol this guy has probably not even played FH5 since he only has one system, and doesn't like racing games, but as soon as a PS exclusive game shows up he sings praises. Kind of sad and pathetic if you ask me. Always wondered why anyone would be a fanboy of any specific system to that high of a degree. I am guessing people trying to justify their purchases to themselves..

Anyway back on topic, game looks pretty excellent (both from a gameplay and graphics perspective) If my racing wheel was compatible with a Playstation, I would get it, but it's not so probably won't be getting it for now. I will say though the PC has the better racing sims, more realistic and better physics (Iracing, asseto corsa, and to a lesser extent, project cars 2, to name a few). But Forza and GT do come close enough (at least for people like myself who are more casual sim players and have non DD wheels).

@tjandmia: You would think but not really actually. At least if you have an ok or better racing wheel/setup such as the Logitech G920/Thrustmaster TMX/T150 and better. Granted these three are starter wheels but good enough imo, especially given that the truly great wheel (direct drive) can cost you around $1000 or more if I recall correctly. But even with those fairly budget wheels ($200 ish), you can still get a pretty nice experience. Quite a lot of fun playing racing games with those (more specifically more "proper" ones, rather than "arcady" ones). I usually have a blast playing Project Cars 2 in VR with a racing wheel, it is an awesome experience. But yeah I can also understand how one could find racing games boring.

@letshavefun:

Exactly, none of the games that fanboy gave (or next to none) actually run at 4k60 on the XSX, hell most current console games don't do native 4k60. Which is fine since they only cost $500 but it is completely disingenuous to say 4k60 when it really is not the case.

Forza runs at 30, FS run at 30, and Halo does not maintain 4k throughout.

And then you see this idiot trying to use another source (ign) to try and justify himself while at the same time a) ignoring the other points, and b) talking poorly of DF who actually specialize in this, while IGN do not. Kinda sad the level of straw grasping he is going to. Keep in mind too that the 2060 came up well before the XSX came out (and was a mod range card).

I feel like a lot of console only gamers don't realize that people use PCs for more than just gaming. It is or can be used for work and many other things. Everyone needs a PC, so if you will get one anyway, might as well spend the extra to get one that can actually game. Yes gaming PCs are more expensive, but there is a reason foe that (they are productivity machines, that can also outperform the consoles by a fairly significant margin). Bring in DLSS (which can give nearly equal or sometimes (rarely) even superior IQ to native, and it's a game changer). Now this is not to discount what the consoles can achieve, since for $500 they are pretty solid, but in no way do they compare to top end PCs, and it is also disingenuous to talk about the costs while discounting that they can be and are used for work. I have been working from home since pandemic started and having a gaming PC saved my *** (since it's far faster than my work laptop, hence improving my productivity).

Lastly, it is not that difficult to get a GPU (only slightly harder than console). If you follow restock trackers, can get within a month at msrp (got 2x 3070 fes one at launch and one later down line for a friend, plus a 3080ti for myself to upgrade 3070 a few months ago, with little effort, granted WFH helps).

But hey, fanboys like blaz will continue to be idiots.

I would go with the Xbox in this case. The Steamdeck, although cool, is more of a handheld, and since it is running Linux it may have its own problems. I recently watched an LTT video of them using Linux for gaming, and even with the (I believe proton) compatibility layer, there are still issues (especially with games that rely on some external anticheat).

Honestly though it is possible to get an RTX card at or close to msrp. I would suggest you sign up for Inventory Bot on Twitter as well as the hotstock app and wait to see when BB drops stock. Get a few GPUs bookmarked that you would want (fe is ideal but since those are non lhr they are sometimes tougher to get, evga is alternative since they have lower prices than other aibs) and just try your luck (all available rtx cards will drop at the same time). They tend to drop every two weeks. There is also an NS extension that helps with getting through que faster (getting better que times, since it's not first come first serve but random) but I no longer know whether it still works or not. BB is your best bet, Amazon is impossible due to all the bots on it.

@BassMan:

Thank you for that, yeah I remember reading/hearing that fiber is the way to go. Just was not sure whether the high price is worth it for me (as in if I would use it) but it would def be nice to be able to play some games from the couch rather than from the desk. Plus, as much as I like OLEDs, the one big downside (imo) is the lower peak brightness (my hisense can hit I think like 1600 -1900 nits while OLEDs are more in line with 800nits, granted the hisense has its own issues, namely blooming and not the greatest black uniformity, granted that's a problem with any VA) so it would be nice to be able to have that brightness sometimes.

Anyway thanks again will def consider, just need to convince myself that the price is justifiable lol

@BassMan:

Yeah I completely understand that. Before I replaced my Samsung CHG70 (which had issues such as vrr gamma flicker and imo meh IQ, even though on paper it's good) with the 48 C1, I used to have my PC also connected to my Hisense U8G. However I barely used it with my PC since it was just a pain to use that way (having to get up, choose app, its quite inconvenient). Plus couldn't do 120hz with it since long cable runs with Hdmi 2.1 don't seem to work particularly well or be particularly stable, so had to do 60hz, which isn't ideal). Anyway I understand why you mainly use your monitor.

@BassMan:

Man that does sound amazing. Perfect size too as a monitor. About time they started making some OLED monitors, and this being QD OLED, the potential for color volume, brightness and low black levels is amazing. Hoping this is a start of more coming. Had to get an OLED TV as a monitor since most monitors IQ wise are meh (except a few). The lg is good but a tad bit too large imo. Great for gaming/movies but not always ideal for productivity.

Only issue is I am guessing the first Gen of this product may have issues and early adopters will be guinea pigs/beta testers. Coupled with the fact that they will probably be extremely expensive (my guess is $2500 or even more). But a step in right direction anyway since LG WOLED has its own issues which QD OLED seems to solve.

@hardwenzen:

All I am hearing here are excuses and/or justifications without an understanding of underlying reasons.

You do not even have the option to properly play in quality mode then, you have to default to performance mode since you can't take proper advantage of quality mode. Second, not everything comes with the two modes now, nor is there any guarantee of it coming in the future. Hell I am guessing as the Gen goes on, many games will go back to just providing the one (default) choice. But regardless, essentially you are severely compromised on how you can use your console...surprising for a gfx wh***

Monitors do not have the greatest image quality (with some exceptions) compared to good TVs still. I know this since I am primarily a PC gamer and AV enthusiast. Most monitors do not even have local dimming (and some that do have a negligeable zone counts, like my old Samsung CHG70). And lol clearly you have never tried HDR with PC gaming, it works. Not as well as on consoles granted but the gap has closed. Have not had any issues on my end tbh with a 48 C1 that I use as a monitor. As for PPI argument, again grasping for straws and trying to make justifications on as to why you game on a monitor with a PS5...PPI is meaningless in isolation, have to take into account viewing distance as well. One sits much further away from a TV than from a monitor.

Last, using streamers as a justification still makes little sense. First, there are next to no big console streamers. Second, a streaming setup (camera placement, etc) is easier to do with desk and monitor. Third, they probably want to sit extra close to a screen because they play competitively (which is important for keeping subscribers). Regardless, you fit none of those, you do not play for a living and given its a PS5, there are tons of games that are SP only anyway. You probably don't stream, so you don't need to be at a desk.

Anyway again more bs justifications why you are on a monitor instead of a TV, without truly admitting the real reason...lying to us and even yourself. Then again, didn't expect much from a broke fanboy who just has one system and shi*s on all the other susyems.

@hardwenzen:

Reading comprehension is not your strength I see. I never stated it is sad to use a monitor when playing a console, I simply stated it is sad for (based on the posts of yours I have seen) someone who sounds like a gfx whore who makes fun of other systems and how "bad" games look on them, to not only use a PS5 on a 1440p monitor (not even taking proper advantage of PS5 capability, especially since the PS5 does not support 1440p), but also does not so HDR/proper HDR (there isn't a single 1440p monitor, outside the Samsung 49 Neo QLED G9 as far as I am aware, that can do HDR)

Furthermore, do not see how console streamers are relevant in this conversation. Not to mention the fact that there are very few of them (most streamers are on PC...)

@techhog89: Honestly I would have ignored him, clearly @hardwenzen is an idi** who does not understand how the technology works, nor has had the pleasure of gaming on an OLED. Hell, he plays a PS5 on a damn 1440p monitor, which is is sad for someone who seems to constantly tout the power of the PS5. Dude is just jealous that he can only has a PS5 and no other system.

Anyway, back on topic, yes there is a risk of burn-in, but it takes a long time and tends to happen in certain scenarios only (say only watching the news when you have the brightness set to 100%). If one simply varies the content, the risk of burn in (which itself is a misnomer) should not be a major issue during the lifetime of the product. The benefits of an OLED screen (colors, contrast, pure blacks) significantly outweight, imo, the risks (since sure even if it may burn in after say 15000 hours, that is the equivalent of using something daily for eight hours for over 5 years, which at this point, the new console, or new phone, or new TV is out so its time to upgrade anyway). The more pertinent question is, is the Switch OLED worth the extra $50. If you do not have a Switch yet and also intend to use it as both portable and docked, imo yes. However, if you already have a regular Switch, then imo the $350 to upgrade aint worth it.