Nintendo Switch is the only obvious answer for me. I don't need a ps4pro to enjoy future ps4 games. I need switch for that sweet Nintendo magic

@Juub1990: funny, I always thought that sales contribute to the relevance of a franchise. Lesser sales, lesser relevance, but I get your real point now

@Juub1990: gears is declining http://m.neogaf.com/showpost.php?p=220345081

while r&c is growing

http://m.neogaf.com/showthread.php?t=1213175

how does your logic work then?

@Juub1990:

""Difference between that and R&C is that Gears will stay relevant for years. R&C is already a distant memory."

Regarding this quote from you

@Juub1990: ratchet and clank ps4 was the fastest selling in the Franchise, while gears 4 was the worst selling main entry. Gears outsold r&c in uk, but one Franchise is growing while gears is declining. Get your facts straight

congrats to yourself. Majority of others disgagreed. The SP and MP were factually good and praised by fans and critics alike, regardless of your opinion. You debate with facts, not your opinion

You still don't get it. I recommend you to actually read the article. ND was busy with developing U4, they had to help blue point games to implent U2 and U3 MP in the game. Due to being busy, they decided against it and included the U4 MP Beta instead. Don't pretend like U2 MP wasn't praised by critics and fans alike. Just don't dude. They didn't remove it because of lack of interest, in the article itself he says that U2 and U3 servers are still being played, and they would've have shut the servers down, to upgrade it to the Nathan Drake collection

you wrong.

1. The lack of mp in the nathan drake collection got huge backlash, to the point that Naughty Dog had to respond and explain why it removed the MP

http://powerupgaming.co.uk/2015/09/26/naughty-dog-sheds-more-light-on-multiplayer-removal-from-uncharted-the-nathan-drake-collection/

2. Blue Point Games developed the title. Different devs entirely. ND was busy with U4 and decided to move on with implenting mp in the nathan drake collection

3. Look at the disaster with Halo MCC, I guess they wanted to avoid the same faith

4. Collecting 120 stars isn't really central to the gameplay. Once you defeat Bowser in the last stage, in the first run, the credits will roll. 120 Collecting is one of the first Major easter eggs in Gaming though:

You get congratulated by yoshi for finishing the game

5.120 collecting stars is literally the precursor of platinum trophies/archivements. You get rewarded with a text that you finished the game 100%

Disregarding all the japanese games just because they don't have replay value is ridiculous. Might as well disregard the majority of greatest games of all time. Some of the greatest games ever only last like 5 hours(snes) without any real purpose beyond campaign, tho you still reply out of fun.

@Juub1990: why are bringing up the remaster when we're talking about uncharted 4? I don't think you have valid point here to make. If you had, you would actually stay on topic instead of bringing up a game we're not even talking. No the main game of sm64 takes 9hours. Uncharted would be more than 20hours if you collect all treasures, notes in the campaign etc. You would take 10 hours more for platinum trophy, is the same logic as collecting all stars in sm64 according to your logic.

Truth is, you don't have good arguments in your favor.

@Juub1990: so games only count as games when they have replay value(funny that mlb, u4 have plenty replay value due to mp)?

Your argument is not really convincing here. Games are games, even if they don't have multiplayer. Super Mario 64 is one of the greatest games of all time, yet it takes 9-10 hours to beat