I have been wondering about this for awhile, how much do hard drives really effect gameplay? Obviously I understand they effect loading times but once the game or level is loaded does it even matter?

easy this http://www.directcanada.com/products/?sku=11130AC8843&vpn=RR-B10-212P-G1&manufacture=COOLERMASTER

used this on mine cut temps by 20C.

The directions are horrible on it though just look up how to do it on youtube.

I have pretty much the same core as choice 2 and I can say I am very happy with it. I game at 1080p and I think 1.5g is all you need for that I am not sure though maybe 3gb would help. pretty pricey though I did the converter and 16,000 ZAR is $2,000 USD, however it might benifit you where you live I am not sure. O and to answer your question about cpu and gpu...I have never seen anyone on these forums recomend the 2600k, the i5 2500k is all you need for gaming. The gpu is more important get the 580 if you can.

i have a 650w psu for my SC gtx 580 and my 2500k @ 4.3. Watts arent as important as getting a good single 12v rail that can deliver good amps.

3Dmark11 score

p7135

evga gtx 580 SC....2500k @ 4.3

I am putting in the hyper 212 tommorow and I am wondering how exactly to get the thermal paste off. Also do I need to take the cpu off of the mobo?

AHH! lol.... site is annoying and its hard building someone a comp cuz I feel so much is preference. All I am going to do for you is list my specs which fit in your range. And the system isnt noisy to me either.

i7 2600k ( because you said rendering and I think you might want this then instead of the i5)

Asrock extreme4 gen3(assuming they even offer it i dunno)

8gb Ripjaw G skill RAM

Any optical drive

PSU 650+ ( dont know how the site works PSU)

GTX 580

Case is watever they got.

after market cooler

I know you dont want to hear ppl tell you to build it but your gonna hear it anyways. I never even looked inside a computer before and was able to do it a couple weeks back. I can link you a video ( a couple actually from youtube) that go step by step and assemble each part. It is insanely easy to build a pc if you go slow and watch the videos. I would reccomend them over the sticky on here....way better than pictures. I wont say you will save tons of money from building yourself but you will save some and you willhave the peace of mind that some idiot who hates his job isnt rushing through the pc.

These are the vids http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lPIXAtNGGCwpart 1 of 3 awesome videos

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uUY0tP5jYIo 2 hour video walkthrough. really good

I will post below the pc I would get if you are intent on a premade.

you just gotta know that no matter what you have someone somewhere has something better. I just built a 2500k system with all this bulldozer talk going on and I dont care. By the way I OC that thing to 4.2 on stock cooling and havent gone above 67C on any game after gaming for hours. I was rattling my brain on what gpu to get. I started out at a gtx 560 ti thought about it and said **** it and got a 580.

I made a fan profile on afterburner and i cant figure this out. Do I need to have the program running, like minimized in order for it to control the fans? It seems like when I close the program out it doesnt automatically control my fans. However when I have it minimized it does it seems. Are you suppose to have msi up at all times or minimized for it to work or what? Or am I just an idiot.