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#1 twitchmonkey399
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[QUOTE="Theokhoth"][QUOTE="harashawn"] If anyone thinks they have been saved, they probably haven't. harashawn

That makes no sense.

How can you know you've been saved? Is praying and attending church enough? Is accepting Jesus as your Lord? Is trying to be a good person? Saying you have been saved is a sign of arrogance; according to the Bible, God doesn't like that. I try to follow Jesus' teachings, but do I think I'm going to Heaven? No.

I agree; to assume that one has already been saved and doesn't have to worry about anything is rather foolhardy.
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#2 twitchmonkey399
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One of the main tenets in mainstream Christianity today is that all humans are sinners, and every one of them is going to be punished for their sins in hell, and that the only way to avoid this fate is to accept Jesus Christ as your Lord and Savior and obey the commandments. This is colloquially referred to as "being saved". So no, you're not saved. :P

Anyway, I agree with the sentiment that you should just tell her no and let the chips fall where they may; as was said, if she can't accept that and leaves you, then your relationship is doomed anyway.

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The idea you present as mainstream in Christianity is, for the most part, accurate. But there is (and has been, for awhile now) an idea of only having to believe in Christ's work without the need of preforming their own works (obeying the ten commandments, for example) that has been steadily taking hold in various sects of Christianity. There are even entire religions that use this idea as their primary teaching. Just a tidbit for you. :)
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#3 twitchmonkey399
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The question is asking, essentially, are you a follower of Christ? So if you wanted to be truthful, you'd have to say no. I wouldn't know how the relationship would turn out, since I know next to nothing about her. You are the best judge of how she will react, considering you're the only one here who has a grasp on what kind of person she is.
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#4 twitchmonkey399
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[QUOTE="rawsavon"]That is not a reporter fail...he did not put the image therelightleggy
with "reporter" im talking about the program, not the guy

Then say "Reporting fail." It's much more accurate.
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#5 twitchmonkey399
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Manly.

Little house on the praire books. It's what Laura called her furture husband (not sure if she continued it into the marraige).

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Everyone, if you want to see the full video and not some anti-cop biased film cutting, look here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bVwXOKZh4Os

While it still doesn't paint a pretty picture for policemen, and is still biased, at least it puts the event in the proper context.

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[QUOTE="twitchmonkey399"][QUOTE="MystikFollower"]

Why do people keep thinking that. MrGeezer was making a point that I fully agree with. The author of that article has skewed the facts so much to be biased towards the girl that it almost removes all credibility. I'm not defending theft, and I don't think it was right for him to steal her bunny, but I can't make a true judgement on this considering I only have a skewed version of events that is making a point to make the man into a complete villain. Over zealous, yes, but heartless thief, that's up for debate.

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The bunny has been stolen by an overzealous animal rights activist. No matter how much baseless opinion is sandwiched between the few facts in the article, that we can know for sure. And that's all we need to hear to know that what was done was wrong. I always try to attach a good good motive to someone who does something that is perceived to wrong, and I am doing the same with this case. But no matter how good a motive I attach, the thief is still in the wrong. Period. That's the point dkrustyklown is making.

Well I can accept that point cause I agree that the theft was wrong as well. But that's not the point MrGeezer, myself, and others have been trying to make in this thread. The article itself is practically worthless so while I concede that the theft was wrong, I can't make any judgement about how "cruel" or "bad" this "heartless" thief really is.

I I'm aware of MrGeezer's, etc. point that the writer could have made the article into something favoring the thief nearly as easily as it made it favor the girl. The problem is, that's not entirely true. The article does provide some facts i.e. the stealing itself along with the note as well the girl's allegations (the girl's allegations being less important than the first two). From these facts alone we can conclude wrong doing. So the article isn't completely useless. Only the opinionated part is.

As I said before, I won't attempt to make a judgment on the thief's rational for committing the crime. So I agree with you there. And I think krustyklown would too, from what I've seen of his recent posts. But then again, I've only read his more recent posts, so I can't say this for sure. I will say both sides seem slightly confused on what the other's point is.

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#8 twitchmonkey399
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[QUOTE="dkrustyklown"]

[QUOTE="Pixel-Pirate"]

So....you'd seriously send your family to death to ensure you die honorably?

Are you a samurai, or something?

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So...you'd seriously violate another person's inherent right to his property just to save your life? Is your fear of death such that you would stoop to terrorizing other people just to stay alive? History condemns the legacy of those that do wrong to save their own skins, while history honors those that sacrifice themselves for what is right.

There is no uncertainty. Stealing is wrong. It is always wrong, no matter the circumstances. The concept of justified theft is an oxymoron. It is an inherent impossibility.

If violating his right to property costs him a $1 apple or something, and was necessary for my survival, hell yes. You would be stupid not to. Survival is survival, and there are no rules in the animal world. Also, stealing an apple woudn't be terrorizing them...

I'm not telling you to go steal stuff from the grocery store because you're hungry. I'm telling you that when one is left with no other choice than steal or die, most people will go with steal, and I'd bet my left nut even you would do so, dkrustyklown.

If the apple costed $1, I'm sure the guy who owns it would be glad to give it and more to help someone who is starving.
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#9 twitchmonkey399
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[QUOTE="dkrustyklown"]

[QUOTE="The_Gaming_Baby"]

lmao

stealing a little girls bunny. How do they not see they are the bad guys here.

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Yeah, yet we have several posters here trying to spin the situation into the little girl being the bad person and the thief being the good person.

Why do they have such difficulty understanding that stealing a little girl's bunny is a bad thing?

Why do people keep thinking that. MrGeezer was making a point that I fully agree with. The author of that article has skewed the facts so much to be biased towards the girl that it almost removes all credibility. I'm not defending theft, and I don't think it was right for him to steal her bunny, but I can't make a true judgement on this considering I only have a skewed version of events that is making a point to make the man into a complete villain. Over zealous, yes, but heartless thief, that's up for debate.

The bunny has been stolen by an overzealous animal rights activist. No matter how much baseless opinion is sandwiched between the few facts in the article, that we can know for sure. And that's all we need to hear to know that what was done was wrong. I always try to attach a good good motive to someone who does something that is perceived to wrong, and I am doing the same with this case. But no matter how good a motive I attach, the thief is still in the wrong. Period. That's the point dkrustyklown is making.
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#10 twitchmonkey399
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[QUOTE="dkrustyklown"]HerrJosefK
...Stealing is never, under any circumstances, justifiable? That's an absolute statement that would fall apart under scrutiny. I don't think he was "taking the word" of anyone, at least that's not the way I interpreted it; it was more of a commentary on journalism and what makes the work of journalists relevant or irrelevant. He seemed to be endorsing positive journalism (as opposed to normative journalism), and nothing more. Finally, and most importantly, we're talking about a damn bunny. Stop getting your panties in a bunch about inconsequential deviant behavior.

I don't think he was taking the word of anyone, either. But it did seem that he was giving equal footing to both sides, something still wrong for the same reasons krusty klown mentioned.