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#1 wiistation36000
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[QUOTE="yarou1000"] yes but comparatively health care is way cheaper in the UK and Canada than in the US because our doctors and hospitals are paid through the government, instead of being paid by the patient... i don't understand the doctors working in private hospitals; your profession is to help sick people, but you seem to only be doing it for the money. Money should never come in the way of a persons life, and i feel that every core country, except for the US has gotten this message, while the US is trying to make as much profit as possible off of their own citizen's injuries...yarou1000

When you figure in malpractice insurance, you start to sympathize with the docs.

I didn't say refuse healthcare to the needy. Unfortunately, most people don't think like you, so it won't work. That is not a reason to refuse health care to the needy because of their financial status. maybe people should realzie that doctors dont have the ability to look into the future and see which option was the best. They make the decision with what they thought was the best course of action, and tried their hardest. If your feelings are hurt from a loss of a loved one under the knife, that doesnt mean sue the guy holding the knife, so that he/she can never help anyone again.

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#2 wiistation36000
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[QUOTE="wiistation36000"][QUOTE="yarou1000"]or u could make health care free, like every other developed country in the world... sheeesh...yarou1000
Oh yeah that's a great idea. Let's all try that, don't pay for anything and it'll all work itself out! :)

no u do pay for your health care... it is just paid through ur taxes, and most likely cheaper than insurance not to mention adding it to taxes makes it a requirement not an option. It is something you are entitled to not, something you can have if you are rich. I also feels it results in a tighter feel of nationality... everybody is paying for each other, and everybody knows if they ever need a heart transplant, or a tumor removed, their fellow canadians have the covered. And it is a mutual feeling through out i would like to think...

How is it cheaper? You're directly paying for the actual operation through taxes. That's a good point, but I think I should be allowed to help other people out at my own discretion.
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[QUOTE="sSubZerOo"][QUOTE="yarou1000"]or u could make health care free, like every other developed country in the world... sheeesh...yarou1000
Health care arn't free in those countries.. They are paid through taxes.

yes but comparatively health care is way cheaper in the UK and Canada than in the US because our doctors and hospitals are paid through the government, instead of being paid by the patient... i don't understand the doctors working in private hospitals; your profession is to help sick people, but you seem to only be doing it for the money. Money should never come in the way of a persons life, and i feel that every core country, except for the US has gotten this message, while the US is trying to make as much profit as possible off of their own citizen's injuries...

When you figure in malpractice insurance, you start to sympathize with the docs.

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[QUOTE="wiistation36000"][QUOTE="Rocky32189"]So, basically you want him to tax the rich to pay for the healthcare of the poor. That's exactly what he wants to do.Rocky32189
I thought everyone paid taxes?

The amount you are taxed is based on your income level.

I know, what does that have to do with healthcare?
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So, basically you want him to tax the rich to pay for the healthcare of the poor. That's exactly what he wants to do.Rocky32189
I thought everyone paid taxes?
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or u could make health care free, like every other developed country in the world... sheeesh...yarou1000
Oh yeah that's a great idea. Let's all try that, don't pay for anything and it'll all work itself out! :)
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[QUOTE="Free_Marxet"][QUOTE="wiistation36000"][QUOTE="Free_Marxet"] if they did that, they could easily jsut jack the prices up. The prices our healthcare companies pick is largely arbitrary

Competition also needs to be encouraged, for instance, advertising out of state.

So then the majority of healthcare companies will decide on a general price, t he same way most business does now. They can buy up all the other smaller insurance companies to removal competition while leaving 4 or 5 companies around to avoid anti trust laws. Then thegovernment needs to send out more money than originally needed. All of this is just easier with single payer What you advocate gives no garuntee

If companies can do everything you just listed, then why haven't they? Also, I don't think a single-payer system would work, given the current state of the economy.
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That still doesn't help people who can't get health insurance because of pre-existing conditions.Tauruslink
Something special could be constructed for the ones with pre-existing conditions. After all, most americans are insured, so completely changing ALL of it is too much money spent.
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#9 wiistation36000
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Ok, this seems like a good idea to me, but I don't know what you guys think.

Instead of completely changing the health care system, why not just give every American a decent wad of cash that must be spent on health insurance per month. This way people would get the care they need, the insurance companies would prosper (sure, they're filthy rich as it is, but if it helps the people as well why not?), and not much* money would be spent in the end.

*Ok, that actually would come out to a hefty sum, but nothing compared to what they're proposing.

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if they did that, they could easily jsut jack the prices up. The prices our healthcare companies pick is largely arbitrary

Competition also needs to be encouraged, for instance, advertising out of state.
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This would not fix the numerous problems the system has including its increasing costs, the loopholes, as well as distasteful practices like the ones that relate to pre-existing conditions.sSubZerOo

But how does government run healthcare fix the rising costs and all the other problems?

Like I said, there are better options out there, but I think anything besides universal healthcare would work.