People with PS3s dying on them are either doing things they shouldn't do with them, not keeping the vents clean enough or not letting enough ventilation around them. All my PS3s and everyone I know have always kept their PS3s out in the complete open, never in a entertainment center where one side or the other is blocked with a door or anything else.

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Hopefully it is a game changer and by that I mean hopefully MS you start getting some exclusives again because it's looking more and more grim every year... Also keep in mind that the 360's miniscule lead would ne non existant if the PS3 had launched alongside it rather then a year later. Why do lems always forget the 360 had a year head start?

They may have taken out infinite spawning enemies, but they still had hordes of enemies. From memory, the "Defend Burger Town" mission where you had to go grab missile briefcases, and the mission where you had to defend that house from waves of infiltrators. I just don't like the experience of shooting a bunch of tin cans with autoaim on a lag delay. I want to shoot something with self preservation instincts and the objective of killing me, a human player. I think COD4 had better AI, but they still had a tendency to use groups of enemies instead of making them more effective to increase difficulty. Regarding your other post, yes, I realize most of the gaming world are noobs and that they are weaned on Call of Duty because they can't make it in Counter Strike, else they simply prefer easy mode games where they have a relaxing time. Notably, however, randomly exploding from giant bombs dropping on your face in a 50 square yard map is not relaxing.Brownesque

But I still enjoyed the overall experience and Black Ops looks to have improved on MW2 a lot. especially in the multiplayer portion.

As a side note my hype JUST died for this game. I just read somewhere else that the only co-op mode is zombies. And here I was hoping for a campaign co-op as well. That really sucks. Still going to buy it but that's a HUGE let down for me.

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[QUOTE="Brownesque"] I asked you to address one of my points, and instead you reduced everything I said, which was literally multiple paragraphs I shouldn't have wasted the time writing, to "COD SUX, EAT IT!" Are you SURE you're not trolling me? I don't see much discussion here on why Black Ops is so "badass," so why don't you start there and explain it to me. Is it Zombie Mcnamara? The wholesale lifting of entire gameplay mechanics from COD4? The fact that they're repealing some of the worst crimes against the gaming community from MW2? From deep posts like the one you've written in response to my essay on the subject, that's about the best I can get out of it. I came here looking for a discussion, not acceptance. Try arguing instead of whining. I'm not going anywhere.Brownesque

Read my edit please. And yes, that is basically what you said in your first few posts. I can easily go back and read what you wrote and I will. And no I wasn't trolling you. In what way was I trying to incite flame posts? please explain this too me. You internet folks throw around the term "trolling" WAY too loosely these days.

And while yes, you have every right to be in this thread, you came in here saying the series suck obviously trying to start a war. It was made even more obvious by your list of PC shooters. It was obviously an attempt to troll the thread. No I didn't/wont ever report you because, quite frankly, we're all adults here and should be able to act under our own supervision.

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KZ2 was ridiculously aimed for something the player don't want to experience , the gameplay was not what you could call "fun to play", the aiming and movement was not realistic at all, Im thankful they removed all of that crap in the KZ3 beta, they just need to put some recoil to the weapons and we are good to go.

COD is noob friendly as I said you can't balance that amount of weapons with their customizations and perks, to me MW2 was the most noob friendly COD.

point is regardless of what KZ2 was, there was something better in the core gunplay mechanics in COD and that's why more people like COD.

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Call of Duty is not realistic. Being able to magically materialize a knife in your hand in place of a rifle and jolt it directly into someone's chest in a lunge-arc is not realistic. Being able to tag someone after instantly bringing your weapon to a perfect parallel position with respect to your vision line is not realistic. Computer assisted aiming is not realistic. It is not realistic that a sniper rifle would have a larger range of bullet deviation when shooting from a hip than a submachine gun (e.g. giant crosshairs). Oh, and for the record, crosshairs and bullet deviation in and of themselves are not realistic representations of shooting from the hip, nor are they an intelligent model of it. Do you suppose, like game developers do, that when you fire a round out of a 20 inch barrel that it is going to shoot out of the muzzle at an angle 45 degrees relative to the barrel's axis? And what makes you think you can sight a weapon and shoot half a magazine at somebody while jumping off a building? Hopefully you'll agree that Call of Duty is not realistic.

And with regards to Halo....do I need to go there? Here's a hint, you can't magically have a grenade in your hand and automatically have it primed and ready to explode without pulling the pin.

If realism is your metric, then half the industry is kaputz. And don't talk about realism, because you clearly don't understand what qualifies as realism.

are you really serious? the core gunplay mechanics of COD ( COD4 and on ) are amongst the best of the best that's why it's addicting, put level up and perk system in other shooters and see if people can hold on to that game longer than COD lol.

recent examples, Medal of honor and Killzone 2.

putting new features for games was never the most important factor for great games, it's the core gameplay mechanics that lasts.

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The core gameplay mechanics of COD have always been weak.

The strong part of the series is the controls, they're effectively mapped.The limitation is the game is basically reducible down to circle strafing an opponent while tracking their position with the ironsights up and holding down the fire button. There's no recoil, no ballistics sim, the trajectories are straight and the bullets arrive instantaneously, like a laser. To balance the weapons they use a deviation cone mechanic which is artificial and controlled by random computations instead of the player. If the weapon is fully automatic, they increase the deviation cone, and so on. There's no complexity. Melee is literally pushing a button when you're within range. It's basic and there's nothing to it. I put maybe 3 hours into Call of Duty 2 online, and probably closer to 35 into Call of Duty 4, basically me trying to unlock all the weapons.

In the singleplayer game....good lord. They throw hordes and hordes of enemies at you to compensate for the terrible artificial intelligence. Higher difficulty modes result in more enemies and more damage taken. Even in the much-lauded sniper mission of COD4....the only strong point was the stealth aspect. The mission culminated in hordes of brainless enemies assaulting a hill, nothing surprising there.

Killzone 2 was poorly marketed, and the leveling system was poorly structured. No one wants to spend 20 hours grinding for a sniper rifle. The shooting mechanics were superior, but it was a bad experience, and not addicting so much as disappointing. Call of Duty asked you to grind for a +1 sniper rifle or a new toy. Killzone asked you to shoehorn into an assault trooper role before they let you take the role you wanted from the beginning. Killzone 3 is adding unlockable perks, and the editor from IGN didn't have enough positive things to say about it.

Medal of Honor was a disasterfest. Horrible multiplayer graphics, awful controls, terrible shooting mechanics; resulted in a hamfisted attempt to cash in on the Call of Duty brand without copying its essence.

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[QUOTE="Brownesque"]You're going to accuse me of being a troll while trolling me? What did you contribute to this thread? You didn't address a single point in my post, first of all.Brownesque

Read my edit please. And yes, that is basically what you said in your first few posts. I can easily go back and read what you wrote and I will. And no I wasn't trolling you. In what way was I trying to incite flame posts? please explain this too me. You internet folks throw around the term "trolling" WAY too loosely these days.

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Let me put it this way, as I say, I put well over 30 hours into COD4, about an hour into Killzone 2, about 3 hours into Medal of Honor, and about 3 hours into COD2's multiplayer.

The reason I played COD4 was to unlock stuff. Seriously. It was compulsive behavior, and it was bad. The rest of those games went back to the store, aside from COD2, which sits on my shelf because I bought it on PC.

Console games are not the only shooters, first of all. I like Counter Strike, Killing Floor, Red Orchestra, Dystopia Sourcemod, Insurgency Sourcemod, Battlefield 2, Project Reality's pretty good. I also like Unreal Tournament and Quake. Half Life 2 Deathmatch was a blast too when people actually played it. I think Halo 3 is actually a pretty good game. Halo 2 and Halo were great when they came out as far as couch multiplayer games. I don't really like their game design philosophy but I think they're much more entertaining experiences than Call of Duty, personally.

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You may as well just stop posting in here now.

EDIT:Sorry, it seems a lot of my post dissapear when I hit post:P

I had asked you what it was about the COD franchise you hated and the above post was your reply. How is anybody supposed to draw any conclusion from that other then what I said? They're not, I'm not even the only 1 who said it so...

If you hate it simply because it's really n00b friendly then you have to realise that's the games appeal for most people. One mans trash is another mans treasure.

Let me put it this way, as I say, I put well over 30 hours into COD4, about an hour into Killzone 2, about 3 hours into Medal of Honor, and about 3 hours into COD2's multiplayer.

The reason I played COD4 was to unlock stuff. Seriously. It was compulsive behavior, and it was bad. The rest of those games went back to the store, aside from COD2, which sits on my shelf because I bought it on PC.

Console games are not the only shooters, first of all. I like Counter Strike, Killing Floor, Red Orchestra, Dystopia Sourcemod, Insurgency Sourcemod, Battlefield 2, Project Reality's pretty good. I also like Unreal Tournament and Quake. Half Life 2 Deathmatch was a blast too when people actually played it. I think Halo 3 is actually a pretty good game. Halo 2 and Halo were great when they came out as far as couch multiplayer games. I don't really like their game design philosophy but I think they're much more entertaining experiences than Call of Duty, personally.

Brownesque

You may as well just stop posting in here now.

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are you really serious? the core gunplay mechanics of COD ( COD4 and on ) are amongst the best of the best that's why it's addicting, put level up and perk system in other shooters and see if people can hold on to that game longer than COD lol.

recent examples, Medal of honor and Killzone 2.

putting new features for games was never the most important factor for great games, it's the core gameplay mechanics that lasts.

HAZE-Unit

KZ2 was ridiculously aimed for something the player don't want to experience , the gameplay was not what you could call "fun to play", the aiming and movement was not realistic at all, Im thankful they removed all of that crap in the KZ3 beta, they just need to put some recoil to the weapons and we are good to go.

COD is noob friendly as I said you can't balance that amount of weapons with their customizations and perks, to me MW2 was the most noob friendly COD.

point is regardless of what KZ2 was, there was something better in the core gunplay mechanics in COD and that's why more people like COD.

I like both games in their own respects. Both are very different and fun in their own ways. You don't/didn't enjoy KZ2, that your opinion and I respect that too.

You should also add into the main post about Dead Ops. It's a top down camera zombie game like Zombie Apocolypse..

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[QUOTE="Bear_in_Action"] Dance Central? Playing a dancing game holding a controller when it can only detect your hand gesture does NOT count. And same as Yoga game. These games can be done, yes, but not freely.Bear_in_Action

If they bothered, they wouldn't even need Move for that dance game (just like the punching blocks game). PS Eye can detect all the movements and create an outline of a person just like kinect.

People often think something new when it's not.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U_RTaAQ9RNM

I rarely see people bashing Kinect(other then the lag and inability to see darker skinned people). I almsot always see people bashing it's games. It just doesn't work well with games. Little party games to get drunk and fall over would be fun here and there. But that's about it.