No. Nintendo fans need to know why people are not buying their beloved console. Those of us who gamed since before Nintendo and grew up with them are finished. The other poster is correct. Nintendo's exclusives lack diversity and, thusly, suck. No third party support when all of the most popular games, that are not pack in games, are third party is a system eliminator.

Oh, also, the only reason a lot of us come here is because these Wii U threads come up in the most recent list frequently. They're entertaining.

Opinion <> fact. Nintendo's games are not better. The third party exclusives aren't either.

Simply put, the $200 Limited Edition game has more value to more people than $200 for a Wii U. Even with games included. The Wii U actually IS THAT BAD. It's sad. :(

Oh well, my X1 is awesome!

There's a difference between paying $300 + the cost of games to play 2-3 titles, versus just the cost of the 2-3 titles. For the $200 that a refurbished Wii U costs from Nintendo, I can buy at least 6-7 full retail games for my X1, whenever my backlog decreases. This doesn't even account for Nintendo's software being vastly overpriced versus their quality. $60 for 10 hour platformers? GTFO.

You didn't. While it usually is true that someone who tries distraction or personal attacks has no more ammunition for a debate, in this case I was responding to "but then ive been gaming for 30 years. im not some stupid kid noob."

Basically, stating that you'd "take splatoon,mario, star fox, and smash bros over both your xbox and plasyation librarys put togther," shows that you are either trolling or clueless. I understand the clueless part, as I was shocked at the diverse plethora of games available on the X360 when I traded my Wii towards it.

However, I digress. Splatoon, "mario" (Seriously, name the title(s).), Star Fox (Isn't out, looks like a GC/Wii game.), and Super Smash Brothers are NOT better than Sunset Overdrive, Forza Horizon 2, Plants Vs. Zombies Garden Warfare, Child of Light, and the near infinite number of other high quality games available on the XBox One.

@blackace said:

The Cloud Tech was just the beginning. lol!! Where's my popcorn. This is going to get good. We just need El Tormo and GrenandeLicker now and this thread is ready to go. Let the Cows meltdowns and salty tears begin.

Lol. I read you post thinking that guy is watching your avatar. :D

Yes, and no. While I'd like my X1 to have a power bump, I don't think it's a big deal. The numbers quoted aren't possible anyway.

Awesome trolling!

8/10 would read again! :D

How about neither. I used to think I'd want a few Nintendo games on the X1, but now I don't care. For many of us older gamers, we've moved away from what Nintendo offers and we like what we see.

No doubt. Many of us have extensive backlogs due to impulse buying and/or getting into a new game and just playing it for seemingly forever. Asking for proof when gaming has become silly cheap isn't intelligent.