This thread brings to mind a quote from Ben Franklin:

"Those who are willing to sacrifice their basic liberties to assure their security deserve neither."

Rekunta

Like others have said, killing for someone's personal beliefs isn't exactly a good idea.

You just need to realize that you can't do anything about it and just leave it alone. They are doing themselves no good being racist.

RunnersNation

You are as much of a bigot as they are.

flordeceres

[QUOTE="zombiefruit"]One more reply before I go to bed. After reviewing my stance, I belive that you are right and I am wrong, SubZero. While a society without racists would be wonderful, my ideas of its enforcement were childish. There is too much open to interpretation, too many grey zones, nothing is cut and dry. I do not think that a society as I imagined would be possible, certainly not in our lifetime. I sill think human rights could be improved, and I still think that some speech should be prohibited but I agree with you for the main part. Scoob64

I also wish that racism wasn't so much of a problem... but yeah, zeal must be accompanied with an equal amount of wisdom... I think we're all guilty of being overly zealous in particular causes/stances.

[QUOTE="Scoob64"]

[QUOTE="zombiefruit"] You have such an ignorant viewpoint. You think you are superior to others. You put yourself first. How selfish. And I am not some crazy murderer who just wants people dead. My ideals are not malevolent. I care more about my species than most people, and that is why I hate racists so much. They actively harm humanity. Do I agree in free speech and criticism of the government? Of course, but I don't agree in free speech that creates hatred for a terrible and illogical reason like skin colour. I like being criticized because I learn about the mistakes I've made, and it shows me that my extrme views in some things are wrong.sSubZerOo

Listen dude, people should have the right to believe and think whatever they choose... basically, you want the government to crack down on what certain people are allowed to believe and think??? Crime should be punished, not ideas... By you saying people should be convicted and killed for a belief, you are no better than a racist.

I agree, racism is wrong... but trying to dictate and enforce what people are allowed to think and say is no better... crime should be punished, not opinions.

[QUOTE="zombiefruit"][QUOTE="sSubZerOo"] That murderer should be jailed, the person is clearly not capable of being in public.. And if that racist is making my life terrible legally, than do it.. The point being is you have to take the bad with the good.. If we try to take some kinds of things we hate, we will only created another kind of tyranny.sSubZerOo

[QUOTE="zombiefruit"][QUOTE="sSubZerOo"] And that is just a handful of them.. Some were just as bad if not far worse as the mentioned ones, such as the Plague in Europe which some areas saw upwards to a 60% fatality rating.. Or what scientists believe that some mega natural dieaster occured tens of thousands of years ago, that wiped out the vast majority of people on the planet leaving a small amount left.. At least thats what they believe from they have found with human genes. People seem not to realize how insignificant we are, how vunerable we are.. We could be dead right now and not even know it, we could have a gamma blast wave coming at us this very second that will destroy our atmosphere.. And we couldn't do anything about it.sSubZerOo

[QUOTE="zombiefruit"][QUOTE="sSubZerOo"] Yes we do, man has done it sense the beginning of time.. That being said in the United States we have the freedom of speech clause.. Not to mention the right to life.. sSubZerOo

[QUOTE="zombiefruit"][QUOTE="enterawesome"]Why does God allow us to live any further? We're just beating a dead horse, the horse being ourselves. As far as morality goes, you don't kill people over ideas, unless they are taken to an extreme which directly harms other people.sSubZerOo