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#1 zombiefruit
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[QUOTE="Pirate700"]

[QUOTE="zombiefruit"] No, the problem is you're just repeating what you were told as a child without really thinking about it. Why should people be allowed to believe in things that damage the unity of our species? jer_1

Because that is the beauty OF the species. Having free thought. :|

Bingo, freedom should be protected above all else, IMO. Thinking that you can destroy and remove just will not work. Look at the war on "terrorism" and how well that's going. Every person we kill over there spawns many more "terrorists" and it feeds itself. Education is really the only real answer to this topic, not killing a whole massive portion of the population.

I agree, and I actually realized that a while ago. Then I forgot it, made this topic and remembered it again. I was wrong about killing/removing racists. I was WRONG. But I do think we should separate children from their parents in order to create a new unbiased and logical culture.
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#2 zombiefruit
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[QUOTE="zombiefruit"][QUOTE="Pirate700"]One's beliefs don't benefit mankind any more than this thread does. People can believe what they want.

Pirate700

No, the problem is you're just repeating what you were told as a child without really thinking about it. Why should people be allowed to believe in things that damage the unity of our species?

How do you know what their parents told them as a child?

Did I say parents? No. You are taught repeatedly that everyone has the right to their own beliefs as a child growing up. But you never actually think about the implications and logical fallacies that inhabit an idea like that.
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#3 zombiefruit
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[QUOTE="zombiefruit"][QUOTE="Pirate700"]One's beliefs don't benefit mankind any more than this thread does. People can believe what they want.

Theokhoth

No, the problem is you're just repeating what you were told as a child without really thinking about it. Why should people be allowed to believe in things that damage the unity of our species?

But killing them or forcing them to believe in things they don't is just perfect for "the unity of our species."

Once again, while I understand what you are saying, you are looking at the small picture. The big picture is that humanity would benefit with the eradication of racism. And before any starts about the contrived notion of "human nature", I advise them to look up feral children. We are what we are surrounded by, be it good or bad.
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#4 zombiefruit
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[QUOTE="zombiefruit"][QUOTE="Theokhoth"]

They are allowed to live because whether you can fathom this idea or not: they are human, and entitled to the same rights as any other human.

Theokhoth

Genetically human, but why do we allow them to raise children, children that aren't born racist, but raised racist, that will eventually do the same to their own children and enable the cycle to continue. And I don't want to necessarily kill them, just remove them be it by exile, etc.

Because human rights entail the right to raise children and the right to live peacefully.

You want to get rid of racists? Improve the education system.

But you can't improve an education system that begins at age 4. A child's basic believes and personality are firmly implemented by age 5, (google it) and by that time it's too late for the school system. The best thing would be to take children at birth, and raise them in a unbiased and fair educational atmosphere. There is too much external stimulation when a child goes home every day and spends time with their genetic parents. And human rights are a new concept, only conceived recently. They are not logical, nor are they the final "Evolution" of human rights.
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#5 zombiefruit
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[QUOTE="zombiefruit"][QUOTE="Pirate700"]Who says it harms mankind? That's itself is just your opinion.

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Name a way that racism benefits mankind. You can't? Oh course. Because I'm RIGHT.

One's beliefs don't benefit mankind any more than this thread does. People can believe what they want.

No, the problem is you're just repeating what you were told as a child without really thinking about it. Why should people be allowed to believe in things that damage the unity of our species?
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#6 zombiefruit
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[QUOTE="zombiefruit"][QUOTE="Theokhoth"]

Funny, so did every dictator that ever lived.

You aren't thinking of individuals. You are grouping racists into a single collective.

Theokhoth

Of course there are different degrees of racism, and obviously you could not prosecute all racists, but this is mostly regarding the hardcore racists, skinheads, black panthers etc. Watch Louis -something- for the BBC in his skinhead episode on youtube and you'll know what I mean.

They are allowed to live because whether you can fathom this idea or not: they are human, and entitled to the same rights as any other human.

Genetically human, but why do we allow them to raise children, children that aren't born racist, but raised racist, that will eventually do the same to their own children and enable the cycle to continue. And I don't want to necessarily kill them, just remove them be it by exile, etc.
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#7 zombiefruit
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[QUOTE="zombiefruit"][QUOTE="Pirate700"]

Why do we allow people to tread on other people's beliefs?

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Why do we allow people to foster beliefs that harm mankind?

Who says it harms mankind? That's itself is just your opinion.

Name a way that racism benefits mankind. You can't? Oh course. Because I'm RIGHT.
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#8 zombiefruit
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[QUOTE="zombiefruit"][QUOTE="Theokhoth"]

Well, seeing as you're currently promoting a belief that would harm mankind ("Racists should be killed/sterilized"), then we can safely disregard it. :)

Theokhoth

No, it benefits mankind as a whole. I disregard individuals when considering the future of mankind. It's like planning the position of each grain of sand while building a sand castle, instead of looking at the big picture.

Funny, so did every dictator that ever lived.

You aren't thinking of individuals. You are grouping racists into a single collective.

Of course there are different degrees of racism, and obviously you could not prosecute all racists, but this is mostly regarding the hardcore racists, skinheads, black panthers etc. Watch Louis -something- for the BBC in his skinhead episode on youtube and you'll know what I mean.
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#9 zombiefruit
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Why is this thread posted?

Lilyanne46
I am using the right that you defend.

Freedom of speech and opinion is every persons right as a human being, but it is up to us as parents to guide our children in the right direction, thus away from ignorance and prejudice...

jazzkrotch
But what if the parent leads their children towards the same path that they themselves took, even if the parents were racist?
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#10 zombiefruit
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[QUOTE="zombiefruit"][QUOTE="Pirate700"]

Why do we allow people to tread on other people's beliefs?

Theokhoth

Why do we allow people to foster beliefs that harm mankind?

Well, seeing as you're currently promoting a belief that would harm mankind ("Racists should be killed/sterilized"), then we can safely disregard it. :)

No, it benefits mankind as a whole. I disregard individuals when considering the future of mankind. It's like planning the position of each grain of sand while building a sand castle, instead of looking at the big picture.