[QUOTE="zomgwtfbbqlol1"]also the cell has 8 SPEs, and like u said one is in use for the OS, so dosnt that leave 7?AnnoyedDragon

1 for OS, 1 disabled for production yields, 6 for game work.

[QUOTE="killzowned24"]

Download this video it shows the whole demo and the last cutscene:)

http://www.n4g.com/ClickOut.aspx?ObjID=188638

Episode_Eve

Just finished d/l it :D.

oh btw guy who said a game on the ps3 uses 7 spes...u obviously know nothing because one spe is DEDICATED to the ps3's os and it can not be used by a game leaving only 6 to the game.LibertySaint

[QUOTE="AnnoyedDragon"][QUOTE="A-LEGEND"]

All of you are so Stupid sometimes. you spout crap you dont understand because you "heard" it from somewhere else. "if a game uses all 7 spes" as if you know what the hell your talking about or even know what SPEs are. The facts of the matter are that the 360 has a more powerful GPU, and the PS3 has a more powerful CPU which when applied to gaming actually very much sucks. In plainly frank terms. the CELL SUCKS FOR GAMING and thats it.

LibertySaint

Specialised processors, number crunchers, vector processing units. Whatever people want to call them they are just processors that can only do specific types of calculations; which they do better than a general purpose CPU. Calculations which are then sent to the general purpose core; that is responsible for managing the SPE's and doing something useful with the information they send it.

In short creating a processor that vastly outperforms standard CPUs in certain tasks; and falls over itself in others. Some PS3 users think Cell is powerful overall, they don't realize it only excels in certain specialist work while multicore processors do better in others. PS3 kicks the 360s butt in physics work while 360 would dominate in AI, it all depends on the work being done and which is more suited to which processor type.

To be frank I'd be surprised if any developer can get all of them working hard, calculations require memory and PS3 only has as much memory as 360. If you are going to perform additional calculations to raise a PS3 game above 360 visuals, where do you get the additional resources to do that? They are already maxed out to bring a game up to 360 level before utilising the SPEs.

Something tells me this is relevant to MGS4 level size.

Theoretically you can use Cell to do additional shader work, pushing PS3 shader detail above 360, but Cell cannot work on its own and needs the other components to have the resources available to do that shader work.

[QUOTE="zomgwtfbbqlol1"][QUOTE="killzowned24"]

Download this video it shows the whole demo and the last cutscene:)

http://www.n4g.com/ClickOut.aspx?ObjID=188638

killzowned24

Here- http://tv.multiplayer.it/3195/killzone-2-filmato-11-videoanteprima-gc-2008

but the download is HD.

[QUOTE="zomgwtfbbqlol1"][QUOTE="AvIdGaMeR444"]

I'm not talking about games Sony owns the rights to. I'm talking about cows saying that the graphics for a game are so great on the PS3 that it is impossible for it to be done on 360. You actually believe this? :lol: This when 360 has been proven over and over to have the best looking multiplats (for the most part...there are a couple of exceptions). "But, but, but teh Uncharted!" Yes, cows...I'm certain even that beauty of a game could be done on 360.

Just face it cows...even though PS3 released a year after 360, graphical superiority has not been proven with PS3. Excluding Wii and PS3, all other consoles in history that have released a year or more after the competition have ALWAYS produced better graphics (no, I'm not counting silly add-ons like SegaCD, 32x...I mean actual consoles). But not with teh PS3. :lol: I'm really not even counting Wii, because Nintendo didn't try to have a graphical powerhouse. Sony did...

A-LEGEND

but all that aside PS3 is more powerful so it will have things that can only be done on it, example if a game uses 7 SPEs of the cell it clearly cant be done on the 360...

All of you are so Stupid sometimes. you spout crap you dont understand because you "heard" it from somewhere else. "if a game uses all 7 spes" as if you know what the hell your talking about or even know what SPEs are. The facts of the matter are that the 360 has a more powerful GPU, and the PS3 has a more powerful CPU which when applied to gaming actually very much sucks. In plainly frank terms. the CELL SUCKS FOR GAMING and is amazing on PAPER. its like your all religious nut jobs that worshipththe PS3.

There is no hidden power, There is no superiority, The cell does ZERO for graphics and there is no problems other than the ones you make up such as "MGS4s, "complex" environments". what complex anything? what has ever been on the PS3 that has been complex? the way the walls in PDZ are textured is complex. The way the PS3 is riddled with low res textures because the GPU cant render them is NOT.

also to ur last comment UT3 had amazing textures, and Wardevil also has amazing textures on PS3

and please dont generalize me and fanboys.

Download this video it shows the whole demo and the last cutscene:)

http://www.n4g.com/ClickOut.aspx?ObjID=188638

killzowned24

[QUOTE="zomgwtfbbqlol1"][QUOTE="blitzkid1"]

[QUOTE="zomgwtfbbqlol1"][QUOTE="blitzkid1"]By the time Killzone 2 comes out there will be better multiplayer games , Gears Of War 2, Far Cry 2, Resistance 2. Standards will change.Zeppy007

So what game won goty 2006 ?

EDIT: also gears had what compition? PS2 games and a few PS3? RFOM? lol

If you actually played Gears on youd notice that the graphics are better,more executions,match-makeing,more-abilties like crawling when downed picking up meat sheildes better and improved multiplayer modes.

so dont look at on screen shot and say it hasent changed.I could say kill zone 2 just has better grapics I know its not true but I could just say that

cool, cool...but old info....and can u wait the 6 or so months? i can't so please stop hyping it and reminding me lol.LibertySaint

I'm not talking about games Sony owns the rights to. I'm talking about cows saying that the graphics for a game are so great on the PS3 that it is impossible for it to be done on 360. You actually believe this? :lol: This when 360 has been proven over and over to have the best looking multiplats (for the most part...there are a couple of exceptions). "But, but, but teh Uncharted!" Yes, cows...I'm certain even that beauty of a game could be done on 360.

Just face it cows...even though PS3 released a year after 360, graphical superiority has not been proven with PS3. Excluding Wii and PS3, all other consoles in history that have released a year or more after the competition have ALWAYS produced better graphics (no, I'm not counting silly add-ons like SegaCD, 32x...I mean actual consoles). But not with teh PS3. :lol: I'm really not even counting Wii, because Nintendo didn't try to have a graphical powerhouse. Sony did...

AvIdGaMeR444

but all that aside PS3 is more powerful so it will have things that can only be done on it, example if a game uses 7 SPEs of the cell it clearly cant be done on the 360...