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X1 is 40% less powerful, has nothing but Forza/Halo/Gears spam as exclusives and this pos is sold for $350? Should $199.99 tops, its not even an next gen console but xbox 360 1.5.

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If you can show me a game that is 40% better looking/playing on the PS4, I will concede. The only differences that have EVER been pointed out are on static images, side-by-side, with commentary telling me what to look for. Even then we are hard pressed finding a difference between the two. Researchers call that a Placebo...

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@codju If I am paying the same price for a product as the competition but mine has slightly less quality then I would feel duped no matter how small the difference.

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Why would you feel duped. XO is capable of 1080p, just as the PS4. The only difference is you do not have to perform development acrobatics to pull it off on the PS4. This will all change as we see games that were made using new tools Microsoft is providing to make development less acrobatic. Instead of focusing on 1080P, we should be focusing on what developers are sacrificing to get it. 900p is still betterbettn last gen, and I will continue to use that as the benchmark for both consoles

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@silversix_ No that's the Wii U and even that's got enough power to deliver any gaming experience you could want. All the PS4 does is the same at higher res/more bells etc.

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You are pathetic 40%, way off are you old enough to play games? Own every console or keep your mouth closed...thanks from all of us who like games on all systems a true Gamer :)

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@silversix_ 40% less? What are you smoking? Ryse from launch still looks better than anything else out there. That's not including modded support on PC.

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@silversix_ LOL!! No. Quantum Break, Horizon 2, Tomb Raider, Sunset Overdrive. KI2, Ori and the Blind Forest, Fable Legends, Crackdown and more new IP's coming. It definitely a next gen consoles Quantum Break proves that hands down. You have no clue what Next-Gen even means. Has nothing to do with hardware specs at all. You must have been born in the last 25 yrs.

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@blackace @silversix_ lol quantum break is a generic dudebro shooter. Also wii and pc have much better exclusive games, ignorant fanboy.

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@blackace Tomb Raider is not exclusive. Horizon is not a bestseller. You're full of sh it.

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are clueless. The only nect gen games toy listed were quantum break and tomb raider, neither of which will be exclusive. QBwill be on pc in no time and tomb raider will be multiplatform soon. Forza horizon 2, give over!

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@blackace @silversix_ You're right...except for that last 25 years bit. I was born just over 25 years ago, and I understand the value in gaming, unlike that other jerk.

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@silversix_ Xbox 540?

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Does anyone actually still think gamespot is credible in the already suspect world of "gaming journalism"? Do their opinions actually inform the decisions of anyone who is actually a gaming hobbyist?

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@Kallale - to be fair, they were spot on with Bayonetta 2

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@Jdzspace @Kallale They were actually way off.

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Hey Gamespot,


can we make a deal? right here and now. If, and let's just say IF. We go through November, and December. In which Microsoft will be available in the same number of territories as Sony PLUS China. AND gets this MAJOR price drop.


If despite all that, when we see the numbers that first week of December and January, and Sony STILL outsold them not only domestically, but worldwide.


will you PLEASE stop making articles talking about "can it finally beat the PS4"?


can we just lay down our arms, admit that the die is cast and Microsoft will be a tertiary console after Sony and NIntendo?


is that fair?

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@Jdzspace It's only in third place for now. The Xbox One is only 1.3 units behind the Wii U, which has been out for a full year longer, is cheaper, and more rooted exclusive franchises. The Xbox One won't catch the PS4 anytime soon in sales, that boat has sailed, but it's been tripling the Wii U for the past couple weeks I've observed. And it doesn't quite need to match the PS4. It's selling well, gaining exclusives (timed and not), and it's a whole new console from where it was last year for the better. This is why they still do these articles.

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@Jdzspace Did they do that with the PS3? LMAO!!

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@blackace @Jdzspace The PS3 had a higher sales rate than the Xbox 360 for the majority of last generation, including the first year that it released. You're confusing a year headstart on the market with releasing at the same time and selling half as well. There's a big difference, and there's no valid comparison there.

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@Jdzspace to sweeten the deal tell them we promise to click on 3 random articles a day so their clicks don't plummet!

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@RobDev @Jdzspace - maybe if they made an article or 2 about how dominant NIntendo's lineup is going to be moving forward. and how they are solidifying their #2 spot despite the slow start.


i would click the hell out of that article.


can you imagine, an article about a console doing good because of great games and generations of know how.


instead of the constant begging and pandering by Microsoft?


at least pretend to care about gaming in general, not just corporate sponsors

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stop, please. just stop. is this even a question? Sony has outsold Microsoft by 40% worldwide at this point.


no, them dropping the price for the holidays isn't going to beat Sony. give me a break.


just stop this nonsense, it's over. just let it go, Sony has a HUGE lead. they aren't going to turn it around in the next 3, it's just not going to happen

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@Jdzspace The XBox 360 was doing the same thing to the PS3 last gen. They had about the same lead. lol!!

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@blackace @Jdzspace The Xbox 360 released a year before the PS3 and went on to sell worse than the PS3 for its second year on the market. Bad analogy. People keep trying to compare this generation to last generation. There's not a valid comparison there in terms of sales.

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@Jdzspace It's almost definitely more than 40%. 40% was the lowest possible amount on the scale. 100% was the highest possible amount. It's likely around 70% to 80%, but I don't doubt that it could be 100%. The last known numbers are 10 million sold through to consumers for Sony and 5 million sold to retailers for Microsoft (though they retracted the statement). I don't think anyone who knows better honestly believes the gap is only 40%. That would be a huge come back for Microsoft, and I really doubt Microsoft would be silent about it. They wouldn't still be getting beat in the NPD either.

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@Jdzspace I thought Sony was, in the least, up 2 - 1. That would make it +100% and higher.

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@Vexov @Jdzspace - I read a report that it's 40%. that seems more realistic.


but it was just a report, we don't have the hard numbers just yet

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@Jdzspace @Vexov The report stated between 40% and 100%. 40% was the best case scenario for Microsoft. 100% was the best case scenario for Sony. I'd error in favor of Sony given past information on the subject.

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@Jdzspace @Vexov Ya, that Xbox keeps hiding its sales figures. The only thing we hear about is systems shipped, which is 1/2 of what Sony is actually selling.

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@Vexov @Jdzspace - who knows? maybe that is the truth of it. I feel like Microsoft will never tell us . better to have everyone assume they are getting dominated than to remove all doubt


I mean, if you think about it. Most people assume that Sony is destroying Microsoft.


what if it turns out, that Nintendo is also destroying Microsoft? if you release definitive numbers, and it shows NIntendo still ahead by a nice margin.


that would be....unpleasant for them

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@Jdzspace @Vexov and to me that actually makes it worse... what theyre imaging in their own minds is probably far worse than the reality of that news will have or maybe theyve assumed we gamers have a hive mentality and well gravitate to where everyone else is at like ps2 and totally unlearn the lessons of sony with the ps3... which is make the games good and they will come.

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The price drop will get people who have been wanting an xone to commit but people are not going to change over. $50 does not get me more horsepower or the games I chose my console for in the first place. The funniest part about this...Gamespot: stop the console wars. Gamespot: cant wait to see what happens if one out sells the other.....Who CARES! even if they do it is one out of 12 months and it does not change a thing for the owners of either system. Unless it somehow makes games better? my god, move on to the games.

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Next week im going to buy a PS4, despite X1 is now cheaper.

Reason:

It has a bigger community.

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@techs3ek Xbox community is huge. You realize there are still over 75 million XBox 360 owners who haven't made a decision yet right? lol!!

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@blackace @techs3ek While I'm sure many of them will eventually buy a Xbox One, others will buy a PS4 instead. We know that many PS4 owners were former Xbox owners last generation (about 30% according to polls and information that Sony themselves released). I don't see Microsoft hitting any where near 75 million consoles sold though. I predict 30-40 million. We'll see what happens, but I'm pretty sure the gap will get worse before it gets better. If the sales gap doesn't change soon, we'll see some smaller AAA developers making PS4 exclusives. Once that starts happening I'm afraid it'll be a slippery slope. I could obviously be wrong, but this big of a sales gap usually gets worse.

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X1 has more and better games. And a huge comunity. Dont get your rationale

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@Aleperez75 Some people buy consoles for the games that will release over the entire generation. Maybe he likes Sony exclusives more? Nothing wrong with that. Also, "better games" is a completely subjective argument. Let's not go there.

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@Aleperez75 - Microsoft has no games that are better. all it has, is all the 360 had, it has Halo.


and that isn't enough, not for a real gamer

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@Aleperez75 the games opinion is subjective. the community one is just a fact, a significantly larger install base where the 3rd party cross plat games perform better. 3rd party will be 90% of what people get. his rationale seems sound.

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@techs3ek and youll make it bigger... see how that works?

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Microsoft clearly has the best console but they failed to make a good first impression. It turned gamers off. Microsoft can make a comeback but it will be no easy task. Microsoft has the best exclusives and XBL is still superior than PSN.

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@tommynj Why make comments like this? X1 absolutely does not have better exclusives(see how that works), never has. Online better? it was on the 360. It is a weaker system. WHO CARES.

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@tommynj everything youve stated as fact is in fact an opinion... your opinion and nothing more... stating that over and over again isnt going to change that but feel free to.

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The surprise price cut on top of attractive bundles and an exclusive software lineup that makes Sony's look pathetic by comparison could definitely put the Xbox One over the PS4 this holiday season. I don't see Sony making a move on this since their console is still #1 worldwide in sales--and I expect that to continue in the long run, even if Microsoft does take this holiday, but I think Microsoft is definitely going to win big because of this.

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MS:" Freeeee Game!!!! "

Sony: " Ummm OK? "

MS: " Price Cut!! "

Sony:" Umm OK? "

MS: " Why can't I beat you?! "


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@RainIsMyDrug I honestly think it's the PR nightmare that M$ is still trying to overcome and Sony was riding hard on that as the "White Knight" that saved video game.

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@RainIsMyDrug overtly simplistic but yeah im sure ms are scratching their heads... sony too. sony even admitted as much... but sometimes you dont look the gift horse in the mouth.

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@leviathanwing @RainIsMyDrug

All joke aside... Wouldn't MS be losing even more money with all the price cut and free game?

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@RainIsMyDrug actually their hardware is finally at break even pricing or thereabouts while sony is making a small-ish profit im just going by what their hardware would cost at going prices. of course they can get them at far better prices than what we individual consumers can get them for but im assuming that they both get those same prices and we know that xbox must cost less to make because its got weaker guts so to speak.

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@leviathanwing @RainIsMyDrug It's actually a bit more expensive because of the eSRAM in the teardowns that different tech sites performed.

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