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@Adam802 a whole lot if not all of your reasoning is opinion and you are wrong about power difference its rather easy to put down in numbers the difference... you can do math so its as easy as multiplying 320 x 180... heads up thats a big number. and that is just resolution difference now throw in shaders and bandwidth and youve got a pretty big gap in terms of raw horsepower so denying it seems rather delusional at this point. as for the ps3 catching up the the 360... that was mostly because for a whole year xbox was the only game in town so it didnt need to race anybody to a 'finish line' it just strolled along until it had a competitor,a competitor which ultimately beat it in the end i might add.

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@leviathanwing @Adam802 that's dumb.

so you think xbox one IS at its core 900p (i bet you don't even know what p stands for. heck, maybe even the numbers), and ps4 is 1080p. let's just ignore everything wrong with that and assume that is true (it isn't, both forzas run at 1080p for instance, and battlefield 4 runs at 900p on the ps4). let's talk about your maths.

you think the difference in the number of pixels from 1600x900 to 1920x1080 is just 57600 pixels (among over two million, which would be about 2,7%)?

heck no. the actual difference is 633600 pixels, over ten times as much as what you suggested at 31,6% less pixels.


about the memory bandwidth, it's a bit complicated, xbox one has shitty base memory bandwidth, a third of the ps4's, but it has that ESRAM deal going on that can kind of offset it a bit in some situations. do not expect miracles though. xone is going to run on memory bandwidth bottlenecks a lot more often than the ps4.


then there's the peak shader performance, which is roughly 33% lesser in the xone compared to the ps4.

which is why on multi platform games that target the ps4 (honestly, pretty much all of them, just like the xbox 360 was the target last gen), the easiest way to make sure the game runs at a similar frame rate on the xone is to lower the resolution (and consequently, the number of pixels to shade) by roughly 33%. hence 900p.



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leviathanwing

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@GraveUypo hoping you werent aiming that at me because you sound like a complete jerk if it is... next time reply to him and not me. because otherwise you took a whole lot of time to say what i said but back to me.

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@Adam802 "it took sony like 4 years to fix the ps3 and MS has already "fixed" the XB1 in less than 1 year. "

Very True. I remember i was an early adopter for the PS3 and Sony just could not get its head out if its collective ass. No rumble, PS3 game case art layout changed, the spiderman font was abandoned randomly...it took a while for the PS3 to feel really stable and comfortable.

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@BradBurns @Adam802 really turned into a great console, though

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@xantufrog @BradBurns @Adam802 It did. it's been my main gaming console for a long time now. And it's still getting tons of great games.

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If it only lasts till January can we really call it a price cut? Isn't this basically a sale?

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That is a good piont.

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I'm still crossing my fingers for a 299 black friday deal.

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@chrisb2313 The Brack Friday Bunduru is quite a legend.

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Ok Sony, your turn. Please drop the price tag before you release any games worth buying. :p

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It's so messy behind you guys :P Anyway, my thought is that it's still too expensive for a second console or budget conscious buyers who won't buy it for a few years still. What it does help is those that have been interested in the console but have held off for a slightly better holiday purchase (which is quite a lot of people, but not enough to overtake obviously.)

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@Sefrix How is $340 expensive for a console when peoples spend over 700 for smartphones?

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@Staranime010 @Sefrix mainly because average people use their smart phones a lot more than consoles. also most get them as part of a plan.

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@Sefrix My thoughts are simple, If you don't have $ 340 Dollars you have basically Failed at Life...
I mean really

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I can only assume you don't have children. I have a special needs child, two children in private school, and a baby. Do you have any idea how expensive all that is on top of bills + car+ groceries+ house payments? I work for a Fortune 50 company as a software development lead making twice as much as the average household in my state and I can't afford to just drop $350 whenever I feel like it.... Guess I failed.

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@Staranime010 @Sefrix Kinda, sorta.

While some people are financially irresponsible a lot more people have fallen through the cracks of the Casino that is our version of "capitalism".

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leviathanwing

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@Staranime010 ill frame it this way then... if you dont have 50k for a mercedes you fail at life... i mean really. the whole youre poor line is a weak one and doesnt ever ever explain why throwing money at something to prove you have the ability/capability to buy something one can afford will ever make it the smart thing to do. so do you have 50k for a car? if not youre weak... or some such internet wisdom.

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Hmmmm I can't decide :). I think it will definitely give them a boost, of course, but might not be enough to beat the PS4.

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http://www.ign.com/wikis/xbox-one/PS4_vs._Xbox_One_Native_Resolutions_and_Framerates

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