.:: Official F1 2010 (CodeMasters) Thread - PS3, 360 & PC ::.

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#451 XSamFisherX
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I learned at Suzuka, turn earlier than you think you need to and pray it sticks. This applies mostly to the fast corners like Degner 1 and R130. I gained seconds there by this. And spin off less.
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#452 dabest2500
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I always have trouble through Spoon at Suzuka, can never get the set-up nice and neutral through the essess and have a pointy enough car to get through spoon without getting mad oversteer or the car just washes away and understeers off. I think I've fixed it up recently on F1'06 but I've gotta get there which isn't easy given the little time I have spare for this kinda stuff.KimisApprentice

I don't bother with car setup.
I'll probably be bothered with set up into GT5, but not this game.
What I do instead of taking the general racing line at Spoon is take a tighter line, as in hitting the first apex then runnin tight instead of using the kerb, then hitting the second apex then using the kerb after that to get a higher exit speed.
One mistake in the Esses messes everything up,don't take the outside line for any of the corners in the Esses apart from the run up to the first one.

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#453 SchumiF1
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I'd check them for ya kipi, but I won't be able to take a photo til I find my camera :lol:

And ya with Suzuka, if you make a mistake in the Esses you lap is ruined but if you hit it spot on, you can gain a lot of time. Like Sam said, it takes a lot of commitment and you hope it sticks lol.

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#454 dabest2500
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I learned at Suzuka, turn earlier than you think you need to and pray it sticks. This applies mostly to the fast corners like Degner 1 and R130. I gained seconds there by this. And spin off less.XSamFisherX

I found that you can brake and turn in epically late for Degner 1.
I agree with what you said about 130R.

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#455 Redders1989
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It deffo isn't easy. It took me a lot of goes to finally beat Garfield's lap.
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#456 dabest2500
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It deffo isn't easy. It took me a lot of goes to finally beat Garfield's lap.Redders1989

Time?

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#457 kipi19
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I lose a lot of time in sector 2, mainly cus of the hairpin there, The esses I can half do right, but to be consistant lap after lap is damn hard around suzuka, you can really see why they say its a real racers circuit.
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#458 dabest2500
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I lose a lot of time in sector 2, mainly cus of the hairpin there, The esses I can half do right, but to be consistant lap after lap is damn hard around suzuka, you can really see why they say its a real racers circuit.kipi19

That why you need to leave a bit of a margin during the race.
It's a tough circuit but a damn enjoyable one!

The hairpin is a nice place to run wide or spin.
Tips for this would be to break just after the kerbing on the right before the hairpin, and to not touch the apex at all, but instead, pass as close as possible to it.

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#459 kipi19
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I know dude :P
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#460 dabest2500
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I know dude :Pkipi19

Not before I told you :D

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#461 kipi19
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Motorsport has been my life since I was 4 and now me being 20, I've studied Tracks, Cars, circuits and the history of F1 as well as other forms of motorsport, and raced a lil myself. ;)

hahaha, We all can learn from each other here :)

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#462 dabest2500
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Motorsport has been my life since I was 4 and now me being 20, I've studied Tracks, Cars, circuits and the history of F1 as well as other forms of motorsport, and raced a lil myself. ;)

hahaha, We all can learn from each other here :)

kipi19

You'll probably beat me at knowledge though (you should :)) because I'm only 15 and only started following motorsports at the beginning of the 2009 season :(

4 years old? How did you even understand what was going on :P?

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#463 kipi19
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I didn't at the time, but I just enjoyed cars racing, and that just spured me onto race, study motorsport and learn so much more about it.

This game I will say is by the closest the game has got to F1, but I still feel they can incorporate so much more, like for example, pit guys running up to the pit box areas and waving their winning car across the line, Podium scenes again :P

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#464 dabest2500
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I didn't at the time, but I just enjoyed cars racing, and that just spured me onto race, study motorsport and learn so much more about it.

This game I will say is by the closest the game has got to F1, but I still feel they can incorporate so much more, like for example, pit guys running up to the pit box areas and waving their winning car across the line, Podium scenes again :P

kipi19

Or even pit stops being ****ed up!
Closest? Well, I do suppose that in real F1, you can post a 1 minute 14 at Melbourne...

Just out of curiosity, is there anywhere that you can study about F1 or motorsports and get a proper degree for it?

A little glitch happened to me once.
I was about to cross the line at Silverstone but got a puncture, after crossing the line to win at Silverstone, my driver didn't celebrate and stopped the car in the middle of the track.

In my virgin year of F1, I read up a lot up racing, I even read up about LSD, camber and AYC!
Something you should probably never do in your first year of motorsports! Confused the hell out of me :P
I understood it after about 2 weeks of confusion though :D
I learnt a new thing from every race I watched, F1, WRC, BTCC, Le Mans etc.
I learnt much more last year than this year :(

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#465 kipi19
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Just, look up the past really, follow the teams, learn who did what, the circuits, Learn tracks on the games and really into it, I'll put a link in the video thread of Sir Jackie teaching James may how to lower his lap times, also watch the onboard footage of drivers doing qualiy laps for real, then go for it like they do and do your best to match it. You'll learn a ****load I promise.
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#466 dabest2500
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Just, look up the past really, follow the teams, learn who did what, the circuits, Learn tracks on the games and really into it, I'll put a link in the video thread of Sir Jackie teaching James may how to lower his lap times, also watch the onboard footage of drivers doing qualiy laps for real, then go for it like they do and do your best to match it. You'll learn a ****load I promise.kipi19

Ah, the past.
I've never been good at history :(
But I do remember significant events in F1, but not events like number of points Jordan scored etc.
I remember events such as Aryton Senna moving from Lotus etc.
I've seen that video of Jackie Stewart already.
I'm afraid of pushing to hard on F1 2010 though as clipping an apex could see you pick up a puncture/send you flying.
I had no problem pushing hard in F1 CE and GT5P though.
I set a qualifying time every lap for 20 laps at Suzuka in GT5P. With the AI on difficulty 101 (the hardest) in an F1 car (they had F1 cars too).
But when it comes to F1 2010, it will probably take some time to know which apexes not to hit as it could be a buggy apex and which ones I can.

Good luck in teaching me a ****load :)

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#467 SchumiF1
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In TT, since the conditions are prime, it's weird driving because I'm used to driving so cautious in career and online. In TT you can really push the car where it even surprises you that it stuck on the road.
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#468 kipi19
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I'll let the videos do the talking ;)
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#469 dabest2500
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I'll let the videos do the talking ;)kipi19

I've seen these before.
Didn't learn anything :(
Though, I'm re watching the Jackie Stewart one to see if I've missed anything.

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#470 kipi19
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Just listen and take in the advice dude.
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#471 dabest2500
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Just listen and take in the advice dude.kipi19

:lol:
BTW, do you use a controller or a wheel when you play F1 2010?

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#472 kipi19
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Controller, and here's a tip for racing. Just remember one thing, The 100 or 150 meterboard. I'll let you figure out what I mean.
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#473 KimisApprentice
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I imagine there should be a BUCKET load of time to be found if people spent more time working on a set-up. Especially in places that are particularly extreme - Monza and Monaco especially.
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#474 dabest2500
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Controller, kipi19

What do you use for accelerate and brake?
Jackie stewart said not to keep lifting off the accelerator, this is impossible with the controller.
I have to keep tapping it to get through hairpins etc.
I can't use the wheel because the wheel only does 180 degrees.

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#475 dabest2500
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I imagine there should be a BUCKET load of time to be found if people spent more time working on a set-up. Especially in places that are particularly extreme - Monza and Monaco especially.KimisApprentice

For those, I use the pre-made setups.

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#476 dabest2500
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Just remember one thing, The 100 or 150 meterboard. I'll let you figure out what I mean.kipi19

I already knew this :D

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#477 KimisApprentice
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You can slowly apply the accelerator using the x button, just takes a bit of practise. I've been playing F1 2005 on PS2 in heavy rain and allowing myself no more than 50% traction control but more often than not running it lower just to make a challenging race in that game :D
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#478 KimisApprentice
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[QUOTE="KimisApprentice"]I imagine there should be a BUCKET load of time to be found if people spent more time working on a set-up. Especially in places that are particularly extreme - Monza and Monaco especially.dabest2500

For those, I use the pre-made setups.

So you have never tried to iron out your traction troubles in low speed turns? Try softening the rear suspension by reducing the ARBs, increasing the negative camber and softening the damping both in bound and rebound, the car may feel quite different.

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#479 dabest2500
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[QUOTE="dabest2500"]

[QUOTE="KimisApprentice"]I imagine there should be a BUCKET load of time to be found if people spent more time working on a set-up. Especially in places that are particularly extreme - Monza and Monaco especially.KimisApprentice

For those, I use the pre-made setups.

So you have never tried to iron out your traction troubles in low speed turns? Try softening the rear suspension by reducing the ARBs, increasing the negative camber and softening the damping both in bound and rebound, the car may feel quite different.

My times are getting me through Career.

I haven't done any time trials seriously yet, only did it once for the trophy.

But if I ever do do time trial seriously, I'll know how to set up my car (learnt how to do this from my Gran Turismo days).

 

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#480 dabest2500
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You can slowly apply the accelerator using the x button, just takes a bit of practise. I've been playing F1 2005 on PS2 in heavy rain and allowing myself no more than 50% traction control but more often than not running it lower just to make a challenging race in that game :DKimisApprentice

The only way I see of doing that is by using the analog sticks to accelerate and brake or L2 and R2.
Anyways, I'm going to sleep now, got school tomorrow.

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#481 KimisApprentice
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Set -ups in GT, quite frankly, make nothing like the difference as they do in F1 games - at least in my experience of GT1-4 and F1  '06.

Glitchspot strikes again, there are no HTML tags in the same way that the cake is a lie and there is no spoon.

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#482 SchumiF1
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Ya I put in setups I usually run in other racing games, and in F1 2010 it caused me to do terrible before I figured out how the game works and adjusted things to my style and how to apply it in F1 2010.
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#483 dabest2500
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Set -ups in GT, quite frankly, make nothing like the difference as they do in F1 games - at least in my experience of GT1-4 and F1  '06.

Glitchspot strikes again, there are no HTML tags in the same way that the cake is a lie and there is no spoon.

KimisApprentice

I was saying that I learnt how to set up a car in GT.
They porbably do make a ****load of difference in an F1 car but I was simply saying that I learnt it from GT.

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#484 kipi19
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I've found with this F1 2010 with using acceleration as X, there is just no balance in the throttle, its either on or off, and In F1CE I could balance it out, this i've guided into my driving style, but I still find it a hinderence :P

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#485 dabest2500
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I've found with this F1 2010 with using acceleration as X, there is just no balance in the throttle, its either on or off, and In F1CE I could balance it out, this i've guided into my driving style, but I still find it a hinderence :P

kipi19

And obviously having a balance is great, so why not customise your controls?

I got a weird problem, any help will be appreciated.
When I assign L1 and R1 as the brakes and accelerator, which I usually do, and then I make L2 and R2 to shift gears, I also tap the button above it.
For example, when I tap the downshift button, I will also tap the brake button for some reason. Same for the other side, which is quite annoying, as when I brake, it will cause me to lift off the brake and go on to it again which will lose time.
Any help here?

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#486 XSamFisherX
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Any help here?dabest2500
Try not knocking the game for your lack of dexterity.
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#487 kipi19
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There is no sensitivity control =/
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#488 SchumiF1
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Change your controller setup?
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#489 dabest2500
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[QUOTE="dabest2500"]Any help here?XSamFisherX
Try not knocking the game for your lack of dexterity.

No, this is for all games when I use R2 and L2 buttons as shifting gears.
When I shift down a gear, I automatically tap the L1 (the button above it) for some very weird reason.

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#490 dabest2500
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There is no sensitivity control =/kipi19

Using L2 and R2 might help here, half press it for half braking/acceleration.

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#491 dabest2500
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Change your controller setup?SchumiF1

Yes, I now use square and circle to shift gears but I was wondering why I do have that weird problem.

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#492 kipi19
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haha, My muscle memory is set-up for the way my controller is setup haha, I've incorperated it into my style so its no longer a problem, but just saying it would be nice XD
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#493 dabest2500
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haha, My muscle memory is set-up for the way my controller is setup haha, I've incorperated it into my style so its no longer a problem, but just saying it would be nice XDkipi19

Muscle memory?

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#494 kipi19
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Yeaaa, I play guitar, bass and drums, and Muscle memory is really simple, its doing somethin over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over so much your muscles and movements no longer need your eyes to see what you're doing.

Touchtyping is an example, like I typed most of this post by doing so, The way I use my Controller set-up, and Play my instruments of course.

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#495 dabest2500
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Yeaaa, I play guitar, bass and drums, and Muscle memory is really simple, its doing somethin over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over so much your muscles and movements no longer need your eyes to see what you're doing.

Touchtyping is an example, like I typed most of this post by doing so, The way I use my Controller set-up, and Play my instruments of course.

kipi19

Thanks for the explanation :)
I sort of touch type but do it whilst looking into the centre of the keyboard.
Without looking or deleting anything, I will attempt to type "Hello, I am Dabest2500 and it's nice to meet you.":

Jekko, I am Danesy2500 and it's nice to meey you.

Hmmm...
Pretty close...

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#496 kipi19
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Well, it takes years of practice tbh lol, F1 drivers do it with their steering wheels, have heard rumours of drivers taking them home and practice for hours each day with their eyes shut knowing where each knob and button is on the wheel

Coulthard Famously took the layout of his Macca 2004 steering wheel, got permission and took it straight to RBR when he went, so he didn't have to re-learn a single thing.

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#497 dabest2500
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Well, it takes years of practice tbh lol, F1 drivers do it with their steering wheels, have heard rumours of drivers taking them home and practice for hours each day with their eyes shut knowing where each knob and button is on the wheel

Coulthard Famously took the layout of his Macca 2004 steering wheel, got permission and took it straight to RBR when he went, so he didn't have to re-learn a single thing.

kipi19

Years of practice?
I learnt to type fast and come close to touch typing simply through Forums, MSN and word processing.

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#498 kipi19
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Yeaaa, But even then, its still not perfect is it ;)

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#499 dabest2500
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Yeaaa, But even then, its still not perfect is it ;)

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WOW :shock:
Playing online more than Career mode are we :(

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