Sony teases "the future" of Playstation - countdown to 2/20/13

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#251 S0lidSnake
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God that thing is an obamanation!

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Did you purposely misspell "abomination" to "obamanation" as some kind of dig to Obama? If so how does that tie into this thread? I want to understand teh funnyz. Or is that an oops?

It's supposed to be funny. Obama haters came up with it, and for once I thought it was hilarious. I love it. 

Also, there is an internet meme where if anything bad ever happens, it's obama's fault. I think it started with informercials you see after midnight.

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#252 F1Lengend
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Destructoid has a picture of what might be the PS4 controller.  It looks more like a prototype than a finished product to me, but that sure looks like what has been described.

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The sticks are ugly, and I'm not sure why it has a speaker.

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Hmm. I like it I think. Hopefully the analog sticks feel like the 360s but I'm glad the position is the same. I think the 360 pad works for shooters but its not as versatile as the DS3 since your hands are forced into a certain position. Otherwise, colour me intrigued. Also a mic right on the controller would help with multiplats taking advantage of Kinect BS? Although I'd rather keep costs down, this thing will be pricey.
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#253 c_rakestraw  Moderator
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Controller looks all right. I just hope they improve the trigger buttons. They're in serious need of a revamp.

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#254 GodModeEnabled
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I would like to see a controller done right that you could customize yourself meaning you could choose where to put the sticks or the buttons. I don't know how it would actually work but something like that would be sweet.
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#255 c_rakestraw  Moderator
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I would like to see a controller done right that you could customize yourself meaning you could choose where to put the sticks or the buttons. I don't know how it would actually work but something like that would be sweet.GodModeEnabled

This is the best idea ever. How has it not been done yet?

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#256 Vari3ty
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[QUOTE="GodModeEnabled"]I would like to see a controller done right that you could customize yourself meaning you could choose where to put the sticks or the buttons. I don't know how it would actually work but something like that would be sweet.c_rake

This is the best idea ever. How has it not been done yet?

Mad Catz actually did this with their MLG controller, problem is that Mad Catz makes garbage controllers and they charged $100 for this one. 

I've been thinking Microsoft and Sony should really offer more controller options. Not everyone has the same hand size or preferences as to what the controller layout is. Make multple versions that appeal to more people. 

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#257 c_rakestraw  Moderator
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Mad Catz actually did this with their MLG controller, problem is that Mad Catz makes garbage controllers and they charged $100 for this one. 

I've been thinking Microsoft and Sony should really offer more controller options. Not everyone has the same hand size or preferences as to what the controller layout is. Make multple versions that appeal to more people. 

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Ugh. Mad Catz. Can't count the number of controllers I bought from them that went on to fail within days of purchase.

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#258 kickingcarpet
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Well considering how well PS3 did this generation i'm more excited about the Xbox 720. It will just be another overly expensive box with little to no good exclusives and with less people online to play multiplayer with.
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#259 CarnageHeart
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Well considering how well PS3 did this generation i'm more excited about the Xbox 720. It will just be another overly expensive box with little to no good exclusives and with less people online to play multiplayer with.kickingcarpet

Good luck with that. I'm sure MS will be unveiling the X720 in the near future.

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According to a former Sony employee, The Last Guardian has been moved to the PS4. Any truth to that?

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According to a former Sony employee, The Last Guardian has been moved to the PS4. Any truth to that?

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It's pretty much what we all expected.

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#262 rragnaar
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Another angle.  I'm sure the sticks are comfortable, they just remind me of the cigarette lighter in a car.

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#263 Vari3ty
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Another angle.  I'm sure the sticks are comfortable, they just remind me of the cigarette lighter in a car.

rragnaar

Is it just me or do the handles look longer?

Still don't know what the L2/R2 triggers look like. I'm hoping they make them concave like the 360's.

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#264 CarnageHeart
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Eurogamer has confirmed that the controller shot is real though it probably isn't the final version. They also pointed out that the new controller has Move functionality built in (via the glowing blue window at the front). I don't like the concave thumbsticks, but if that's in the final version, I'll deal (it could be a lot worse).

http://www.eurogamer.net/

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So built in Mic. TWO Cameras positioned adjacent to the console and an LED strip on the Controller.

They might be able to do some motion tracking without the need of a motion controller. The two cameras might be able to detect depth perception even better than the Eye Toy but aside from head tracking in racing games I dont see how the LED would work with the camera.

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#266 cejay0813
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Notice how long the video is on the teaser site... 00:44

Could be a coincidence, but me thinks not

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#268 Metamania
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I saw on Gamespot News that a report states that PS4 will be streaming PS3 games.

So wait, does that mean that all or just current PS3 titles will be made available via stream? So, essentially, does that really mean backwards-compatibility?

If it does, that would seal the deal for me on getting a PS4.

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#269 deactivated-5b19c359a3789
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I saw on Gamespot News that a report states that PS4 will be streaming PS3 games.

So wait, does that mean that all or just current PS3 titles will be made available via stream? So, essentially, does that really mean backwards-compatibility?

If it does, that would seal the deal for me on getting a PS4.

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It's why they bought Gaikai.

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#270 Metamania
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[QUOTE="Metamania"]

I saw on Gamespot News that a report states that PS4 will be streaming PS3 games.

So wait, does that mean that all or just current PS3 titles will be made available via stream? So, essentially, does that really mean backwards-compatibility?

If it does, that would seal the deal for me on getting a PS4.

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It's why they bought Gaikai.

Never heard of Gaikai, so I'm to safely assume they are a streaming service of sorts?

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Never heard of Gaikai, so I'm to safely assume they are a streaming service of sorts?Metamania

Yep. Didn't get as much press as OnLive did, but they've been at the game streaming business for a while.

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[QUOTE="Metamania"]Never heard of Gaikai, so I'm to safely assume they are a streaming service of sorts?c_rake

Yep. Didn't get as much press as OnLive did, but they've been at the game streaming business for a while.

Plus they are better at streaming High End games than Onlive. They have a better streaming system. They can make it even better by focusing just on the cell processors.

There will still be lag and it still wont be as good as playing the real thing, but it will be better than what you get on PC. 

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#274 S0lidSnake
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So we basically know everything Sony will show on wednesday.

We have the controller which will have some form of Move built in. Streaming service for PS3 BC and more. Last Story PS4. MGS on PS4. New Guerrilla game. New Motorstorm team game. Something from Square, possibly FFXV. LBP Home. 

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Last Story? lol it's been so long you've forgotten the name! I wouldn't be too sure it will be at this meeting since Ueda recently just said it's upto Sony to reveal the game, didnt seem too enthusiastic about it.

There should be an Uncharted teaser like the snow one and the desert one used to reveal Uncharted 2 and 3. It's been well over a year since U3 came out, and seeing as how ND's ICE Team likely designed the PS4 specs, they should already have an engine ready for a prerendered ingame teaser. 

Geoff Keighley said there will be third party surprises and announcements so maybe EA will show off the new Respawn Entertainment game? Ubisoft likely wont pass on this oppurtunity to show off Watch Dogs to a massive audience. Plus like EA, they've been in bed with Sony for a while now showing off their games at E3 pressers and giving exclusive DLC to Sony.

Also, I doubt Sony would show off a new PS without showing Gran Turismo. It's been well over two years since GT5 came out, they have to have something to show. Maybe just a teaser.

Sucker Punch have also been quiet since Infamous 2 came out a year and a half ago. That's more than enough time to show us a teaser. Full reveal at E3.

Sony Santa Monica has a second team with Stig working on a new IP with vehicles. Maybe 8 Days makes a comeback? :P 

Also, Guerrilla tweeted that they have 200 employees and that 2013 is going to be their biggest year ever. They are supposedly working on two different games, and were working on this new IP way back in 2010. They have to have something to show. 

Sony showed a ton of CGi trailers for games at E3 2005. I highly doubt they will only show two or three first party games when they have so many AAA teams working on new IPs and high profile sequels. 

Lastly, Geoff seemed very hyped for this show and he usually has some inside info on these things. He expected there to be a lot of content. It's good to go in with lowered expectations but I think Sony's going to blow our expectations out of the water.

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Its been rumored that the next Sonic game will be shown in Feb. Possible showing at this? I think so. :Pdvader654
Sonic Generations 2 please. Dat game waz toight.
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#277 burgeg
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Its been rumored that the next Sonic game will be shown in Feb. Possible showing at this? I think so. :Pdvader654
I doubt it. Personally I'd love that as I'm a massive Sonic fan and I definitely want to see the next Sonic do something a bit different than recent titles with a next gen debut. But I just have my doubts Sega will want to reveal the next Sonic yet. Plus I doubt the next Sonic is next gen exclusive, and I'd expect this event to only really focus on next gen exclusive stuff. You never know though. Could just be a little clip of it on a video showing off a loads of titles confirmed for PS4 like the video at the Vita event in 2011.

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#278 rragnaar
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One of the guys from Quantic Dream is in New York right now, and the Kara demo was just re-uploaded on Sony EU's youtube channel.  That demo looked way too good for PS3 hardware.

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#280 S0lidSnake
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One of the guys from Quantic Dream is in New York right now, and the Kara demo was just re-uploaded on Sony EU's youtube channel.  That demo looked way too good for PS3 hardware.

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you think so? It looked pretty current gen to me. Beyond looks better imo.

I dont think the co founder being there means much. Everyone in the industry who has some clout is going to be there. Though a tech demo from QD wouldnt be surprising. The PS3 one was phenomenal back in 2006.

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#281 CarnageHeart
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[QUOTE="GodModeEnabled"][QUOTE="dvader654"]Its been rumored that the next Sonic game will be shown in Feb. Possible showing at this? I think so. :Pdvader654
Sonic Generations 2 please. Dat game waz toight.

Its called Sonic Universe or something and its going to be an open world sonic as rumors say.

I don't think Sonic's style of gameplay/game design lends itself to free roaming in the same way that Mario's does.

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#282 CarnageHeart
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[QUOTE="rragnaar"]

One of the guys from Quantic Dream is in New York right now, and the Kara demo was just re-uploaded on Sony EU's youtube channel. That demo looked way too good for PS3 hardware.

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you think so? It looked pretty current gen to me. Beyond looks better imo.

I dont think the co founder being there means much. Everyone in the industry who has some clout is going to be there. Though a tech demo from QD wouldnt be surprising. The PS3 one was phenomenal back in 2006.

Kara looked current gen to me as well, but since its not going to come out anytime soon, it would beshocking if it weren't bumped to the PS4.

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#283 rragnaar
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I haven't watched it since it first came out, but I remember being blown away.
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[QUOTE="dvader654"][QUOTE="GodModeEnabled"] Sonic Generations 2 please. Dat game waz toight.CarnageHeart

Its called Sonic Universe or something and its going to be an open world sonic as rumors say.

I don't think Sonic's style of gameplay/game design lends itself to free roaming in the same way that Mario's does.

Not true in the slightest. Sonic's MODERN style of gameplay doesn't lend itself to more open gameplay. A 3D Sonic that goes back to the series roots and has quality platforming with less "ZOMG DAT SPEEEEEEED AND DAT BOOST BUTTON WOOOOOOSSSHH" would work fine with more open exploration gameplay. Just get rid of the boost, slow Sonic down to a reasonable speed and make the controls better. An open Sonic has a lot of potential actually, and a Sonic with a more open style could be a refreshing change for the series. There can be more controlled linear areas where there's room to get up to high speeds, but there can be plenty of room for running around a large open environment too. Hell, the whole speed thing the series has lends itself perfectly to a more open free roaming style. Give the player a large playground for the player to run around freely, roll around at the speed of sound and use rolling/gravity physics to access areas of a large environment. Combine a real open playground you run around freely in at high speed with more controlled linear areas and good platforming would be fantastic for the series.

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#285 Vari3ty
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[QUOTE="dvader654"]

So we basically know everything Sony will show on wednesday.

We have the controller which will have some form of Move built in. Streaming service for PS3 BC and more. Last Story PS4. MGS on PS4. New Guerrilla game. New Motorstorm team game. Something from Square, possibly FFXV. LBP Home. 

S0lidSnake

Last Story? lol it's been so long you've forgotten the name! I wouldn't be too sure it will be at this meeting since Ueda recently just said it's upto Sony to reveal the game, didnt seem too enthusiastic about it.

There should be an Uncharted teaser like the snow one and the desert one used to reveal Uncharted 2 and 3. It's been well over a year since U3 came out, and seeing as how ND's ICE Team likely designed the PS4 specs, they should already have an engine ready for a prerendered ingame teaser. 

Geoff Keighley said there will be third party surprises and announcements so maybe EA will show off the new Respawn Entertainment game? Ubisoft likely wont pass on this oppurtunity to show off Watch Dogs to a massive audience. Plus like EA, they've been in bed with Sony for a while now showing off their games at E3 pressers and giving exclusive DLC to Sony.

Also, I doubt Sony would show off a new PS without showing Gran Turismo. It's been well over two years since GT5 came out, they have to have something to show. Maybe just a teaser.

Sucker Punch have also been quiet since Infamous 2 came out a year and a half ago. That's more than enough time to show us a teaser. Full reveal at E3.

Sony Santa Monica has a second team with Stig working on a new IP with vehicles. Maybe 8 Days makes a comeback? :P 

Also, Guerrilla tweeted that they have 200 employees and that 2013 is going to be their biggest year ever. They are supposedly working on two different games, and were working on this new IP way back in 2010. They have to have something to show. 

Sony showed a ton of CGi trailers for games at E3 2005. I highly doubt they will only show two or three first party games when they have so many AAA teams working on new IPs and high profile sequels. 

Lastly, Geoff seemed very hyped for this show and he usually has some inside info on these things. He expected there to be a lot of content. It's good to go in with lowered expectations but I think Sony's going to blow our expectations out of the water.

Crossing my fingers that Guerrilla's new IP is an RPG. That would be hard for me to ignore. 

Also seeing Respawn's next game would be great. 

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1200 people expected at the meeting. 

1200!

Sony better bring ALL their major exclusives to this reveal. They cant get by revealing just two or three big games. We need at least THREE New IPs from them and at least four new sequels. Revealing Fifa, Madden and Watch Dogs wont cut it. They will need massive third party announcements as well. I know Sony has an embarrassment of the riches and might want to save some stuff for E3, GDC and Gamescom but after all this hype, at this point, if they dont show these games below it's going to be a big disappointment.

  • MGS5
  • Killzone 4
  • Guerrilla's New IP
  • Last Guardian
  • Sony Santa Monica New IP
  • Evolution Studios New IP
  • GT6
  • Sucker Punch New IP
  • Uncharted 4 
  • FF Versus 13
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Someone's setting the bar a bit high.:P
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#288 Metamania
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Let's not kid ourselves, this is going to be all about the PS4. If Sony brought in 1200 people for it, you can bet your money that it is all about the PS4. It would have been a completely cruel joke if it wasn't and Sony would have trolled the crap out of everyone.

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#289 F1Lengend
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1200 people expected at the meeting. 

1200!

Sony better bring ALL their major exclusives to this reveal. They cant get by revealing just two or three big games. We need at least THREE New IPs from them and at least four new sequels. Revealing Fifa, Madden and Watch Dogs wont cut it. They will need massive third party announcements as well. I know Sony has an embarrassment of the riches and might want to save some stuff for E3, GDC and Gamescom but after all this hype, at this point, if they dont show these games below it's going to be a big disappointment.

  • MGS5
  • Killzone 4
  • Guerrilla's New IP
  • Last Guardian
  • Sony Santa Monica New IP
  • Evolution Studios New IP
  • GT6
  • Sucker Punch New IP
  • Uncharted 4 
  • FF Versus 13

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#291 S0lidSnake
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Let's not kid ourselves, this is going to be all about the PS4. If Sony brought in 1200 people for it, you can bet your money that it is all about the PS4. It would have been a completely cruel joke if it wasn't and Sony would have trolled the crap out of everyone.

Metamania

lol who here really thought otherwise?

We've all been talking about the PS4 since this event was first announced. 

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#292 S0lidSnake
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:lol:

You dont reveal your biggest product in 8 years and half ass it just so you have some more stuff to show at gaming focused events such as E3 or GDC. All the mainstream press is going to be there on Feb 20th. If they want to make the biggest splash, and they have to now, they have to show all their cards. It will be silly not to show Uncharted which is their biggest franchise of this gen. Or Gran Turismo which is their biggest franchise of all time. Showing only one new IP will paint them as a sequel machine instead of a true leader. All these Sony devs I listed above haven't made a game in at least two years or more. You're telling me they cant put together a two minute teaser for these new IPs? I am not asking for game demos. Just teasers and trailers are fine. Just like they did back at E3 2005 where they showed one trailer after another. It was amazing. 

They can save walkthroughs for E3.

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#293 D3s7rUc71oN
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Will Agent ever be released? Less than 2 days, starting to get excited now. I hope we get a few surprises, Mgs5? Warhawk 2? 

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Will Agent ever be released? Less than 2 days, starting to get excited now. I hope we get a few surprises, Mgs5? Warhawk 2? 

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Lightbox Interactive, the makers of Starhawk and Warhawk, are functionally dead after the commercial failure of Starhawk (those that survived the layoffs are working on an IoS game).
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#295 Shame-usBlackley
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For the last week on the world news broadcasts on AM radio, they have been talking about Sony's conference and how it is likely going to be to announce the next Playstation. I think people who are thinking only geeks and gaming press will know about this have their heads in their asses a bit. I also saw them talking about it on Fox Business, which means they are also likely talking about it on CNN and MSNBC. Word's getting around.

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#296 Vari3ty
Member since 2009 • 11111 Posts

I agree Sony needs to show games, and a fair amount of them at that. Just showing the PS4 and some tech demos would be disappointing. 

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#297 S0lidSnake
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I went back and skimmed through the Sony E3 2005 conference. Here are all the games and tech demos they showed during this conference. 


Existing Franchises:

  • The Getaway (Realtime)
  • Fight Night (Realtime)
  • Devil may Cry 4 (CGi)
  • Mobile Suit Gundam (CGi)
  • Tekken (CGi)
  • Red Dead Redemption (Realtime?)
  • Killzone 2 (CGi)
  • Gran Turismo HD (definitely realtime because it looked like sh*t lol)

New IPs

  • Resistance (Realtime)
  • Some random Samurai game Ni-OH that never came out(CGi)
  • Some crazy f*cking virtual Reality game with two hot girls - Eye-Dentify (CGi?)
  • Sega Fifth Phantom Saga - FPS (Realtime)
  • Heavenly Sword (CGi)
  • Warhawk (CGi)
  • Killing Day (Ubisoft CGI never came out lol)
  • Motorstorm (CGi)
  • Eighty Days (CGi)


Tech demos:

  • Unreal Engine 3 tech de
  • Alfred Molina demo
  • Eight Days Gas Station explosion demo
  • Volumentric Clouds and landscapes tech demo
  • FFVII tech demo
  • Jungle demo

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And this is when they were all focused on PS2 games and had to resort to CGi to show the future. They are much better preapred this time around.

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#298 IndianaPwns39
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[QUOTE="dvader654"][QUOTE="GodModeEnabled"] Sonic Generations 2 please. Dat game waz toight.CarnageHeart

Its called Sonic Universe or something and its going to be an open world sonic as rumors say.

I don't think Sonic's style of gameplay/game design lends itself to free roaming in the same way that Mario's does.

The original Sonic Adventure had a hub like open world you could run around in and re-select stages. I remember having fun in that open world so if they tweak it for something bigger I'm sure it'd be fine.

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#300 S0lidSnake
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Geoff Keighley, Adam Sessler and Geoff Gertsmann are doing a Live pre show special together! I am glad I already told my manager i will be leaving half hour early. Now I can catch even the preshow starting at 5! mauahahha!