Xbox One games must be activated online. Used games keys must be bought again.

[QUOTE="dvader654"][QUOTE="Black_Knight_00"] uhm, PC gaming has been exactly like this for years. Single use CD-Keys anyone?fl4tlined

This is exactly the reason why.

[QUOTE="Black_Knight_00"][QUOTE="GodModeEnabled"]I expect Sony to follow suit with something as equally as ridiculous. No way they aren't gonna want a piece of this pie. Expect it guys. Console gaming is a godamn mess.GodModeEnabled

You've never heard of cd keys and think console gaming is dying?

[QUOTE="GodModeEnabled"]I expect Sony to follow suit with something as equally as ridiculous. No way they aren't gonna want a piece of this pie. Expect it guys. Console gaming is a godamn mess.c_rake

I don't know. Sony could use this to their advantage by not forcing such draconian measures. Might win them some additional support.

Yeah, if they play it right this could be a coup for sony.

[QUOTE="GodModeEnabled"][QUOTE="Black_Knight_00"] uhm, PC gaming has been exactly like this for years. Single use CD-Keys anyone?MonoSilver

You've never heard of cd keys and think console gaming is dying?

it's pretty scummy, but at least it's a fee rather than an outright banning of used games. i can't imagine how terrible a platform would be where you could only buy a retail game for a month or two while it's on shelves then have it flushed away and forgotten like toilet paper. i still can't exactly take this as a selling point for a new xbox.

Now i think about it this change sort of makes sense apparently you will be able to install games and play them without having the disc in.. I mean imagine if you could just rent or buy a game install it and return it the same day.. they would lose sooo much money.. But how their going about it with one xbox live account per a game just seems criminal and a money grab...fl4tlined

You got a point. But...what are the chances rentals will even be around? How will that even work?

[QUOTE="Black_Knight_00"][QUOTE="GodModeEnabled"]I expect Sony to follow suit with something as equally as ridiculous. No way they aren't gonna want a piece of this pie. Expect it guys. Console gaming is a godamn mess.GodModeEnabled

Not forever. Until Steam goes out of business.

[QUOTE="GodModeEnabled"][QUOTE="Black_Knight_00"] uhm, PC gaming has been exactly like this for years. Single use CD-Keys anyone?MonoSilver

You've never heard of cd keys and think console gaming is dying?

[QUOTE="GodModeEnabled"][QUOTE="Black_Knight_00"] uhm, PC gaming has been exactly like this for years. Single use CD-Keys anyone?S0lidSnake

Not forever. Until Steam goes out of business.

[QUOTE="GodModeEnabled"][QUOTE="Black_Knight_00"] uhm, PC gaming has been exactly like this for years. Single use CD-Keys anyone?S0lidSnake

Not forever. Until Steam goes out of business.

a kinect is a must in order for xbox 1 to work

 thats a big f-u if you ask me

source 

http://www.ign.com/articles/2013/05/21/xbox-one-will-not-function-without-kinect-attached

[QUOTE="GodModeEnabled"][QUOTE="Black_Knight_00"] uhm, PC gaming has been exactly like this for years. Single use CD-Keys anyone?MonoSilver

You've never heard of cd keys and think console gaming is dying?

To be fair CD-keys are kinda becoming a relic, at least for games. Aren't most PC game sales now via digital distribution such as Steam, Gamer's Gate, etc?

Ok I read that discs will not be required after installation. This makes it mandatory that MS impose a charge or that disc would simply be used by a bunch of people to install and pass it on. This means the fee will be considerable, it practically has to be the full price of the game, cause if not one friend can buy a game and all friends could own it for a cheaper price. Now in terms of used games it kills them. There would be zero resale value for the disc. Wow this plan is pure evil.dvader654

I can't see how rentals will work either. Unless they give rental copies a special time-expiring key. 

[QUOTE="ThaneKrios28"]

a kinect is a must in order for xbox 1 to work

 

 thats a big f-u if you ask me

source 

http://www.ign.com/articles/2013/05/21/xbox-one-will-not-function-without-kinect-attached

dvader654

[QUOTE="dvader654"]Ok I read that discs will not be required after installation. This makes it mandatory that MS impose a charge or that disc would simply be used by a bunch of people to install and pass it on. This means the fee will be considerable, it practically has to be the full price of the game, cause if not one friend can buy a game and all friends could own it for a cheaper price. Now in terms of used games it kills them. There would be zero resale value for the disc. Wow this plan is pure evil.alexwatchtower

I can't see how rentals will work either. Unless they give rental copies a special time-expiring key. 

Ok I read that discs will not be required after installation. This makes it mandatory that MS impose a charge or that disc would simply be used by a bunch of people to install and pass it on. This means the fee will be considerable, it practically has to be the full price of the game, cause if not one friend can buy a game and all friends could own it for a cheaper price. Now in terms of used games it kills them. There would be zero resale value for the disc. Wow this plan is pure evil.dvader654

Where did you read this? Discs have been required for the 360. Why would thye change it for Xbox One? Just to charge an insane fee?

[QUOTE="dvader654"][QUOTE="ThaneKrios28"]

a kinect is a must in order for xbox 1 to work

 

 thats a big f-u if you ask me

source 

http://www.ign.com/articles/2013/05/21/xbox-one-will-not-function-without-kinect-attached

ThaneKrios28

I'm sorry but if there's one thing that was NOT crappy about this reveal, it was the Kinect integration. I considered buying it based on that fact alone.

I guess the split will continue to be large on this one.

And I do like the fact there is NOT an option. That means every developer will actually take advantage of it and it's fully integrated. 

this was a good question actually from a poster on another forum

other poster

what i'm wondering is, if you have two accounts on one xbox do you have to pay to install it on both accounts?

[QUOTE="MonoSilver"]

[QUOTE="GodModeEnabled"] Can't say I have ever heard of those. I do know my Steam games will be on my account forever and work on whatever PC I want that is capable of running them. What happens to your xbox one games when the next xbox is announced and is not backwards compatabile? These kinds of things don't work on closed platforms and will destroy console gaming, it is already dying in fact.worlock77

You've never heard of cd keys and think console gaming is dying?

To be fair CD-keys are kinda becoming a relic, at least for games. Aren't most PC game sales now via digital distribution such as Steam, Gamer's Gate, etc?

[QUOTE="ThaneKrios28"][QUOTE="dvader654"] It comes with every Xbox so you will own one whether you want to or not. Does it work in small rooms? Cause if not I can't eve play the console if I want to. I don't have my consoles in the living room.alexwatchtower

I'm sorry but if there's one thing that was NOT crappy about this reveal, it was the Kinect integration. I considered buying it based on that fact alone.

I guess the split will continue to be large on this one.

And I do like the fact there is NOT an option. That means every developer will actually take advantage of it and it's fully integrated. 

Because it's fully integrated, it also opens the floodgates for all the shovelware the motion controls bring.

[QUOTE="ThaneKrios28"][QUOTE="dvader654"] It comes with every Xbox so you will own one whether you want to or not. Does it work in small rooms? Cause if not I can't eve play the console if I want to. I don't have my consoles in the living room.worlock77

You're not forced to buy the XBOX One. And lots of things come with accessories that the customer may not want. Like my cell phone came with one of those goofy Bluetooth ear sets. I don't want it, I'll never use it, but I'm not bothered by it's inclusion ether.

Considering Steam is the leader in the digital marketplace, the face of PC gaming and ridiculously rich and successful I wouldn't worry about that happening anytime soon.GodModeEnabled

Even so Steam aside all of my Physical games work from PC to PC, my point was that on a closed platform this is madness and it works for PC because it is an open platform.GodModeEnabled

[QUOTE="alexwatchtower"]

[QUOTE="dvader654"]Ok I read that discs will not be required after installation. This makes it mandatory that MS impose a charge or that disc would simply be used by a bunch of people to install and pass it on. This means the fee will be considerable, it practically has to be the full price of the game, cause if not one friend can buy a game and all friends could own it for a cheaper price. Now in terms of used games it kills them. There would be zero resale value for the disc. Wow this plan is pure evil.ThaneKrios28

I can't see how rentals will work either. Unless they give rental copies a special time-expiring key. 

I don't think Redbox will be much hurt by this. I mean how much of their business is video games anyway? Gamefly, on the other hand, might be well f*cked.

[QUOTE="alexwatchtower"]

[QUOTE="ThaneKrios28"] im just saying its idiotic to basicly force people to buy something and throw in a crappy thing they dont want . at least with the 360 we had the option to buy or not buy the kinect but having to have one in order for the system itself to function is shittyMonoSilver

I'm sorry but if there's one thing that was NOT crappy about this reveal, it was the Kinect integration. I considered buying it based on that fact alone.

I guess the split will continue to be large on this one.

And I do like the fact there is NOT an option. That means every developer will actually take advantage of it and it's fully integrated. 

Because it's fully integrated, it also opens the floodgates for all the shovelware the motion controls bring.

Well I'm pretty -kind of? -sure that's one thing they are not forcing us to buy.

But it also opens up the floodgates to actual industry-wide, game development, which is what the original Kinect didn't have. Because it still suffered the fate that all add-ons suffer of a lack of industry-wide support.

[QUOTE="ThaneKrios28"][QUOTE="alexwatchtower"]

I can't see how rentals will work either. Unless they give rental copies a special time-expiring key. 

worlock77

I don't think Redbox will be much hurt by this. I mean how much of their business is video games anyway? Gamefly, on the other hand, might be well f*cked.

I do like the fact there is NOT an option. That means every developer will actually take advantage of it and it's fully integrated. alexwatchtower

[QUOTE="worlock77"]

[QUOTE="ThaneKrios28"] im just saying its idiotic to basicly force people to buy something and throw in a crappy thing they dont want . at least with the 360 we had the option to buy or not buy the kinect but having to have one in order for the system itself to function is shittyThaneKrios28

You're not forced to buy the XBOX One. And lots of things come with accessories that the customer may not want. Like my cell phone came with one of those goofy Bluetooth ear sets. I don't want it, I'll never use it, but I'm not bothered by it's inclusion ether.

Lol. Yup, I'm a blind fanboy. I have yet to purchase anything Microsoft's put out in the console market. I've been a unwavering Playstation customer since 1995 though.

Tip: don't make assumptions.

Considering Steam is the leader in the digital marketplace, the face of PC gaming and ridiculously rich and successful I wouldn't worry about that happening anytime soon.GodModeEnabled

Even so Steam aside all of my Physical games work from PC to PC, my point was that on a closed platform this is madness and it works for PC because it is an open platform.GodModeEnabled

[QUOTE="worlock77"]

[QUOTE="ThaneKrios28"] rental places are pretty much extinct where i live meaning block buster hollywood video gamecrazy ect this is really going to damage redbox if you think about itThaneKrios28

I don't think Redbox will be much hurt by this. I mean how much of their business is video games anyway? Gamefly, on the other hand, might be well f*cked.

Sure, their game rentals will take a hit. Obviously. But, again, how much of their business is video games anyway? I've seen like one kiosk of their around here that offered games.

[QUOTE="ThaneKrios28"][QUOTE="worlock77"]

I don't think Redbox will be much hurt by this. I mean how much of their business is video games anyway? Gamefly, on the other hand, might be well f*cked.

worlock77

Sure, their game rentals will take a hit. Obviously. But, again, how much of their business is video games anyway? I've seen like one kiosk of their around here that offered games.

[QUOTE="ThaneKrios28"][QUOTE="worlock77"]

I don't think Redbox will be much hurt by this. I mean how much of their business is video games anyway? Gamefly, on the other hand, might be well f*cked.

worlock77

Sure, their game rentals will take a hit. Obviously. But, again, how much of their business is video games anyway? I've seen like one kiosk of their around here that offered games.

Considering Steam is the leader in the digital marketplace, the face of PC gaming and ridiculously rich and successful I wouldn't worry about that happening anytime soon.GodModeEnabled

Even so Steam aside all of my Physical games work from PC to PC, my point was that on a closed platform this is madness and it works for PC because it is an open platform.GodModeEnabled