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#201 Shame-usBlackley
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Poor Phil Harrison... always showing up with a knife to a gunfight.

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[QUOTE="IndianaPwns39"]

[QUOTE="dvader654"]

 

Harrison:  The disc contains all the bits and data on that game, which you can then give to your friend, and they can then install it on their Xbox One. No restriction on that, except that the second person obviously has to pay for it.

 

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Isn't the second person having to pay for it the very definition of a restriction?

He is talking specifically about restrictions on where you source the game install (physically or via download). Having both options would be be beneficial for people with slower connections or data-caps as they would only have to download they key rather than the entire game.

No I know and I admit my initial reply was poorly worded but what you're saying isn't what I'm talking about.

He literally just explained how there aren't restrictions, you have options, and then casually throws in that if you borrow a physical copy from a friend or something that you'd obviously have to pay a fee.

The very reason Eurogamer interviewed him, he denies it and then immediately confirms it. I just thought it was really funny.

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OMG! Now Phil is saying Xbox One has to be connected online at least once every 24 hours. HOLY CRAP! ALways ONLINE! Adam Orth you were right!

Kotaku: If Im playing a single player game, do I have to be online at least once per hour or something like that? Or can I go weeks and weeks?

Harrison: I believe its 24 hours.

Kotaku: Id have to connect online once every day.

Harrison: Correct.S0lidSnake

Wow! So all the shlt was true...

Like I said, where there's smoke there's fire. No way do so many people from different sources all get something so unanimously wrong.

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#204 c_rakestraw  Moderator
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Well. On the plus side, I don't see how this console can sound any worse, at the moment. So it can only get better from here, right?

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#205 S0lidSnake
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For the new page:

Xbox ONe Needs to be online at least once a day. Always Online? No. but ONlien every 24 hours.

Kotaku: If Im playing a single player game, do I have to be online at least once per hour or something like that? Or can I go weeks and weeks?

Harrison: I believe its 24 hours.

Kotaku: Id have to connect online once every day.

Harrison: Correct.
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#206 Shame-usBlackley
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The other thing to consider is this: 

The price still hasn't been announced. I think if they go a penny over $399 with this thinkg, they are dead. Well, I think they're dead anyway, but it will take a lot longer at $399. :P

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#207 deactivated-5b19c359a3789
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Poor Phil Harrison... always showing up with a knife to a gunfight.

Shame-usBlackley

Poor Phil Harrison for having to do PR for this company in this industry.

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#208 fl4tlined
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Maybe not always online, but usually online...

[QUOTE="Kotaku"]

Kotaku: If Im playing a single player game, do I have to be online at least once per hour or something like that? Or can I go weeks and weeks?

Harrison: I believe its 24 hours.

Kotaku: Id have to connect online once every day.

Harrison: Correct

rragnaar

and that was the sound of microsoft games taking it's last sad farewell breath before racing off the cliff to commit suicide...
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Well. On the plus side, I don't see how this console can sound any worse, at the moment. So it can only get better from here, right?

c_rake

Don Fvcking Mattrick.

It can get worse. Much worse. Entire division's been taken over by space monkeys.

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#210 deactivated-5b19c359a3789
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Well. On the plus side, I don't see how this console can sound any worse, at the moment. So it can only get better from here, right?

c_rake

Mmm.. nope. Because now we have to brace ourselves for the same reveals from Sony.

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[QUOTE="S0lidSnake"]

OMG! Now Phil is saying Xbox One has to be connected online at least once every 24 hours. HOLY CRAP! ALways ONLINE! Adam Orth you were right!

Kotaku: If Im playing a single player game, do I have to be online at least once per hour or something like that? Or can I go weeks and weeks?

Harrison: I believe its 24 hours.

Kotaku: Id have to connect online once every day.

Harrison: Correct.Shame-usBlackley

Wow! So all the shlt was true...

Like I said, where there's smoke there's fire. No way do so many people from different sources all get something so unanimously wrong.

Exactly. People simply refused to believe that Edge,Eurogamer, VG Leaks and all other publications with MULTIPLE sources all corroborating the same story were all 100% wrong. I understand skeptism and not believing in rumors, but the way they dismissed them was pretty f*cking stupid. 

On a side note, Phil Harrison is awesome. It's like he is still working for Sony.  :lol:

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#212 Shame-usBlackley
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[QUOTE="Shame-usBlackley"]

Poor Phil Harrison... always showing up with a knife to a gunfight.

syztem

Poor Phil Harrison for having to do PR for this company in this industry.

Yeah, Phil should get an award or something. First he had to spin the PS3, which was a herculean task by any estimation. Now he has to spin this, which makes spinning the PS3 look like child's play. 

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#213 Hallenbeck77  Moderator
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Well. On the plus side, I don't see how this console can sound any worse, at the moment. So it can only get better from here, right?

c_rake
It's still early in the day, yet. Give it another hour or two.
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Well. On the plus side, I don't see how this console can sound any worse, at the moment. So it can only get better from here, right?

c_rake

There's rumors going around that the $300 subscription version has been scrapped. :P

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Well. On the plus side, I don't see how this console can sound any worse, at the moment. So it can only get better from here, right?

c_rake

I havent even made the BIGGEST thread yet. The only one that should matter. The specs. How powerful the console is. MS is saying they dont even care about power. They didnt even release the specs. Looks like the rumors of a weak console were true. I will make the thread soon. But this is f*cking huge. They are selling us an underpowered console. For an industry leader, thats a shitty thing to do.

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#216 c_rakestraw  Moderator
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On a side note, Phil Harrison is awesome. It's like he is still working for Sony.  :lol:S0lidSnake

That would explain a lot.

It's still early in the day, yet. Give it another hour or two.Hallenbeck77

At this point I'm waiting for them to announce that you have to sell your soul just to buy one of these. Seems like a logical next step.

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My mind is blown. Microsoft just laid Sony a golden egg. Will Sony make it to the finish line with the egg intact or will they trip and smash it before they get there? I don't think I can handle both of them making moves like this.
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#218 c_rakestraw  Moderator
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There's rumors going around that the $300 subscription version has been scrapped. :PBigboi500

Yay?

I havent even made the BIGGEST thread yet. The only one that should matter. The specs. How powerful the console is. MS is saying they dont even care about power. They didnt even release the specs. Looks like the rumors of a weak console were true. I will make the thread soon. But this is f*cking huge. They are selling us an underpowered console. For an industry leader, thats a shitty thing to do.S0lidSnake

How underpowered are we talking here? Microsoft doesn't seem like the type to skip on reasonable specs.

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#219 gpuFX16
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At this point I'm waiting for them to announce that you have to sell your soul just to buy one of these. Seems like a logical next step.

c_rake



Clearly the end times are near, and MS needs souls in order to fuel their engine of calamity. Totally read that in a book somewhere. 

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#220 rragnaar
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[QUOTE="c_rake"]

Well. On the plus side, I don't see how this console can sound any worse, at the moment. So it can only get better from here, right?

S0lidSnake

I havent even made the BIGGEST thread yet. The only one that should matter. The specs. How powerful the console is. MS is saying they dont even care about power. They didnt even release the specs. Looks like the rumors of a weak console were true. I will make the thread soon. But this is f*cking huge. They are selling us an underpowered console. For an industry leader, thats a shitty thing to do.

I don't think the difference is as big as you think it is. For all third party stuff, it won't matter anyway.
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#221 Shame-usBlackley
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HATE the name too. Sounds like a diet drink.

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My mind is blown. Microsoft just laid Sony a golden egg. Will Sony make it to the finish line with the egg intact or will they trip and smash it before they get there? I don't think I can handle both of them making moves like this. N3MO

Publishers won't allow only one of them to make these moves. Even if Sony doesn't have it built into the hardware like MS (which still remains to be seen), publishers will find a way to enforce it from their end. The question is: did Microsoft just justify it for them, or was it going to happen all along regardless?

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#223 JML897
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This console sounds like every gamer's worst fears realized.
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#224 MonoSilver
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HATE the name too. Sounds like a diet drink.

Shame-usBlackley

 

I really don't like the look of it either though that's obviously not important. It just looks very plain and square and reminds me of this:

 

RCA%20DVD-VCR%20Combo.jpg

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[QUOTE="fl4tlined"][QUOTE="Black_Knight_00"][QUOTE="fl4tlined"]but the thing is DD is great because it allows deals like this to happen. Such as indy bundle and other such wonderful ideas.. do you think indy bundle would happen if we did'nt switch to digital? no what about steam and their summer and winter sales? hell no just the production alone would cost tons of money. I mean look at console games do you see the price of disc games go down to much? When you see a sale it's almost always for digital games. When was the last time you saw a giant bundle pack of like 20 games for the price of 80 dollars in physical form? sure theirs always the possibility for something to go wrong but shit i mean i'm sure their will be a next technology that us today will be lambasting that it has a problem and be nostalgic over the good ole digital download days. Maybe lasers who knows.

I generally find physical copies of console games for pretty much the same price of Steam offers, maybe just a bit more. Now indie games, that's a whole different story: I love when I see humble bundles and similar. That said, services go offline eventually, that's the sad catch. That's all I've been saying.

no one will know when and if that will happen.. I mean look at EA and how dickish they are they have been around for more then 20 years i highly doubt we need to worry much about valve going out of business.. and even then i'm sure they will find some sort of solution to this issue. it's like being afraid nuclear war will happen it might, it might not who knows no point in really worrying about it.

I never said valve is going out of business, Steam may go out and be replaced by something else. But maybe not, call me paranoid and let's close this long off topic tangent.
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Clearly the end times are near, and MS needs souls in order to fuel their engine of calamity. Totally read that in a book somewhere. gpuFX16

It's as I said in the other thread during the conference: The Xbox is the beginning of the end -- confirmed. Never imagined a simple joke would prove true, though...

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#227 Shame-usBlackley
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[QUOTE="Shame-usBlackley"]

HATE the name too. Sounds like a diet drink.

MonoSilver

 

I really don't like the look of it either though that's obviously not important. It just looks very plain and square and reminds me of this:

 

RCA%20DVD-VCR%20Combo.jpg

Yeah, it's definitely not going to win any beauty awards either. I like the controller... that's the only positive thing I have to say about the system. 

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At this point I'm waiting for them to announce that you have to sell your soul just to buy one of these. Seems like a logical next step..c_rake
Too simple--they'll require ritual sacrifices of your first, third and fifth born children on alternate Thursdays under a full moon. Oh, and you'll still need an online connection before beginning the ritual.
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I personally like the fact that it's a boring rectangle because in theory that means you can stack it on other things
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[QUOTE="MonoSilver"]

[QUOTE="Shame-usBlackley"]

HATE the name too. Sounds like a diet drink.

Shame-usBlackley

 

I really don't like the look of it either though that's obviously not important. It just looks very plain and square and reminds me of this:

 

RCA%20DVD-VCR%20Combo.jpg

Yeah, it's definitely not going to win any beauty awards either. I like the controller... that's the only positive thing I have to say about the system. 

Positive column:
1) New D-pad
2) ...New D-pad

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A friend of mine raised a nice point: the new xbox is gigantic, can you imagine how noisy it must be?

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#232 fl4tlined
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this is the sound i made when i read the console had to be online http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dOiE0LCu6J0
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#233 JML897
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[QUOTE="c_rake"]At this point I'm waiting for them to announce that you have to sell your soul just to buy one of these. Seems like a logical next step..Hallenbeck77
Too simple--they'll require ritual sacrifices of your first, third and fifth born children on alternate Thursdays under a full moon. Oh, and you'll still need an online connection before beginning the ritual.

Wait was this just confirmed? That's way overboard imo
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I personally like the fact that it's a boring rectangle because in theory that means you can stack it on other thingsJML897

It's the successor to the 360... I wouldn't put it near anything. In fact, I'd pump oxygen into the cabinet if I owned one. 

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[QUOTE="JML897"]I personally like the fact that it's a boring rectangle because in theory that means you can stack it on other thingsShame-usBlackley

It's the successor to the 360... I wouldn't put it near anything. In fact, I'd pump oxygen into the cabinet if I owned one. 

Well yeah, that's why I said "in theory" :P
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[QUOTE="N3MO"]My mind is blown. Microsoft just laid Sony a golden egg. Will Sony make it to the finish line with the egg intact or will they trip and smash it before they get there? I don't think I can handle both of them making moves like this. syztem

Publishers won't allow only one of them to make these moves. Even if Sony doesn't have it built into the hardware like MS (which still remains to be seen), publishers will find a way to enforce it from their end. The question is: did Microsoft just justify it for them, or was it going to happen all along regardless?

Sony already mentioned that stuff like this is left up to the publisher. I think MS is doing this to get the entire cut of the used game market for the Xbox One. Can't say that is entirely wrong but this method limits how customers can use their games. Its an anti-costumer move through and through.
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I personally like the fact that it's a boring rectangle because in theory that means you can stack it on other thingsJML897
Or use it as an aid to reach things on a higher shelf.
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#238 fl4tlined
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[QUOTE="Black_Knight_00"][QUOTE="fl4tlined"][QUOTE="Black_Knight_00"] I generally find physical copies of console games for pretty much the same price of Steam offers, maybe just a bit more. Now indie games, that's a whole different story: I love when I see humble bundles and similar. That said, services go offline eventually, that's the sad catch. That's all I've been saying.

no one will know when and if that will happen.. I mean look at EA and how dickish they are they have been around for more then 20 years i highly doubt we need to worry much about valve going out of business.. and even then i'm sure they will find some sort of solution to this issue. it's like being afraid nuclear war will happen it might, it might not who knows no point in really worrying about it.

I never said valve is going out of business, Steam may go out and be replaced by something else. But maybe not, call me paranoid and let's close this long off topic tangent.

I agree also holy crap this news is depressing...
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#239 c_rakestraw  Moderator
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Too simple--they'll require ritual sacrifices of your first, third and fifth born children on alternate Thursdays under a full moon. Oh, and you'll still need an online connection before beginning the ritual.Hallenbeck77

Also: any friends you bring along have to pay an additional $60 to even start the ritual (in addition to your own down-payment). Because why not.

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[QUOTE="Hallenbeck77"][QUOTE="c_rake"]At this point I'm waiting for them to announce that you have to sell your soul just to buy one of these. Seems like a logical next step..JML897
Too simple--they'll require ritual sacrifices of your first, third and fifth born children on alternate Thursdays under a full moon. Oh, and you'll still need an online connection before beginning the ritual.

Wait was this just confirmed? That's way overboard imo

What are you, a pirate? This is all so that those dirty hacker thieves don't win.

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A friend of mine raised a nice point: the new xbox is gigantic, can you imagine how noisy it must be?

Black_Knight_00
It also doesn't have an external power brick from what I've heard, which means the thing will also probably get pretty hot pretty quickly.
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I agree also holy crap this news is depressing...fl4tlined
The used games block thing? It is depressing. It's also funny in a hysterical, insane sort of way. I hope people are smart enough not to buy this xbox. Although any industry does need competirton to remain advantageous for us the consumers.

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[QUOTE="Bigboi500"]There's rumors going around that the $300 subscription version has been scrapped. :Pc_rake

Yay?

I havent even made the BIGGEST thread yet. The only one that should matter. The specs. How powerful the console is. MS is saying they dont even care about power. They didnt even release the specs. Looks like the rumors of a weak console were true. I will make the thread soon. But this is f*cking huge. They are selling us an underpowered console. For an industry leader, thats a shitty thing to do.S0lidSnake

How underpowered are we talking here? Microsoft doesn't seem like the type to skip on reasonable specs.

Read the other thread i just posted. They did exactly that. Putting Kinect in every console was always going to increase the costs. They chose Kinect over high end graphics. 

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#244 fl4tlined
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[QUOTE="fl4tlined"]I agree also holy crap this news is depressing...Black_Knight_00

The used games block thing? It is depressing. It's also funny in a hysterical, insane sort of way. I hope people are smart enough not to buy this xbox. Although any industry does need competirton to remain advantageous for us the consumers.

I mean i already have a wii u but man I hope E3 brings some new games.. It's sad a year ago this news would have made me incredibly pissed.. but now i just don't care anymore..
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#246 UpInFlames
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I generally find physical copies of console games for pretty much the same price of Steam offers, maybe just a bit more.Black_Knight_00

Ok, I have to call you out on this. We're from the same region and this is just impossible. Right now Steam is offering Dead Space for 2,49 euros and Dead Space 2 for 7,49 euros.

If you can find me a place that's offering console versions of these games for anywhere near that price, well give me links because I'll definitely be buying some console games there myself.

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#247 gpuFX16
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[QUOTE="fl4tlined"]I agree also holy crap this news is depressing...Black_Knight_00

The used games block thing? It is depressing. It's also funny in a hysterical, insane sort of way. I hope people are smart enough not to buy this xbox. Although any industry does need competirton to remain advantageous for us the consumers.



So I'm not the only one who's laughing it up. Thanks for that. It's just such disatrous news that it's also amusing all the same. 

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#249 Black_Knight_00
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[QUOTE="Black_Knight_00"]I generally find physical copies of console games for pretty much the same price of Steam offers, maybe just a bit more.UpInFlames

Ok, I have to call you out on this. We're from the same region and this is just impossible. Right now Steam is offering Dead Space for 2,49 euros and Dead Space 2 for 7,49 euros.

If you can find me a place that's offering console versions of these games for anywhere near that price, well give me links because I'll definitely be buying some console games there myself.

Friends of mine have bought Dead Space for £0,98 last year on GAME.co.uk. I've bought a mountain of games for the same price in the same sale. Dead Space 2 i got for 19euro a couple months after release and I've often seen it for 10 bucks.

Zavvi sells new games and the average price for a 6 months old game is 15-18euro

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#250 rragnaar
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There is such an overwhelming backlash from the community.  Nearly everything I've read from here and GAF is negative.  I have to think that some of these policies will change between now and the launch.  Excuse me, I mean their PR people will backpeddle and try to convince us that these policies were never in place to begin with.