The Conduit Discussion Thread(56k): Tons of New IGN Screens

I agree that they have a ways to go, but you sure did pick out the wrong screens to demonstrate that point!Emmenite7

By far the biggest issue with The Conduit's graphics is the environment detail, or lack thereof. I specifically picked out that Metroid Prime 3 screenshot to demonstrate the difference in that specific area and to show what that extra mile of spit and polish could do for that game.

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[QUOTE="randomguy15"]It could it end up doing very well, or very bad. But I'm not seeing much more than environments and shooting. What's the rest of the game?Emmenite7

Well that's definitely a valid question, but it's up to them to give us that stuff... all we have to go on is the videos that they give us, and as of right now, all we can do is speculate as far as that goes.

That game is beautiful!!!!!!!SteveXLR

Given that the guys at High Voltage openly said that it was going to be the best-looking game on the Wii, I think they've kind of got a ways to go.

yeah...to me. The Conduit vs. MP3= Conduit 4 da win. (in these screens). I think this game will turn out better looking then we expect. Again, I'm not hoping for a miracle, but I think it will look better than MP3 graphically. I'm not saying it will look better art direction/ elegance wise....but in terms of shinniness I guess. MP3 didn't look better imo compared to the previous installments

[QUOTE="Darth-Samus"]Sweet! Looks amazing as always!GabuEx

What criteria are people using when they say this?

Not to pick on anyone; I just don't get it - the video is all pixelated, the guys just stand there while shooting you... what about it looks amazing?

The Criteria that every average gamer has, downloaded into our brains..

We're just robots... Every person is the same and nobody has their own opinion on what looks good to them.

The Criteria that every average gamer has downloaded into our brains..

We're just robots... Every person is the same and nobody has their own opinion on what looks good to them.

slimdave21

While there's obviously no accounting for taste, I think there's evidently certain objective standards of graphical quality, such that everyone looking at, say, this picture would agree that the game in question looks graphically terrible.

I'm not asking that question in an attempt to play "gotcha"; I'm honestly curious what people see in the gameplay video that I'm evidently not seeing.

[QUOTE="Darth-Samus"]Sweet! Looks amazing as always!GabuEx

What criteria are people using when they say this?

Not to pick on anyone; I just don't get it - the video is all pixelated, the guys just stand there while shooting you... what about it looks amazing?

[QUOTE="slimdave21"]

The Criteria that every average gamer has downloaded into our brains..

We're just robots... Every person is the same and nobody has their own opinion on what looks good to them.

GabuEx

While there's obviously no accounting for taste, I think there's evidently certain objective standards of graphical quality, such that everyone looking at, say, this picture would agree that the game in question looks graphically terrible.

I'm not asking that question in an attempt to play "gotcha"; I'm honestly curious what people see in the gameplay video that I'm evidently not seeing.

lmao....a decent looking PS2 character model, and N64 back grounds and textures for back grounds. So that's the infamous Anubis II huh?

[QUOTE="Emmenite7"]I agree that they have a ways to go, but you sure did pick out the wrong screens to demonstrate that point!GabuEx

By far the biggest issue with The Conduit's graphics is the environment detail, or lack thereof. I specifically picked out that Metroid Prime 3 screenshot to demonstrate the difference in that specific area and to show what that extra mile of spit and polish could do for that game.

Back to the screenshots though, I understand the point you're trying to make but that shot of Metroid simply doesn't do the game justice. Heck, your example of the Conduit has some impressive lighting effects and no ugly close-up textures. If some random non-gamer had to decide which game had better graphics based of those screens, I bet they'd choose the Conduit. Anways, I'm starting to think that even Red Steel looks better!

You know, a lot of screenshots and videos of games look really bad on the web, but when you actually play the game they look a lot better.Chojuto

[QUOTE="Chojuto"]You know, a lot of screenshots and videos of games look really bad on the web, but when you actually play the game they look a lot better.air_wolf_cubed

And when did he say he did?

Here's some screens from Red Steel and The Conduit for those who care. Keep in mind that it's hard to judge based on only one screen, and even screens don't speak as loudly as actual footage does. I tried my best to get the best shots I could find for each game, so tell me what you think!

You know, a lot of screenshots and videos of games look really bad on the web, but when you actually play the game they look a lot better.Chojuto

I agree with this comment, screenshots can be misleading.

BAD art direction = teh megaton Failurez

Conduit = horrible art direction

therefore, Conduit = teh megaton Failurez....

understand now ppl.....

also the gameplay looks bland, generic, unpolished, and overall FAILS

BAD art direction = teh megaton Failurez

Conduit = horrible art direction

therefore, Conduit = teh megaton Failurez....

understand now ppl.....

also the gameplay looks bland, generic, unpolished, and overall FAILS

Ironre5

God, we already have Ubisoft sticking Z's where they don't belong. You don't need to follow their lead and add to the horror that is Petz!

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BAD art direction = teh megaton Failurez

Conduit = horrible art direction

therefore, Conduit = teh megaton Failurez....

understand now ppl.....

also the gameplay looks bland, generic, unpolished, and overall FAILS

clicketyclick

God, we already have Ubisoft sticking Z's where they don't belong. You don't need to follow their lead and add to the horror that is Petz!

actually i do.....

[QUOTE="air_wolf_cubed"][QUOTE="Chojuto"]You know, a lot of screenshots and videos of games look really bad on the web, but when you actually play the game they look a lot better.clicketyclick

And when did he say he did?

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[QUOTE="air_wolf_cubed"][QUOTE="Chojuto"]You know, a lot of screenshots and videos of games look really bad on the web, but when you actually play the game they look a lot better.air_wolf_cubed

And when did he say he did?

Past experience.

You know, a lot of screenshots and videos of games look really bad on the web, but when you actually play the game they look a lot better.Chojuto

Oh, absolutely. I'll be attending PAX in a week (I live in Washington, why not?), and this game is definitely one I'll be interested in checking out while there.

Eh, to be honest, I don't know what people see in these trailers. The graphics, which were supposed to be one of the game's strongest points, are just looking bad right now. The videos are all pixelated, the environments are boring, the guns are okay (although the shotgun isn't very good), the human character models don't look very good (and the AI seems to currently suck pretty badly as well right now)... I just can't understand where people get their "8.0 minimum" optimism here. The game has potential, but right now I can honestly say that it needs some serious work to get up to that AA-AAA level.GabuEx

Couldn't have said it any better myself.

Here's some screens from Red Steel and The Conduit for those who care. Keep in mind that it's hard to judge based on only one screen, and even screens don't speak as loudly as actual footage does. I tried my best to get the best shots I could find for each game, so tell me what you think!

Emmenite7

those RS pics were the most mis-leading images I have ever saw in my entire life!!! They were (are) so hi-res compared to the actual game, it's ridiculous. I never beat RS, but I can def say that game never looked that good, even with component cables. TP had alot of mis-leading game pics as well before that came out.

Here's some screens from Red Steel and The Conduit for those who care. Keep in mind that it's hard to judge based on only one screen, and even screens don't speak as loudly as actual footage does. I tried my best to get the best shots I could find for each game, so tell me what you think!

Emmenite7

[QUOTE="Chojuto"]You know, a lot of screenshots and videos of games look really bad on the web, but when you actually play the game they look a lot better.GabuEx

Oh, absolutely. I'll be attending PAX in a week (I live in Washington, why not?), and this game is definitely one I'll be interested in checking out while there.

really? can you give us a preview?

really? can you give us a preview?

legend26

I might be coerced to share what I see there if you ask reaaaally nicely... ;)

Nah, but seriously, I'll let you know what I think.

Eh, to be honest, I don't know what people see in these trailers. The graphics, which were supposed to be one of the game's strongest points, are just looking bad right now. The videos are all pixelated, the environments are boring, the guns are okay (although the shotgun isn't very good), the human character models don't look very good (and the AI seems to currently suck pretty badly as well right now)... I just can't understand where people get their "8.0 minimum" optimism here. The game has potential, but right now I can honestly say that it needs some serious work to get up to that AA-AAA level.GabuEx

i have to agree 100 percent the last couple of trailers were way better than this and i mean way better. very dissappointed

lmao

you guys are making a big deal out of nothing. As someone else stated...why would we have already seen better looking in game footage, and compare it to this "mild looking" version of the game? This probably is the most "non intelligent" arguement some of you have came up with in a while imo.

This is obviously the most low res clip we have ever seen of the game to date. Especially with all those awards listed at the end, I can't even begin to comprehend why any one would dout this game's potential.

to all of you stating this game will phail...it very well could. That's not my arguement here, so please don't respond by stating the obvious (if it does indeed happen)

you guys are making a big deal out of nothing. As someone else stated...why would we have already seen better looking in game footage, and compare it to this "mild looking" version of the game? This probably is the most "non intelligent" arguement some of you have came up with in a while imo.

danger_ranger95

no no omg it truly is devolving RIGHT BEFORE OUR EYYYYYESSS!!!!!

Next week, it will be a 2D side-scroller.

Im buying this game day 1 because of the effort High Voltage put into the game. The resolution of the video wasnt 480 it was 180 therefore it doesnt look half as good but im sure the game will look better than any other game on the wii like ign said at E3 people thought it was a 360 game as they walked pass. im pretty sure it will control tight because it supports customizable controls down to even mapping certain things to gestures. Im not going to put the game off because of one video and FYI the game doesnt release until 2009 plenty of time for improvement. I know I knowHold the applause Ladies and Gentlemen

as far as i can tell the game is better then red steel already so its purchase for meScythes777

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you guys are making a big deal out of nothing. As someone else stated...why would we have already seen better looking in game footage, and compare it to this "mild looking" version of the game? This probably is the most "non intelligent" arguement some of you have came up with in a while imo.

clicketyclick

no no omg it truly is devolving RIGHT BEFORE OUR EYYYYYESSS!!!!!

Next week, it will be a 2D side-scroller.

That would be an improvement.

[QUOTE="clicketyclick"][QUOTE="danger_ranger95"]

you guys are making a big deal out of nothing. As someone else stated...why would we have already seen better looking in game footage, and compare it to this "mild looking" version of the game? This probably is the most "non intelligent" arguement some of you have came up with in a while imo.

Wintry_Flutist

no no omg it truly is devolving RIGHT BEFORE OUR EYYYYYESSS!!!!!

Next week, it will be a 2D side-scroller.

That would be an improvement.

As long as it has moar lens flare.

No doubt IGN would still insist that it looks like a 360 game.

guy just stop hyping the conduit...its gonna PHAILIronre5

Because you previewed at E3 right :roll:.

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[QUOTE="randomguy15"]It could it end up doing very well, or very bad. But I'm not seeing much more than environments and shooting. What's the rest of the game?Emmenite7

Well that's definitely a valid question, but it's up to them to give us that stuff... all we have to go on is the videos that they give us, and as of right now, all we can do is speculate as far as that goes.

That game is beautiful!!!!!!!SteveXLR

Given that the guys at High Voltage openly said that it was going to be the best-looking game on the Wii, I think they've kind of got a ways to go.

Agreed technically the resolution nd textures of Conduit look superior to MP3, and I own MP3 which is in actuality a great looking game. So funny enough if this screenshot holds true when the Conduit is finished then this is going to be one of the best looking Wii games ever.

[QUOTE="randomguy15"]So point blank, this game is over hyped?GabuEx

At this point, I definitely would have to say that those predicting scores in the upper 8s and 9s don't have much of a logical basis to do so besides speculation on what the game could become between now and its release.

Neither those who predict a score of 7.0 or less, have any logical base to predict this before the game is out.

[QUOTE="Emmenite7"]

Here's some screens from Red Steel and The Conduit for those who care. Keep in mind that it's hard to judge based on only one screen, and even screens don't speak as loudly as actual footage does. I tried my best to get the best shots I could find for each game, so tell me what you think!

legend26

I've completed Red Steel multiple times (I actually really like it) and the game is incredibly inconsistent graphically. You can walk through a beautiful environment with great water effects and lighting, and then go into an elevator to see an ugly as hell N64 quality texture smeared across the wall. IMO when Red Steel looks its best, it is one of the best looking Wii games.

I've completed Red Steel multiple times (I actually really like it) and the game is incredibly inconsistent graphically. You can walk through a beautiful environment with great water effects and lighting, and then go into an elevator to see an ugly as hell N64 quality texture smeared across the wall. IMO when Red Steel looks its best, it is one of the best looking Wii games.manicfoot

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[QUOTE="randomguy15"]So point blank, this game is over hyped?komdosina

At this point, I definitely would have to say that those predicting scores in the upper 8s and 9s don't have much of a logical basis to do so besides speculation on what the game could become between now and its release.

Neither those who predict a score of 7.0 or less, have any logical base to predict this before the game is out.

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[QUOTE="randomguy15"]So point blank, this game is over hyped?JLF1

At this point, I definitely would have to say that those predicting scores in the upper 8s and 9s don't have much of a logical basis to do so besides speculation on what the game could become between now and its release.

Neither those who predict a score of 7.0 or less, have any logical base to predict this before the game is out.

[QUOTE="manicfoot"]I've completed Red Steel multiple times (I actually really like it) and the game is incredibly inconsistent graphically. You can walk through a beautiful environment with great water effects and lighting, and then go into an elevator to see an ugly as hell N64 quality texture smeared across the wall. IMO when Red Steel looks its best, it is one of the best looking Wii games.air_wolf_cubed

Heh :) I think its so bad its good. It has this strange charm to it. So yeah, its like eating dog crap, but its dog crap that tastes like ice cream covered in golden syrup and tells you jokes while you eat it. At the end of the day you're still eating dog crap, but its damn good dog crap.

Alright, I just had to say that, five pages later, I'm quite glad to see that I am not infact the only one that thought this trailer looked worse than the previous ones. Thank you to everyone with eyes.

this game has gone from looking crap to looking good to looking crap.

But I know why. The video quality sucks.

[QUOTE="GabuEx"][QUOTE="Emmenite7"]

Is it just me or did this game look better in the batch of videos released before E3?

clicketyclick

I had the same thought, actually. I was beginning to get optimistic for the game's direction in the E3 videos, but this new video seems like a regression.

The video is not "HD". It's not in 480p. The rest are. Mystery solved.

this.

puzzle solving with the ASE, fully customizable controls, and online play + voice chat (and no friend codes). Plus all the positive previews and multiple awards and runner ups it gotair_wolf_cubed