The Conduit Discussion Thread(56k): Tons of New IGN Screens

The enviroments in this trailer DO look much more bland than the other ones. But look at the names of the others. All the others are in hd. Even a computer without hd capabilities will have it shown with a better quality. This is the only video not shown in hd, which means that it is not showing at the games true quality, which means this trailer is not the best indicator of the conduit's graphical potential.

overall its a big improvement from the vid in april and its also a little step up from e3 now imho (at E3, the game was overly brown in that street scene....its lookin better now). from a technical standpoint its doinf an awful lot of things well. even nice little details like the shiny shader effect on the wood floor (just one of a load of examples). good to see. from a technical standpoint..it looks to be a step up from MP3 (MP3 beats it on art direction) and is quite close to galaxy with what its pulling off.

so the engine seems to be doing the business. but the game is still suffering from an art problem imho. its a big improvement from the april vid but its not consistent. the aliens look pretty good (especially that big green one) but the humans, not so much. the alien weapons also look nice, but the earth ones..they need a bit of work. animation is good for the most part mind..it just needs to be tidied up a bit (the death animation for the big green alien in particualr lacked umph)

the AI also looks a bit silly. maybe its just the easy setting causing that but at one stage in that vid, the AI just seemed to stop.

alien weapon sound effects also need work. they sound like the "pew pew" sound i made as a kid when shooting a pretend laser gun.

on a positive note though the controls look spot on. i dont think they will cause many problems for MP3 or MOH:H2 vets. the game also looks like a good run and gun shooter. im not expecting a deus ex here. the conduit looks to be strictly leave ure brain at the door stuff. but if HV deliver a good looking shooter that has great controls and enjoyable content then ill be happy. thatll be a step up from every other 3rd party shooter on wii. if it brings good online play with voice coms then all the better.

with around 8 months to go (assuming there releasing around april), theres plenty of time to iron out the kinks and get it all tidied up. im not going to hype it a particular score but i think the conduit will be the best 3rd party FPS on wii when its released.

UGH...everyone on this board putting this game down disgusts me you guys are expecting WAY to much here...compared to other FPS's on the wii (excluding MP3 of course) this game is freakin gold the story seems ok...the graphics are pretty good (for the wii, but seriously, what more did u expect?)...it looks like it has some nice gameplay...and it has online multiplayer that SUPPORTS WII SPEAK the online component WITH wii speak makes this game and instant buy for me....sure there is other FPS game out there with online, but they're stupid cause it feels as if ur just playing against the computer when no one is talking (especially in super smash, even though that's not an FPS, just stating) also this game kinda reminds me of perfect dark, so i like it you guys' expectations are just sky high for this game it's all the wii has got and is getting for quite awhile in terms of FPS's with online support...so enjoy it, if not...your lossfiercedeity901

We're expecting way too much because the developers made us think that way, they said that the game will look almost as ps3/x360 games, it is not our fault, but ok, if this is not an hd video and it doesn't show the game in its true form, ok, i remember watching the second gameplay video (guys on IGN named it this footage makes us believe) i was like WOW...

I hope ths game PHAIIIIIILS miserably in the gameplay department (it already has in the gphx department), and i also hope all you desperate wii owners, who havent played a FPS before, and have no clue what a good FPS is, buys this excuse for a FPS....and then waste your money....and when the day comes that this POS gets a 7 or lower....then ill wait for all you guys to realise how stupid youll were to be hyping this crapfest

I hope ths game PHAIIIIIILS miserably in the gameplay department (it already has in the gphx department), and i also hope all you desperate wii owners, who havent played a FPS before, and have no clue what a good FPS is, buys this excuse for a FPS....and then waste your money....and when the day comes that this POS gets a 7 or lower....then ill wait for all you guys to realise how stupid youll were to be hyping this crapfest

Ironre5

I don't understand why people say stuff like that. As a gamer, I'd like all games to be top notch. More stuff to play.

Anyway...

The environs are kinda bland, but the game seems to be full of features. If it plays decently, I'm getting it. I've wanted to play another FPS on Wii for a while.

[QUOTE="Ironre5"]

I hope ths game PHAIIIIIILS miserably in the gameplay department (it already has in the gphx department), and i also hope all you desperate wii owners, who havent played a FPS before, and have no clue what a good FPS is, buys this excuse for a FPS....and then waste your money....and when the day comes that this POS gets a 7 or lower....then ill wait for all you guys to realise how stupid youll were to be hyping this crapfest

lucidflux

I don't understand why people say stuff like that. As a gamer, I'd like all games to be top notch. More stuff to play.

Anyway...

The environs are kinda bland, but the game seems to be full of features. If it plays decently, I'm getting it. I've wanted to play another FPS on Wii for a while.

well so far this game looks like crap...and evryone thinks its good cos they havent played an FPS before (thats my only explanation as to why ppl would hype this POS)...and i kno this game is gonna phail...y you ask? cos ive seen videos and it looks boring...the puzzles so far look dumb, the gameplay and animations dont look fluid at all....the enemy AI looks bad...and much much more....

well so far this game looks like crap...and evryone thinks its good cos they havent played an FPS before (thats my only explanation as to why ppl would hype this POS)...and i kno this game is gonna phail...y you ask? cos ive seen videos and it looks boring...the puzzles so far look dumb, the gameplay and animations dont look fluid at all....the enemy AI looks bad...and much much more....

Ironre5

Maybe people just want a good FPS on the Wii. Personally, I'm not hyping it, nor do I really hype anything...

As for looks, it seems that they have the guns and aliens pretty well in place, but the people and environs could use a good bit of work.

I get the feeling that we'll never get a clear picture of how the game works from videos until right before it comes out. More than other games, these videos show a work in progress. Go back to the old videos and take a look.

To reiterate, I don't want any games to fail. Don't know why anyone would want that. Insight on that one?

Maybe people just want a good FPS on the Wii. Personally, I'm not hyping it, nor do I really hype anything...

As for looks, it seems that they have the guns and aliens pretty well in place, but the people and environs could use a good bit of work.

I get the feeling that we'll never get a clear picture of how the game works from videos until right before it comes out. More than other games, these videos show a work in progress. Go back to the old videos and take a look.

To reiterate, I don't want any games to fail. Don't know why anyone would want that. Insight on that one?

lucidflux

i want this game to Phail cos its getting recognition it doesnt deserve from the wii community....the art style is so BAD, yet everyone thinks the graphics are good, just cos some PR dude from HVS said its good....who cares abt spcular lighting, normal and bump mapping etc, when your game has bad art to begin with....art is the foundation for graphics..and when you dont have that, you dont have good graphics.......also being a veteran FPS player, i can easily say that this game isnt near the standards games like half life, halo 1, COD, Doom, Quake, Unreal, etc are, and yet its getting as good of a recognition as those games.......i would gladly pay 60 bucks for those games, but the conduit is charging 50 bucks for something that isnt worth even 30 bucks.....lame...if the conduit were 20 bucks i would have bought it........

i guess wii owners havent played enough FPS games to know what a quality FPS should be like.....its like the conduit is their first FPS game, so naturally they dont know how much better it needs to be......go play Half life 2 and then tell me the conduit looks amazin (gameplay and graphics wise)

[QUOTE="lucidflux"][QUOTE="Ironre5"]

I hope ths game PHAIIIIIILS miserably in the gameplay department (it already has in the gphx department), and i also hope all you desperate wii owners, who havent played a FPS before, and have no clue what a good FPS is, buys this excuse for a FPS....and then waste your money....and when the day comes that this POS gets a 7 or lower....then ill wait for all you guys to realise how stupid youll were to be hyping this crapfest

Ironre5

I don't understand why people say stuff like that. As a gamer, I'd like all games to be top notch. More stuff to play.

Anyway...

The environs are kinda bland, but the game seems to be full of features. If it plays decently, I'm getting it. I've wanted to play another FPS on Wii for a while.

well so far this game looks like crap...and evryone thinks its good cos they havent played an FPS before (thats my only explanation as to why ppl would hype this POS)...and i kno this game is gonna phail...y you ask? cos ive seen videos and it looks boring...the puzzles so far look dumb, the gameplay and animations dont look fluid at all....the enemy AI looks bad...and much much more....

i thought you said you played the game;)

admit it, the only reason your here is to troll

[QUOTE="fiercedeity901"]UGH...everyone on this board putting this game down disgusts me you guys are expecting WAY to much here...compared to other FPS's on the wii (excluding MP3 of course) this game is freakin gold the story seems ok...the graphics are pretty good (for the wii, but seriously, what more did u expect?)...it looks like it has some nice gameplay...and it has online multiplayer that SUPPORTS WII SPEAK the online component WITH wii speak makes this game and instant buy for me....sure there is other FPS game out there with online, but they're stupid cause it feels as if ur just playing against the computer when no one is talking (especially in super smash, even though that's not an FPS, just stating) also this game kinda reminds me of perfect dark, so i like it you guys' expectations are just sky high for this game it's all the wii has got and is getting for quite awhile in terms of FPS's with online support...so enjoy it, if not...your lossbusak

We're expecting way too much because the developers made us think that way, they said that the game will look almost as ps3/x360 games, it is not our fault, but ok, if this is not an hd video and it doesn't show the game in its true form, ok, i remember watching the second gameplay video (guys on IGN named it this footage makes us believe) i was like WOW...

[QUOTE="lucidflux"]

Maybe people just want a good FPS on the Wii. Personally, I'm not hyping it, nor do I really hype anything...

As for looks, it seems that they have the guns and aliens pretty well in place, but the people and environs could use a good bit of work.

I get the feeling that we'll never get a clear picture of how the game works from videos until right before it comes out. More than other games, these videos show a work in progress. Go back to the old videos and take a look.

To reiterate, I don't want any games to fail. Don't know why anyone would want that. Insight on that one?

Ironre5

i want this game to Phail cos its getting recognition it doesnt deserve from the wii community....the art style is so BAD, yet everyone thinks the graphics are good, just cos some PR dude from HVS said its good....who cares abt spcular lighting, normal and bump mapping etc, when your game has bad art to begin with....art is the foundation for graphics..and when you dont have that, you dont have good graphics.......also being a veteran FPS player, i can easily say that this game isnt near the standards games like half life, halo 1, COD, Doom, Quake, Unreal, etc are, and yet its getting as good of a recognition as those games.......i would gladly pay 60 bucks for those games, but the conduit is charging 50 bucks for something that isnt worth even 30 bucks.....lame...if the conduit were 20 bucks i would have bought it........

i guess wii owners havent played enough FPS games to know what a quality FPS should be like.....its like the conduit is their first FPS game, so naturally they dont know how much better it needs to be......go play Half life 2 and then tell me the conduit looks amazin (gameplay and graphics wise)

[QUOTE="Ironre5"][QUOTE="lucidflux"]

Maybe people just want a good FPS on the Wii. Personally, I'm not hyping it, nor do I really hype anything...

As for looks, it seems that they have the guns and aliens pretty well in place, but the people and environs could use a good bit of work.

I get the feeling that we'll never get a clear picture of how the game works from videos until right before it comes out. More than other games, these videos show a work in progress. Go back to the old videos and take a look.

To reiterate, I don't want any games to fail. Don't know why anyone would want that. Insight on that one?

fiercedeity901

i want this game to Phail cos its getting recognition it doesnt deserve from the wii community....the art style is so BAD, yet everyone thinks the graphics are good, just cos some PR dude from HVS said its good....who cares abt spcular lighting, normal and bump mapping etc, when your game has bad art to begin with....art is the foundation for graphics..and when you dont have that, you dont have good graphics.......also being a veteran FPS player, i can easily say that this game isnt near the standards games like half life, halo 1, COD, Doom, Quake, Unreal, etc are, and yet its getting as good of a recognition as those games.......i would gladly pay 60 bucks for those games, but the conduit is charging 50 bucks for something that isnt worth even 30 bucks.....lame...if the conduit were 20 bucks i would have bought it........

i guess wii owners havent played enough FPS games to know what a quality FPS should be like.....its like the conduit is their first FPS game, so naturally they dont know how much better it needs to be......go play Half life 2 and then tell me the conduit looks amazin (gameplay and graphics wise)

just because its the only thing the wii has, doesnt make it good....its like saying if theres no food to eat, eating wood to survive is enjoyable.....itll be tolerable, but not enjoyable

[QUOTE="Ironre5"]

well so far this game looks like crap...and evryone thinks its good cos they havent played an FPS before (thats my only explanation as to why ppl would hype this POS)...and i kno this game is gonna phail...y you ask? cos ive seen videos and it looks boring...the puzzles so far look dumb, the gameplay and animations dont look fluid at all....the enemy AI looks bad...and much much more....

legend26

i thought you said you played the game;)

admit it, the only reason your here is to troll

wth are you talking abt...i never said i didnt play the game.....i only mentioned that i played the game in the other thread, cos you accused me of not playing the game...for my arguments on this thread, what i said was enough...if anyone here accuses me of not playing the game, ill mention that ive played it..until then the fact that the vids itself look crappy will be enough...

Dont even try reasoning with ironre5. He was sent here by Ubisoft with the sole purpose to hate this gameair_wolf_cubed

i was sent here by Quality Control Squad to warn ppl about bad games...

[QUOTE="air_wolf_cubed"]Dont even try reasoning with ironre5. He was sent here by Ubisoft with the sole purpose to hate this gameIronre5

i was sent here by Quality Control Squad to warn ppl about bad games...

[QUOTE="Ironre5"]

[QUOTE="air_wolf_cubed"]Dont even try reasoning with ironre5. He was sent here by Ubisoft with the sole purpose to hate this gameair_wolf_cubed

i was sent here by Quality Control Squad to warn ppl about bad games...

i actually have played this game at E3, my uncle is a freelance journalist and he had some work at E3, so he took me along, and i played a whole bunch of games...i dont have videos, since i dont have a camcorder (orwhatever thats called).....but i can assure you that Quality Control Squad has labelled the conduit with a 'Crap' stamp

[QUOTE="air_wolf_cubed"][QUOTE="Ironre5"]

[QUOTE="air_wolf_cubed"]Dont even try reasoning with ironre5. He was sent here by Ubisoft with the sole purpose to hate this gameIronre5

i was sent here by Quality Control Squad to warn ppl about bad games...

i actually have played this game at E3, my uncle is a freelance journalist and he had some work at E3, so he took me along, and i played a whole bunch of games...i dont have videos, since i dont have a camcorder (orwhatever thats called).....but i can assure you that Quality Control Squad has labelled the conduit with a 'Crap' stamp

Here's some screens from Red Steel and The Conduit for those who care. Keep in mind that it's hard to judge based on only one screen, and even screens don't speak as loudly as actual footage does. I tried my best to get the best shots I could find for each game, so tell me what you think!

Emmenite7

That RS screen is from a trailer, not in game footage. That end game looked nowhere near as good as that.

I simply can't get excited for this game. It has almost nothing going for it. All it has right now is "better controls", which can be debatable in my eyes.

The only reason anyone should be excited for this game is if they only have a Wii. If that is the case I can understand why they are so hyped for this game. If you own one of the other current-gen consoles, or have a good pc, I can't see why you'd be excited for this game...

I simply can't get excited for this game. It has almost nothing going for it. All it has right now is "better controls", which can be debatable in my eyes.

The only reason anyone should be excited for this game is if they only have a Wii. If that is the case I can understand why they are so hyped for this game. If you own one of the other current-gen consoles, or have a good pc, I can't see why you'd be excited for this game...

Niff_T

What he said...i guess having a PC and 360 i am accustomed to good FPS games....

I simply can't get excited for this game. It has almost nothing going for it. All it has right now is "better controls", which can be debatable in my eyes.

The only reason anyone should be excited for this game is if they only have a Wii. If that is the case I can understand why they are so hyped for this game. If you own one of the other current-gen consoles, or have a good pc, I can't see why you'd be excited for this game...

Niff_T

[QUOTE="totalmachine"]Not-So-Great footage. I definitely never wanna get this.Ironre5

There Fixed

When you start changing peoples words you're getting desperate. Stop trying to change everyones opinions

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When you start changing peoples words you're getting desperate. Stop trying to change everyones opinions

air_wolf_cubed

HAHAHHAHAHHAHA i love that pic....im not getting desperate..im just havin PHUN

The Good:

• Graffics
• Gameplay
• Guns

The Bad:

• Environments
• Art direction

To be determined:

• AI?

The only thing this game has going for it is its controls and that one gun that looks unique, the one where you aim with the IR to aim the bullet.

Art direction is bad, story looks bland, character models look bad.

Look forward to it if you only own a Wii and want a FPS on the Wii. I think generally people who own two consoles (Wii and another) aren't excited for Conduit.

Will everyone stop complaining about the character models? I'm sure they would look better if the video wasnt running in terrible resolutionair_wolf_cubed

thats what i said

The only thing this game has going for it is its controls and that one gun that looks unique, the one where you aim with the IR to aim the bullet.

Art direction is bad, story looks bland, character models look bad.

Look forward to it if you only own a Wii and want a FPS on the Wii. I think generally people who own two consoles (Wii and another) aren't excited for Conduit.

Haziqonfire

What he said......

Will everyone stop complaining about the character models? I'm sure they would look better if the video wasnt running in terrible resolutionair_wolf_cubed

It's not just that. It's the game overall has terrible art direction -- looks completely generic. The only thing I've seen in it that is unique is that gun where you can control the bullet. It does nothing new or innovative -- which is why I bought a Wii in the first place -- new, innovative experiences -- it's a pass for me.

[QUOTE="air_wolf_cubed"]Will everyone stop complaining about the character models? I'm sure they would look better if the video wasnt running in terrible resolutionHaziqonfire

It's not just that. It's the game overall has terrible art direction -- looks completely generic. The only thing I've seen in it that is unique is that gun where you can control the bullet. It does nothing new or innovative -- which is why I bought a Wii in the first place -- new, innovative experiences -- it's a pass for me.

listen to the man, his eyes have been opened to the harsh reality that the conduit is nothing more than a very very very poor man's FPS

[QUOTE="Haziqonfire"]

[QUOTE="air_wolf_cubed"]Will everyone stop complaining about the character models? I'm sure they would look better if the video wasnt running in terrible resolutionIronre5

It's not just that. It's the game overall has terrible art direction -- looks completely generic. The only thing I've seen in it that is unique is that gun where you can control the bullet. It does nothing new or innovative -- which is why I bought a Wii in the first place -- new, innovative experiences -- it's a pass for me.

listen to the man, his eyes have been opened to the harsh reality that the conduit is nothing more than a very very very poor man's FPS

I'm sure it'll be a solid FPS, its just nothing to go crazy over.

It's not just that. It's the game overall has terrible art direction

Haziqonfire

Holy crap. You got an advanced copy? What the hell, are you connected in the industry? Would you mind posting some piccies for us please? I'm sure they won't sue you...

[QUOTE="Haziqonfire"]

It's not just that. It's the game overall has terrible art direction

clicketyclick

Holy crap. You got an advanced copy? What the hell, are you connected in the industry? Would you mind posting some piccies for us please? I'm sure they won't sue you...

Uh, what? I don't need to own the game to tell you that it has terrible art direction. Compare something like The Conduit's art direction, to something like Halo.

... The Conduit is laughable.

[QUOTE="Haziqonfire"]

It's not just that. It's the game overall has terrible art direction

clicketyclick

Holy crap. You got an advanced copy? What the hell, are you connected in the industry? Would you mind posting some piccies for us please? I'm sure they won't sue you...

wow immaturity at its finest......you do realise that there are vids and screens out, right? you do realise that Haziqonfire has a pair of eyes, and can see the screens and vids? you do realise that Haziq also has the ability to make opinions based on what hes seen? you do realise that the conduit has bad art? you also do realise that you mindlessly post without getting your facts straigt? you also do realise that your post was an Epic PHAILUUUUUUUUREEEEE?

[QUOTE="clicketyclick"][QUOTE="Haziqonfire"]

It's not just that. It's the game overall has terrible art direction

Haziqonfire

Holy crap. You got an advanced copy? What the hell, are you connected in the industry? Would you mind posting some piccies for us please? I'm sure they won't sue you...

Uh, what? I don't need to own the game to tell you that it has terrible art direction. Compare something like The Conduit's art direction, to something like Halo.

... The Conduit is laughable.

exactly what he said...to this day i can play halo 1 on my 360 and be amazed at the art....i like the part in which the walls are covered in shiny dots...it looked very very pleasing...then i look at the conduit and see golden eye like enviornmental detail....the conduit would have amazin enviornments.......if it were made in 1998....

[QUOTE="clicketyclick"][QUOTE="Haziqonfire"]

It's not just that. It's the game overall has terrible art direction

Haziqonfire

Holy crap. You got an advanced copy? What the hell, are you connected in the industry? Would you mind posting some piccies for us please? I'm sure they won't sue you...

Uh, what? I don't need to own the game to tell you that it has terrible art direction. Compare something like The Conduit's art direction, to something like Halo.

... The Conduit is laughable.

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oh. See, since you were talking about the game overall, I thought you had an advance copy so you could judge how the game is overall, rather than just what we're stuck with: a few minutes of game footage from one or two levels.

I guess it was a stupid assumption on my part to think that people making statements about the overall game had played over all the game.

(EDIT: btw, Halo isn't all that great.)

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oh. See, since you were talking about the game overall, I thought you had an advanced copy so you could judge how the game is overall, rather than just what we're stuck with: a few minutes of game footage from one or two levels.

I guess it was a stupid assumption on my part to think that people making statements about the overall game had played over all the game.

clicketyclick

OMG you do realise he was talking abt the art style of the game......get that in your head...now the art style of the game will remain the same, unless they fire their art director, or completely revamp the game....which is not going to happen, since its not financially feasable....now when you put two and two together, you can easily understand that the final game will have the same art direction as the screens/vids we've seen...understand now.....

sheesh, why do you have to make things so difficult, also saying things like, "oh i didnt know you played the game, can you send me a copy?" just makes you look stupid...its not funny, its been done to death.....and its certainly very very irritating...so if you wish to be considered seriously, better change your approach to voicing your opinion

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oh. See, since you were talking about the game overall, I thought you had an advance copy so you could judge how the game is overall, rather than just what we're stuck with: a few minutes of game footage from one or two levels.

I guess it was a stupid assumption on my part to think that people making statements about the overall game had played over all the game.

(EDIT: btw, Halo isn't all that great.)

clicketyclick

I said the game overall has a terrible art direction. I'm sorry if you are reading other things.

Also -- quit putting making up things. I didn't even say Halo was great. I was saying it has better art direction than The Conduit.

Jesus Christ. Its like your completely ignoring what I'm saying just to start an argument.

OMG you do realise he was talking abt the art style of the game......get that in your head...now the art style of the game will remain the same, unless they fire their art director, or completely revamp the game....which is not going to happen, since its not financially feasable....now when you put two and two together, you can easily understand that the final game will have the same art direction as the screens/vids we've seen...understand now.....Ironre5

Tell me something. Have you played MP3: Corruption?

Looks very promising.

Could this be the wii's halo?