The Conduit Discussion Thread(56k): Tons of New IGN Screens

[QUOTE="-Oath"]

[QUOTE="air_wolf_cubed"][QUOTE="-Oath"]I hadn't deen any trailers of it until now. Looks damn good, first day purchase.air_wolf_cubed

WTH, why? Because I hadn't seen any of the trailers till now? Im not the biggest shooter fan so I kinda ignored this game... Now I know I shouldn't have.

Oh god, him.

[QUOTE="clicketyclick"]

I know I know. And no, I'm not kidding!

Wintry_Flutist

Then explain me in 15 words max why you just repeated what I said:

- I've been talking about direction ever since you quoted me.

- And you were talking about direction when I quoted you too.

*facepalms*

Since ≠ When

There. Do I get a cookie? *smiles hopefully*

[QUOTE="air_wolf_cubed"][QUOTE="Niff_T"][QUOTE="Haziqonfire"][QUOTE="Niff_T"]

Uh... Guided missiles have been done before. See games like Battlefield 2 and Crysis.

Niff_T

Yeah but you use it with the IR system -- plus I dont play many FPS so I didn't know about those games having it.

Well then I'm not going to bust on you for not knowing about that.

Now, you gotta help me out cause I have no Idea what you mean by IR system... lol

That's what I thought you were talking about in the first place...

Again, it's been done before watch this. Skip ahead to the 4 minute mark to see what I'm talking about. The only difference is that you're not using a Wiimote, you're using a mouse (or controller if you're on the orange box)...

[QUOTE="Wintry_Flutist"][QUOTE="clicketyclick"]

I know I know. And no, I'm not kidding!

clicketyclick

Then explain me in 15 words max why you just repeated what I said:

- I've been talking about direction ever since you quoted me.

- And you were talking about direction when I quoted you too.

*facepalms*

Since ≠ When

There. Do I get a cookie? *smiles hopefully*

No, but I will give a new chance of making sense:

Games being derivative is nothing new (yuk yuk). It's hardly indicative of a lack of art direction. Ingenuity, creativity, and innovation, perhaps. But if Halo could get away with that and still be considered teh ultimatest great game to which games like The Conduit must be compared.

At this point I'd ask you precisely what it is you think lacks art direction but you've already said: "Bland textures, clashing colors, doubtful level design, blocky models".

Level design is not, I don't think, the Art Department's territory. I didn't really notice blockiness and I think you're either homosexual (not that there's anything wrong with that...) or far too picky to be complaining about clashing colours. Besides, how can it be bland if it clashes? This:

is not bland.click

Indeed, but this is off topic since I've been talking about direction ever since I posted in this thread.

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No, but I will give a new chance of making senseWintry_Flutist

Typically, when a person says "ever since [something]" they mean they've been doing whatever consistently AFTER [something]. For example. Ever since I dropped my toothbrush in the toilet accidentally during a particularly vigourous bout of brushing, I have kept the lid down when I'm not using the toilet. I was merely pointing out that not only were you talking about direction ever since I quoted you, but you were also talking about it in the quote itself.

Sorry, not 15 words. I'll try writing a haiku next time.

wow clicketyclick has actually usurped me in being a bigger troll....im not trolling, i prefer to say that i vociferously voice my opinionIronre5

... :|

You're starting to make me regret ever having defended you.

[QUOTE="Ironre5"]wow clicketyclick has actually usurped me in being a bigger troll....im not trolling, i prefer to say that i vociferously voice my opinionclicketyclick

... :|

You're starting to make me regret ever having defended you.

when did you defend me? i skipped over a lot of messages since our earlier debate, so i may have missed it...and anyways i ended by saying that im not a troll, i just voice my opinion vociferiously, so thus you too qualify as not being a troll....

[QUOTE="air_wolf_cubed"][QUOTE="-Oath"]

[QUOTE="air_wolf_cubed"][QUOTE="-Oath"]I hadn't deen any trailers of it until now. Looks damn good, first day purchase.-Oath

WTH, why? Because I hadn't seen any of the trailers till now? Im not the biggest shooter fan so I kinda ignored this game... Now I know I shouldn't have.

Oh god, him.

lolz i think ill spare Oath......but not for long..muhahhahahha j/k

[QUOTE="air_wolf_cubed"][QUOTE="-Oath"]

[QUOTE="air_wolf_cubed"][QUOTE="-Oath"]I hadn't deen any trailers of it until now. Looks damn good, first day purchase.Haziqonfire

WTH, why? Because I hadn't seen any of the trailers till now? Im not the biggest shooter fan so I kinda ignored this game... Now I know I shouldn't have.

No one will bash you for liking it. I bash people for hyping it like its THE best third party Wii game, which, it's not going to be.

The game's not out yet, so you can't say that for sure. What if it IS the best third party game for Wii?

[QUOTE="-Oath"][QUOTE="air_wolf_cubed"][QUOTE="-Oath"]

[QUOTE="air_wolf_cubed"][QUOTE="-Oath"]I hadn't deen any trailers of it until now. Looks damn good, first day purchase.Ironre5

WTH, why? Because I hadn't seen any of the trailers till now? Im not the biggest shooter fan so I kinda ignored this game... Now I know I shouldn't have.

Oh god, him.

lolz i think ill spare Oath......but not for long..muhahhahahha j/k

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Ironre5 seriously if you don't like the game don't buy, but don't come here ranting that the Conduit is crap as if you played and that you're opinion is fact. At least these guys played the game before writting an opinion on it, which is pretty dam positive and not worth anyware near the bashing this game is getting on this topic.

http://wii.ign.com/articles/891/891710p1.html

http://www.thatvideogameblog.com/2008/07/23/exclusive-hands-on-with-the-conduit-and-new-screens/

http://wii.kombo.com/article.php?artid=12340

http://play.tm/wire/click/2008521

http://news.vgchartz.com/news.php?id=1522

http://www.wow-power-leveling.com/news/new20080723172239.html

http://gonintendo.com/?p=49579

Please read the E3 previews and know that they are positive impression of a game that's not finished, and if the graphics and gameplay where good then why do expect them to be worse now or by the time its released.

Ironre5 seriously if you don't like the game don't buy, but don't come here ranting that the Conduit is crap as if you played and that you're opinion is fact. At least these guys played the game before writting an opinion on it, which is pretty dam positive and not worth anyware near the bashing this game is getting on this topic.

http://wii.ign.com/articles/891/891710p1.html

http://www.thatvideogameblog.com/2008/07/23/exclusive-hands-on-with-the-conduit-and-new-screens/

http://wii.kombo.com/article.php?artid=12340

http://play.tm/wire/click/2008521

http://news.vgchartz.com/news.php?id=1522

http://www.wow-power-leveling.com/news/new20080723172239.html

http://gonintendo.com/?p=49579

Please read the E3 previews and know that they are positive impression of a game that's not finished, and if the graphics and gameplay where good then why do expect them to be worse now or by the time its released.

komdosina

first of all, get ur facts straight....i HAVE played the game, and have explained this on numerous occasions...i dont feel like saying it again, look through this thread and youll see how....secondly most previews dont talk abt the negatives in a game....and if ppl can really think that the graphics look good, they are blind, cos the enviornments look crappy, the textures are horrible up close, the artstile (didnt spell it properly cos it gets censored) i pretty much non existant, the enemies dont even look formidable, the human weapons are alright, and that other alien weapon (not the one with the homing grenade, that looks awful) looks good too.....the story seems generic at best, the all seeing eye is a rip off of something from zelda (cant remember the name), and the devs have openly said that they are proud to have ripped off of other games...if theyve ripped off of other games, that means if youve played those other popular games, which most of us have, youve already experienced this game.....so whats the point in buying a downgraded version of your favorite titles.....

only people who have only a wii, will ever get excited for this....for ppl that want a tru FPS, play Half life 2, Halo 1, Call of duty 4, Crysis, Stalker, duke nukem, rainbow six vegas, bioshock etc.......try comparing the every aspect of the conduit (other than the graphics) with those games, and youll see that the conduit is severly lacking

This is the game all Nintendo fans (or maybe just me) have been waiting for since goldeneye 007 and perfect dark on the N64. It's the first FPS since those that gives us hope of having a great FPS even compared among all the consoles of the current gen.

seriously I 've been wanting a good FPS on my console of preference since perfect dark and have yet to find one.

this could be it. im excited.

[QUOTE="Jdog30"]

This is the game all Nintendo fans (or maybe just me) have been waiting for since goldeneye 007 and perfect dark on the N64. It's the first FPS since those that gives us hope of having a great FPS even compared among all the consoles of the current gen.

seriously I 've been wanting a good FPS on my console of preference since perfect dark and have yet to find one.

this could be it. im excited.

Ironre5

so your saying that the conduit can go toe to toe against halo 1, half life 2, call of duty 4, chronicles of riddick, bioshock etc...? cos if you are then BAHAHHAAHHAHAHHAHHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHA

no the real fact is...you r an idiot. Most previews have been positive. Especially about the graphics. If you don't like it, go and get back to kissing the ass of your mates that have "da tru" godlike standards.

r_gam3

reported....

[QUOTE="r_gam3"]

no the real fact is...you r an idiot. Most previews have been positive. Especially about the graphics. If you don't like it, go and get back to kissing the ass of your mates that have "da tru" godlike standards.

Ironre5

reported....

lronre people like you ''reported'' like omg! How old are you like 12 or something you can't handel a little bit of criticism i bet on xboxlive you always report someone for no good reason all in all i think you are a girl. By the way i think conduit will end up being a really good game.

[QUOTE="Ironre5"][QUOTE="r_gam3"]

no the real fact is...you r an idiot. Most previews have been positive. Especially about the graphics. If you don't like it, go and get back to kissing the ass of your mates that have "da tru" godlike standards.

yonaswii08

reported....

lronre people like you ''reported'' like omg! How old are you like 12 or something you can't handel a little bit of criticism i bet on xboxlive you always report someone for no good reason all in all i think you are a girl. By the way i think conduit will end up being a really good game.

reported

im just trying to make gamespot a better place....

jesus christ Ironre5 ,WE GET IT, you dont like the game! youve *sapposidly* played and you dont like it, ok!

you dont have to go on every conduit thread and tell us how much you hate it, do you realize how much you are annoying everyone?

jesus christ Ironre5 ,WE GET IT, you dont like the game! youve *sapposidly* played and you dont like it, ok!

you dont have to go on every conduit thread and tell us how much you hate it, do you realize how much you are annoying everyone?

legend26

The thing is, how can you deny The Conduit is lacking?

[QUOTE="legend26"]

jesus christ Ironre5 ,WE GET IT, you dont like the game! youve *sapposidly* played and you dont like it, ok!

you dont have to go on every conduit thread and tell us how much you hate it, do you realize how much you are annoying everyone?

Wintry_Flutist

The thing is, how can you deny The Conduit is lacking?

im not saying its not

i know most people dont like the art *im fine with it though*

i know the story seems generic

i konw i havnt played

but irone5 is just taking this to far, he WANTS to annoy everyone

jesus christ Ironre5 ,WE GET IT, you dont like the game! youve *sapposidly* played and you dont like it, ok!

you dont have to go on every conduit thread and tell us how much you hate it, do you realize how much you are annoying everyone?

legend26

on that same note, why is everyone making threads hyping this game.....and i only rip on the conduit everytime a trailer/gameplay video is shown that disappoints me....cos thats what everyone told me to do, when i first ripped on the original trailer.......if youll have a right to post hype threads abt the conduit, i have an equal right to rip it to shreds...

[QUOTE="legend26"]

jesus christ Ironre5 ,WE GET IT, you dont like the game! youve *sapposidly* played and you dont like it, ok!

you dont have to go on every conduit thread and tell us how much you hate it, do you realize how much you are annoying everyone?

Ironre5

on that same note, why is everyone making threads hyping this game.....and i only rip on the conduit everytime a trailer/gameplay video is shown that disappoints me....cos thats what everyone told me to do, when i first ripped on the original trailer.......if youll have a right to post hype threads abt the conduit, i have an equal right to rip it to shreds...

ummmm becouse people are excited for it?

and no one is saying you have to like it ,but the way you talk about it is just plain annoying and trolling. all you have to say is, "i dont get why people are excited? the graphics are bland, the story is generic,im not interested"

but insted you go ON EVERY thread and go "the conduit is FAAAAAAAILLLLL lol!"

"the conduit is going to suck!!!"

"you all are stupid hypeing it"

thats why.

if you think that im annoying youll by saying bad things abt the conduit, think abt how youll annoy me by hyping up something that doesnt need to be hypedIronre5

thats YOUR opinon, and no is forceing you to like it, just say "i dont like it" not "this game is stupid, it will fail, dont hype it, all of you listen to me, im right your wrong!"

you are acting like your opinon is a fact

[QUOTE="Ironre5"]if you think that im annoying youll by saying bad things abt the conduit, think abt how youll annoy me by hyping up something that doesnt need to be hypedlegend26

thats YOUR opinon, and no is forceing you to like it, just say "i dont like it" not "this game is stupid, it will fail, dont hype it, all of you listen to me, im right your wrong!"

you are acting like your opinon is a fact

i never told anyone that im right your wrong...i just rip on the game for its faults.......its my opinion....and my opinion is all based on FACTS

[QUOTE="legend26"]

[QUOTE="Ironre5"]if you think that im annoying youll by saying bad things abt the conduit, think abt how youll annoy me by hyping up something that doesnt need to be hypedIronre5

thats YOUR opinon, and no is forceing you to like it, just say "i dont like it" not "this game is stupid, it will fail, dont hype it, all of you listen to me, im right your wrong!"

you are acting like your opinon is a fact

i never told anyone that im right your wrong...i just rip on the game for its faults.......its my opinion....and my opinion is all based on FACTS

on what facts?

on what facts?legend26

here are the facts

1. The enviornments lack detail, and look very similar to games made in 1998 era.

2. The enemy models are very generic, ripped off from starship troopers, metroid, halo etc.....while that isnt much of a problem, their textures are...so are their animations

3. overall the art direction stinks, and thats a FACT

4. the guns arent very inventive at all...atleast most of them look good. tho, the homing grenade gun looks like crap

5. the story seems generic

6. the devs have stated that they blatantly ripped off ideas, concepts, models, etc from a lot of games....not a good thing to say, when your trying to promote your game as an original IP....

7. The puzzles shown so far are lame, they cant even be classified as puzzles...

8. gameplay doesnt feel interesting....

9. presentation is horrible

[QUOTE="legend26"]on what facts?Ironre5

here are the facts

1. The enviornments lack detail, and look very similar to games made in 1998 era.

2. The enemy models are very generic, ripped off from starship troopers, metroid, halo etc.....while that isnt much of a problem, their textures are...so are their animations

3. overall the art direction stinks, and thats a FACT

4. the guns arent very inventive at all...atleast most of them look good. tho, the homing grenade gun looks like crap

5. the story seems generic

6. the devs have stated that they blatantly ripped off ideas, concepts, models, etc from a lot of games....not a good thing to say, when your trying to promote your game as an original IP....

7. The puzzles shown so far are lame, they cant even be classified as puzzles...

8. gameplay doesnt feel interesting....

9. presentation is horrible

you realize all those are opinons, dont you?

also you took what the devs said out of context, they said they are barrowing elements from past games to incorperate in the conduit, which imo is a good thing

you realize all those are opinons, dont you?

also you took what the devs said out of context, they said they are barrowing elements from past games to incorperate in the conduit, which imo is a good thing

legend26

Unfortunately they don't seem skilled enough to merge them into one game properly.

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I was at PAX today and got a chance to play a demo level of The Conduit, and while I'm not sure what I was expecting, I have to say that I was actually kind of impressed. I don't think that you really get the real meat of the game from screenshots and videos and whatnot. The controls were definitely closer to Metroid Prime 3 than to Red Steel, and the environment, while still needing polish, were actually not half bad in action. I came away from it feeling that the game has the potential to be much better than I previously thought.GabuEx

So with 7 months left to polish the game, you think it could be more then thoroughly impressive in the end?Lord_Omikron666

After what I saw today - the demo level had a cool mission briefing thing at the start and then thrust the player into the level to kill some baddies and fight a boss and such like - I do actually think that the people hyping it as a possible AA or AAA game have at least some merit to do so. If the game keeps going down the direction it looks like the it's taking and if it gets multiplayer just right, I think it has real potential to be a really fun game.

This game has great promise, thanks for showing this. But I would like to see some online footage now.randomguy15

Yeah, 16 player online please:)

[QUOTE="randomguy15"]This game has great promise, thanks for showing this. But I would like to see some online footage now.fabz_95

Yeah, 16 player online please:)

Probably won't be for a little while longer. The lead game designer was there at PAX, and when someone asked him about online, he said that while the single-player mode was pretty much all roughed in and whatnot, the multiplayer mode was still very much in development, and they don't want to show people anything until they're happy with it.

So did the developers there at PAX said anything about publishers?King-gamer

Not that I can recall.

A bunch of videos and developer interview addedair_wolf_cubed

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air_wolf_cubed

Cue people posting to say, "omg the graphics are so fuzzy and bad! This looks like gameboy graphics. It looks like things got WORSE from what we've seen before any1 agree?" :P

[QUOTE="air_wolf_cubed"]

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clicketyclick

Cue people posting to say, "omg the graphics are so fuzzy and bad! This looks like gameboy graphics. It looks like things got WORSE from what we've seen before any1 agree?" :P

I hope ths game PHAIIIIIILS miserably in the gameplay department (it already has in the gphx department), and i also hope all you desperate wii owners, who havent played a FPS before, and have no clue what a good FPS is, buys this excuse for a FPS....and then waste your money....and when the day comes that this POS gets a 7 or lower....then ill wait for all you guys to realise how stupid youll were to be hyping this crapfest

Ironre5

dude chill, its just a game...

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air_wolf_cubed

Cue people posting to say, "omg the graphics are so fuzzy and bad! This looks like gameboy graphics. It looks like things got WORSE from what we've seen before any1 agree?" :P

Goodness, it's either/or? I think a number people have been over the top and rather unfair in their criticism of the game, which is what I was making fun of.

[QUOTE="clicketyclick"][QUOTE="air_wolf_cubed"]

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air_wolf_cubed

Cue people posting to say, "omg the graphics are so fuzzy and bad! This looks like gameboy graphics. It looks like things got WORSE from what we've seen before any1 agree?" :P

anyone else like the way it looks when you die?air_wolf_cubed

is it me or does the conduit have the best hand models on wii? :P

also the guy playing in the first vid sounded like he was having fun!