America's music taste is degrading

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#401 Gaming-Planet
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They're obvious getting high ratings so they won't stop any time soon with their formula, no matter how terrible it is, it's for the money.

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#402 LJS9502_basic
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[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="GreySeal9"]

The notion of some music being "better" than other music certainly is abstract. That's what I was refering to.

But yeah, I'll agree that the actual art itself is not abstract.

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Well as to the first....would you consider your categorization to be abstract? If we are sticking with the subjective here for the moment...I can assure you I have reasons for what I like/dislike. Nothing abstract about it.:P

My categorization of what?

As for reasons, I know you have them, but I'm willing to bet that most of them are absract as most ideas are abstract and by extension, most reasons for liking things are abstract.

If I have reasons.....and I know the reasons...how can that be abstract?
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#403 atony12
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Gotta remember though, those artists are really only appealing to younger audiences
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[QUOTE="GreySeal9"]

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"] Well as to the first....would you consider your categorization to be abstract? If we are sticking with the subjective here for the moment...I can assure you I have reasons for what I like/dislike. Nothing abstract about it.:PLJS9502_basic

My categorization of what?

As for reasons, I know you have them, but I'm willing to bet that most of them are absract as most ideas are abstract and by extension, most reasons for liking things are abstract.

If I have reasons.....and I know the reasons...how can that be abstract?

Because they probably are not quantifiable. I mean, some of your reasons might be more conrete, but I'm willing to bet that most of them have alot to do with preferences and things you like about your favorite bands' sound, which is abstract.

Abstract doesn't neccesarily mean not real.

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#405 LJS9502_basic
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[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="GreySeal9"]

My categorization of what?

As for reasons, I know you have them, but I'm willing to bet that most of them are absract as most ideas are abstract and by extension, most reasons for liking things are abstract.

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If I have reasons.....and I know the reasons...how can that be abstract?

Because they probably are not quantifiable. I mean, some of your reasons might be more conrete, but I'm willing to bet that most of them have alot to do with preferences and things you like about your favorite bands' sound, which is abstract.

Abstract doesn't neccesarily mean not real.

I don't consider my reasons abstract though. They are specific.
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#406 Shmiity
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[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="GreySeal9"]

My categorization of what?

As for reasons, I know you have them, but I'm willing to bet that most of them are absract as most ideas are abstract and by extension, most reasons for liking things are abstract.

GreySeal9

If I have reasons.....and I know the reasons...how can that be abstract?

Because they probably are not quantifiable. I mean, some of your reasons might be more conrete, but I'm willing to bet that most of them have alot to do with preferences and things you like about your favorite bands' sound, which is abstract.

Abstract doesn't neccesarily mean not real.

Are you guys even talking about anything? i think it would be easier to just say "The Cure sucks", and insight a flame war.

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#407 GreySeal9
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[QUOTE="GreySeal9"]

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]If I have reasons.....and I know the reasons...how can that be abstract?LJS9502_basic

Because they probably are not quantifiable. I mean, some of your reasons might be more conrete, but I'm willing to bet that most of them have alot to do with preferences and things you like about your favorite bands' sound, which is abstract.

Abstract doesn't neccesarily mean not real.

I don't consider my reasons abstract though. They are specific.

So what are your reasons?

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#408 LJS9502_basic
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[QUOTE="GreySeal9"]

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]If I have reasons.....and I know the reasons...how can that be abstract?Shmiity

Because they probably are not quantifiable. I mean, some of your reasons might be more conrete, but I'm willing to bet that most of them have alot to do with preferences and things you like about your favorite bands' sound, which is abstract.

Abstract doesn't neccesarily mean not real.

Are you guys even talking about anything? i think it would be easier to just say "The Cure sucks", and insight a flame war.

I always consider the source of those statements and am generally pleased after noting the music taste of said individual that they don't appreciate The Cure.
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#409 GreySeal9
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[QUOTE="GreySeal9"]

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]If I have reasons.....and I know the reasons...how can that be abstract?Shmiity

Because they probably are not quantifiable. I mean, some of your reasons might be more conrete, but I'm willing to bet that most of them have alot to do with preferences and things you like about your favorite bands' sound, which is abstract.

Abstract doesn't neccesarily mean not real.

Are you guys even talking about anything? i think it would be easier to just say "The Cure sucks", and insight a flame war.

Probably not. :lol:

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#410 LJS9502_basic
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[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="GreySeal9"]

Because they probably are not quantifiable. I mean, some of your reasons might be more conrete, but I'm willing to bet that most of them have alot to do with preferences and things you like about your favorite bands' sound, which is abstract.

Abstract doesn't neccesarily mean not real.

GreySeal9

I don't consider my reasons abstract though. They are specific.

So what are your reasons?

Melody, arrangement, skill, lyrics, atmosphere....
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#411 GreySeal9
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[QUOTE="Shmiity"]

[QUOTE="GreySeal9"]

Because they probably are not quantifiable. I mean, some of your reasons might be more conrete, but I'm willing to bet that most of them have alot to do with preferences and things you like about your favorite bands' sound, which is abstract.

Abstract doesn't neccesarily mean not real.

LJS9502_basic

Are you guys even talking about anything? i think it would be easier to just say "The Cure sucks", and insight a flame war.

I always consider the source of those statements and am generally pleased after noting the music taste of said individual that they don't appreciate The Cure.

I never said anything bad about The Cure as I do like some of their music. :?No reason to insult my tastes.

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#412 PannicAtack
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You know what's a good album?

This is a good album.

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#413 LJS9502_basic
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[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="Shmiity"]

Are you guys even talking about anything? i think it would be easier to just say "The Cure sucks", and insight a flame war.

GreySeal9

I always consider the source of those statements and am generally pleased after noting the music taste of said individual that they don't appreciate The Cure.

I never said anything bad about The Cure as I do like some of their music. :?No reason to insult my tastes.

:lol: I wasn't talking about anyone in particular currently....
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#414 GreySeal9
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[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"] I don't consider my reasons abstract though. They are specific.LJS9502_basic

So what are your reasons?

Melody, arrangement, skill, lyrics, atmosphere....

Those are all quite vague.

I mean, those are reasons I like my favorite artists too, but they are rather abstract.

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#415 GreySeal9
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[QUOTE="GreySeal9"]

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]I always consider the source of those statements and am generally pleased after noting the music taste of said individual that they don't appreciate The Cure.LJS9502_basic

I never said anything bad about The Cure as I do like some of their music. :?No reason to insult my tastes.

:lol: I wasn't talking about anyone in particular currently....

"Music taste of said individual?"

How could that not be refering to anyone? :?

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#416 LJS9502_basic
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[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="GreySeal9"]

So what are your reasons?

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Melody, arrangement, skill, lyrics, atmosphere....

Those are all quite vague.

I mean, those are reasons I like my favorite artists too, but they are rather abstract.

I don't consider that abstract as they are specific to what I like....I would consider my taste abstract if I could not describe what I like about the music. Just that I liked it.
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#417 GreySeal9
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[QUOTE="GreySeal9"]

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"] Melody, arrangement, skill, lyrics, atmosphere....LJS9502_basic

Those are all quite vague.

I mean, those are reasons I like my favorite artists too, but they are rather abstract.

I don't consider that abstract as they are specific to what I like....I would consider my taste abstract if I could not describe what I like about the music. Just that I liked it.

I think we should probably just stop talking about this as we are probably talking about nothing much. :P

I'll just say that I think opinions are mostly abstract.

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#418 LJS9502_basic
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[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="GreySeal9"]

I never said anything bad about The Cure as I do like some of their music. :?No reason to insult my tastes.

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:lol: I wasn't talking about anyone in particular currently....

"Music taste of said individual?"

How could that not be refering to anyone? :?

Ah well you are new to OT. I used to get trolled in threads by individuals making that statement in lieu of making a point about the discussion. And generally I had already seen them post in music threads so I knew what they considered "music". And I did not.
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#419 GreySeal9
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[QUOTE="GreySeal9"]

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"] :lol: I wasn't talking about anyone in particular currently....LJS9502_basic

"Music taste of said individual?"

How could that not be refering to anyone? :?

Ah well you are new to OT. I used to get trolled in threads by individuals making that statement in lieu of making a point about the discussion. And generally I had already seen them post in music threads so I knew what they considered "music". And I did not.

I'm still kind of suspicious, but I'll let it go since I'm in a pretty good mood right now. :P

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[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="GreySeal9"]

"Music taste of said individual?"

How could that not be refering to anyone? :?

GreySeal9

Ah well you are new to OT. I used to get trolled in threads by individuals making that statement in lieu of making a point about the discussion. And generally I had already seen them post in music threads so I knew what they considered "music". And I did not.

I'm still kind of suspicious, but I'll let it go since I'm in a pretty good mood right now. :P

Well I wasn't talking about you.....but if you want me to critique your musical selections....:P
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#421 GreySeal9
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[QUOTE="GreySeal9"]

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"] Ah well you are new to OT. I used to get trolled in threads by individuals making that statement in lieu of making a point about the discussion. And generally I had already seen them post in music threads so I knew what they considered "music". And I did not.LJS9502_basic

I'm still kind of suspicious, but I'll let it go since I'm in a pretty good mood right now. :P

Well I wasn't talking about you.....but if you want me to critique your musical selections....:P

That's impossible. My selections can't be critiqued. They are objectively the best. 8)