America's music taste is degrading

England generally does and always has had a better music scene. Just thought I'd put it out there.

America likes money, pop artists that hypnotize you and steal your money and it goes to record label boss's. They promote the talent to a minimum 'cause only higher beings are able to comprahend the amazingness. So it means LESS money...

Music is subjective. You may not like the current music but others do.Diablo-B

Every time I see dmadfearmonger post this is what I imagine he looks like.

He's basically saying that same exact thing.

I remember when I was a 14-year-old music elitist too, it's a phase you'll grow out of.

[QUOTE="Diablo-B"]Music is subjective. You may not like the current music but others do.DmadFearmonger

There's no such thing as bad music. I think almost the entire underground/indie scene is pretentious trash does that make it trash?

[QUOTE="DmadFearmonger"][QUOTE="Diablo-B"]Music is subjective. You may not like the current music but others do.Espada12

There's no such thing as bad music. I think almost the entire underground/indie scene is pretentious trash does that make it trash?

I remember when I was a 14-year-old music elitist too, it's a phase you'll grow out of.JML897

[QUOTE="Diablo-B"]Music is subjective. You may not like the current music but others do.DmadFearmonger

Yes, but people have differing ideas on what's bad.

Believe it or not, there are people who think the music you listen to is bad.

People say this with every new generation of music.

[QUOTE="DmadFearmonger"][QUOTE="Diablo-B"]Music is subjective. You may not like the current music but others do.GreySeal9

Yes, but people have differing ideas on what's bad.

Believe it or not, there are people who think the music you listen to is bad.

[QUOTE="GreySeal9"]

[QUOTE="DmadFearmonger"]Sometimes you people piss me off. Many of those people who supposedly "like" crap music only like it 'cause It's ALL that they're hearing. All that's being marketed to them. There IS such a thing as bad music. Ironically enough The Sound of Muzak by Porcupine Tree just came on...DmadFearmonger

Yes, but people have differing ideas on what's bad.

Believe it or not, there are people who think the music you listen to is bad.

Or maybe they genuinely like what they listen to and don't like the sort of music you listen to? Has that possibility ever occured to you?

[QUOTE="DmadFearmonger"][QUOTE="GreySeal9"]

Yes, but people have differing ideas on what's bad.

Believe it or not, there are people who think the music you listen to is bad.

GreySeal9

Or maybe they genuinely like what they listen to and don't like the sort of music you listen to? Has that possibility ever occured to you?

[QUOTE="ColonelVodka"]

[QUOTE="GreySeal9"]

What do you listen to?

GreySeal9

You're entitled to your opinon, but really, I think the idea that any of that stuff, with the exception of Chopin and Beethoven, is better than The Beatles or The Stones or Radiohead is downright lauaghble.

[QUOTE="GreySeal9"]

[QUOTE="DmadFearmonger"]Sometimes you people piss me off. Many of those people who supposedly "like" crap music only like it 'cause It's ALL that they're hearing. All that's being marketed to them. There IS such a thing as bad music. Ironically enough The Sound of Muzak by Porcupine Tree just came on...DmadFearmonger

Yes, but people have differing ideas on what's bad.

Believe it or not, there are people who think the music you listen to is bad.

That statement is a little ironic because you following the whole "all hip-hop sucks" / "radio music is garbage" trend makes you sound like more of a sheep than the people you're accusing of being sheep...

(PS they play Tool on the radio)

[QUOTE="DmadFearmonger"][QUOTE="GreySeal9"]

Yes, but people have differing ideas on what's bad.

Believe it or not, there are people who think the music you listen to is bad.

GreySeal9

Or maybe they genuinely like what they listen to and don't like the sort of music you listen to? Has that possibility ever occured to you?

[QUOTE="GreySeal9"]

[QUOTE="ColonelVodka"]Beethoven, Chopin, Death, Cynic, Gordian Knot, Exivious, Agalloch, Yngwie Malmsteen, Jason Becker and many others.

communistcat

You're entitled to your opinon, but really, I think the idea that any of that stuff, with the exception of Chopin and Beethoven, is better than The Beatles or The Stones or Radiohead is downright lauaghble.

That's fine. I respect your opinion, but it's just that I think The Beatles' great songs (of which there were tons) were legendary and those acts that he mentioned sound forgettable in comparison.

England generally does and always has had a better music scene. Just thought I'd put it out there.

America likes money, pop artists that hypnotize you and steal your money and it goes to record label boss's. They promote the talent to a minimum 'cause only higher beings are able to comprahend the amazingness. So it means LESS money...

DmadFearmonger

[QUOTE="DmadFearmonger"][QUOTE="GreySeal9"]

Yes, but people have differing ideas on what's bad.

Believe it or not, there are people who think the music you listen to is bad.

JML897

That statement is a little ironic because you following the whole "all hip-hop sucks" / "radio music is garbage" trend makes you sound like more of a sheep than the people you're accusing of being sheep...

(PS they play Tool on the radio)

[QUOTE="GreySeal9"]

[QUOTE="DmadFearmonger"]Makes me sad they'll never be able to enjoy what they could have loved if they didn't follow trends...DmadFearmonger

Or maybe they genuinely like what they listen to and don't like the sort of music you listen to? Has that possibility ever occured to you?

I think you take this just a little bit too seriously.

England generally does and always has had a better music scene.

DmadFearmonger

England has some of the most awful indie bands.

They don't play Tool on MAINSTREAM radio do they? They play that on the GOOD statoins.DmadFearmonger

Here in Chicago they play Tool on Q101 which is a big alt rock station. It's definitely a mainstream radio station.

[QUOTE="DmadFearmonger"]

England generally does and always has had a better music scene. Just thought I'd put it out there.

America likes money, pop artists that hypnotize you and steal your money and it goes to record label boss's. They promote the talent to a minimum 'cause only higher beings are able to comprahend the amazingness. So it means LESS money...

Lockedge

[QUOTE="DmadFearmonger"]They don't play Tool on MAINSTREAM radio do they? They play that on the GOOD statoins.JML897

Here in Chicago they play Tool on Q101 which is a big alt rock station. It's definitely a mainstream radio station.

[QUOTE="DmadFearmonger"][QUOTE="GreySeal9"]

Or maybe they genuinely like what they listen to and don't like the sort of music you listen to? Has that possibility ever occured to you?

GreySeal9

I think you take this just a little bit too seriously.

[QUOTE="communistcat"]

[QUOTE="GreySeal9"]

You're entitled to your opinon, but really, I think the idea that any of that stuff, with the exception of Chopin and Beethoven, is better than The Beatles or The Stones or Radiohead is downright lauaghble.

GreySeal9

That's fine. I respect your opinion, but it's just that I think The Beatles' great songs (of which there were tons) were legendary and those acts that he mentioned sound forgettable in comparison.

[QUOTE="GreySeal9"]

[QUOTE="communistcat"]I disagree with him that the beatles, stones, and radiohead suck, but I disagree far more strongly with your opinion that Cynic, Death, Yngwie and Jason Becker are laughable in comparison to Beatles, stones, and radiohead.

ColonelVodka

That's fine. I respect your opinion, but it's just that I think The Beatles' great songs (of which there were tons) were legendary and those acts that he mentioned sound forgettable in comparison.

He is incredibly talented, but I find his music to be kind of boring TBH.

People have said the same thing for 50 years...

Its true: your average person listens to crap... but so what? who cares... let them listen to crap and enjoy it...

[QUOTE="GreySeal9"]

[QUOTE="DmadFearmonger"]If that's the case then god have mercy on their poor lost souls...DmadFearmonger

I think you take this just a little bit too seriously.

Why exactly are you pissed? Because other people have their own tastes?

People have said the same thing for 50 years...

Its true: your average person listens to crap... but so what? who cares... let them listen to crap and enjoy it...

heysharpshooter

[QUOTE="heysharpshooter"]

People have said the same thing for 50 years...

Its true: your average person listens to crap... but so what? who cares... let them listen to crap and enjoy it...

DmadFearmonger

*sigh*

[QUOTE="heysharpshooter"]

People have said the same thing for 50 years...

Its true: your average person listens to crap... but so what? who cares... let them listen to crap and enjoy it...

DmadFearmonger

Thats not how I meant it... what do you listen to that so superior?

[QUOTE="DmadFearmonger"][QUOTE="GreySeal9"]

I think you take this just a little bit too seriously.

GreySeal9

Why exactly are you pissed? Because other people have their own tastes?

[QUOTE="heysharpshooter"]

People have said the same thing for 50 years...

Its true: your average person listens to crap... but so what? who cares... let them listen to crap and enjoy it...

DmadFearmonger

[QUOTE="DmadFearmonger"][QUOTE="heysharpshooter"]

People have said the same thing for 50 years...

Its true: your average person listens to crap... but so what? who cares... let them listen to crap and enjoy it...

heysharpshooter

Thats not how I meant it... what do you listen to that so superior?

[QUOTE="heysharpshooter"]

[QUOTE="DmadFearmonger"]Good point. I'm done with criticising these fools with their crap music. Guess I'll just let 'em rot 'cause I know I got it gooooodDmadFearmonger

Thats not how I meant it... what do you listen to that so superior?

[QUOTE="heysharpshooter"]

[QUOTE="DmadFearmonger"]Good point. I'm done with criticising these fools with their crap music. Guess I'll just let 'em rot 'cause I know I got it gooooodDmadFearmonger

Thats not how I meant it... what do you listen to that so superior?

lol, ok man... enjoy that then:roll:

[QUOTE="DmadFearmonger"][QUOTE="heysharpshooter"]

Thats not how I meant it... what do you listen to that so superior?

ColonelVodka

[QUOTE="Lockedge"][QUOTE="DmadFearmonger"]

England generally does and always has had a better music scene. Just thought I'd put it out there.

America likes money, pop artists that hypnotize you and steal your money and it goes to record label boss's. They promote the talent to a minimum 'cause only higher beings are able to comprahend the amazingness. So it means LESS money...

DmadFearmonger

[QUOTE="DmadFearmonger"]

[QUOTE="Lockedge"] I would very much disagree with you. England has had some more high level success, for sure, and might have historically more top end talent, but Eng;and's talent pool thins out really really fast, especially in recent years. And I say this as someone who has Bowie, Radiohead and Genesis albums (plural) in my top 10 albums of all time.Lockedge

[QUOTE="ColonelVodka"]

[QUOTE="DmadFearmonger"]Deep, complex and technically brilliant rock bands that play what they love. Not someone who writes for the money. DmadFearmonger

Wow, I a dissapoint...

I figured that with the authority you use when speaking about music, you would listen to more complex and technical music than that... I mean, its like I figured you were listening to the truly brilliant artists of thw world... instead, you are listening to the same stuff everybody who knows what an arpeggiated sweep listens to...

[QUOTE="GreySeal9"]

[QUOTE="DmadFearmonger"]When maggots piss me off I tend to get serious... If you knew me when I'm in a good mood I'm an entirely different person.DmadFearmonger

Why exactly are you pissed? Because other people have their own tastes?

Have you ever considered that other people have a different idea of what is quality music? Have you considered that people are happy with their music? I know I wouldn't trade what I listen to in for Dream Theatre.

[QUOTE="DmadFearmonger"][QUOTE="ColonelVodka"]Besides Porcupine Tree, what else do you like? I am curious.

heysharpshooter

Wow, I a dissapoint...

I figured that with the authority you use when speaking about music, you would listen to more complex and technical music than that... I mean, its like I figured you were listening to the truly brilliant artists of thw world... instead, you are listening to the same stuff everybody who knows what an arpeggiated sweep listens to...

[QUOTE="heysharpshooter"]

[QUOTE="DmadFearmonger"]Good point. I'm done with criticising these fools with their crap music. Guess I'll just let 'em rot 'cause I know I got it gooooodDmadFearmonger

Thats not how I meant it... what do you listen to that so superior?

I don't neccesarily think writing for the money is a bad thing if one is talented enough.

I mean, Elton John wrote some great songs in the 70s and he admitted that he does it partly for the money.

That being said, his 80s work (with the exception of a handful of songs) and most of his 90s stuff is pretty awful.

[QUOTE="DmadFearmonger"][QUOTE="GreySeal9"]

Why exactly are you pissed? Because other people have their own tastes?

GreySeal9

Have you ever considered that other people have a different idea of what is quality music? Have you considered that people are happy with their music? I know I wouldn't trade what I listen to in for Dream Theatre.

I have never heard Tool on a Mainstream radio station...DmadFearmonger

That's the only place I've ever heard them. (can't say that I cared for them)

[QUOTE="heysharpshooter"]

[QUOTE="DmadFearmonger"]Dream Theater, Tool, Radiohead, Black Sabbath, Led Zeppelin, King Crimson, Rush, Steve Vai, Emerson, Lake & Palmer, Pink Floyd Those are a few. I listen to a fair few indie and Underground artists too. Though not Deep and Complex most of the time they can be very talented and creative.DmadFearmonger

Wow, I a dissapoint...

I figured that with the authority you use when speaking about music, you would listen to more complex and technical music than that... I mean, its like I figured you were listening to the truly brilliant artists of thw world... instead, you are listening to the same stuff everybody who knows what an arpeggiated sweep listens to...

[QUOTE="heysharpshooter"]

[QUOTE="DmadFearmonger"]Dream Theater, Tool, Radiohead, Black Sabbath, Led Zeppelin, King Crimson, Rush, Steve Vai, Emerson, Lake & Palmer, Pink Floyd Those are a few. I listen to a fair few indie and Underground artists too. Though not Deep and Complex most of the time they can be very talented and creative.DmadFearmonger

Wow, I a dissapoint...

I figured that with the authority you use when speaking about music, you would listen to more complex and technical music than that... I mean, its like I figured you were listening to the truly brilliant artists of thw world... instead, you are listening to the same stuff everybody who knows what an arpeggiated sweep listens to...

Its because you don't have the musical aptitudeto truly understand it...I mean, I can understand that, considering your tatses, but in comparision to what I listen to, your musical repitorie is severly limited...

[QUOTE="GreySeal9"]

[QUOTE="DmadFearmonger"]It's more that people are stupid enough to be unable to tell the difference between quality and quantity. But I'm done with this. I'm obviously not getting any message through to you. I got it good. I'm happy with the music I listen to 'cause I know it's brilliant. You win, 'cause I honestly couldn't care less if other people wanna listen to awful music anymore. DmadFearmonger

Have you ever considered that other people have a different idea of what is quality music? Have you considered that people are happy with their music? I know I wouldn't trade what I listen to in for Dream Theatre.

They're really not memorable enough for me to bother spelling their name correctly, but anyway, I'm not sure why you ever thought you were going to "get somewhere". You have your music taste and other people have theirs. Do you really think anybody is going to abandon their music and listen to what you think is so brilliant?

[QUOTE="DmadFearmonger"][QUOTE="GreySeal9"]

Have you ever considered that other people have a different idea of what is quality music? Have you considered that people are happy with their music? I know I wouldn't trade what I listen to in for Dream Theatre.

GreySeal9

They're really not memorable enough for me to bother spelling their name correctly, but anyway, I'm not sure why you ever thought you were going to "get somewhere". You have your music taste and other people have theirs. Do you really think anybody is going to abandon their music and listen to what you think is so brilliant?