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#1 blakout3
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I personally do think some people do and anyone that says its in the name of self defence is talking BS. I mean do they really need guns?
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#2 Sajedene
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I like the idea of firepower. Its not the guns that kill people... its people that kill people.
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I like the idea of firepower. Its not the guns that kill people... its people that kill people. Sajedene

but people with guns kill more people than without.

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#4 needled24-7
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Some people like collecting guns as a hobby. Some people like to go to the shooting range. Some people like knowing that if someone breaks into their house, they can reach for their gun to protect themselves.
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#5 Dark_Knight6
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If I were personally given the choice, I'd remove the Second Amendment from the Constitution. I hate guns.
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#6 harashawn
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Only cops and the military should have guns. Unless the gun is for hunting.
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[QUOTE="Sajedene"]I like the idea of firepower. Its not the guns that kill people... its people that kill people. obsolete2k1

but people with guns kill more people than without.

If I really wanted to kill someone - with or without a gun it will happen.

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#8 Hewkii
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Machine Guns should be legalized.
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#9 Nintendo_Ownes7
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Some people like collecting guns as a hobby. Some people like to go to the shooting range. Some people like knowing that if someone breaks into their house, they can reach for their gun to protect themselves.needled24-7
This that is why I said it is just self defense. If they outlawed guns the only people that would have guns are Criminals. Because they are going to get a gun somewhere.
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#10 needled24-7
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Whether it is legal to own guns or not, criminals will still get them.
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#11 blakout3
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But you can't forget all the little kiddies who find dads gun and...well...you know the rest. The little kiddie doesnt exsist anymore.
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#12 ferrari2001
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All guns could be illegal, the only thing that would change is more people would get robbed and/or murdered. Theres a thing called the Black Market which is where alot of killers get their guns anyways, and anyone who is against the owning of guns, is against the constitution which build this country. I don't get while people, even here in America try to be so unAmerican, what the world coming to when even the constitution that build this country doesn't mean anything anymore.
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#13 Dark_Knight6
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But you can't forget all the little kiddies who find dads gun and...well...you know the rest. The little kiddie doesnt exsist anymore.blakout3

Thats Dad's fault for not securing the gun.

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#14 Sajedene
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But you can't forget all the little kiddies who find dads gun and...well...you know the rest. The little kiddie doesnt exsist anymore.blakout3

Thats not the gun's fault -- thats the parent's fault.

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#15 MKLOL
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One thought: GUNS ARE AWESOME!!!
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Only cops and the military should have guns. Unless the gun is for hunting.harashawn

I disagree. While I don't like hunting(shooting an animal, and not eating it or using it's fur to make a coat...what's the point?) I think that guns should be allowed for self defense. We should have very strict laws on them, and if someone commits a crime with a gun they get jail for life.

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All guns could be illegal, the only thing that would change is more people would get robbed and/or murdered. Theres a thing called the Black Market which is where alot of killers get their guns anyways, and anyone who is against the owning of guns, is against the constitution which build this country. I don't get while people, even here in America try to be so unAmerican, what the world coming to when even the constitution that build this country doesn't mean anything anymore.ferrari2001

well, if we're slowly destroying two of the other Bill of Rights amendments, may as well start on this one.

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#18 GrindingAxe
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Canada has no gun problem at all. People who are worried about getting blasted should move there, because Americans will never give up there guns.
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#19 needled24-7
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But you can't forget all the little kiddies who find dads gun and...well...you know the rest. The little kiddie doesnt exsist anymore.blakout3
That's not a very good argument against keeping guns legalized.
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#20 foxhound_fox
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Guns don't kill people, they are just one of the many tools used to do it. You want to ban kitchen knives, screwdrivers and hammers as well? Criminals who use guns to commit crimes won't in any way be stopped from getting a gun by harsher gun laws that make it harder to get legal firearms... since you know, they get illegal firearms from the street and not a dealer/retailer.
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#21 blakout3
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[QUOTE="blakout3"]But you can't forget all the little kiddies who find dads gun and...well...you know the rest. The little kiddie doesnt exsist anymore.needled24-7
That's not a very good argument against keeping guns legalized.

Um it doesn't bother me whether you gets keep legalizing it or not I'm in New Zealand so your dirty bullets can't touch me.

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#22 cool_baller
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Having a gun is like having two ****s, if one of your ****s could kill someone.
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#23 go-cizmek
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I'd like a gun; a tranquilizer gun. For self defense of course:P
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#24 TenP
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I don't think guns should be made illegal, but there certainly needs to be stricter gun laws.

It's so easy to get a gun these days it's scary. ID tagged weapons with ID tagged soldiers IMMINENT!

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#25 ShadowFlood
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guns are fun to shoot, like archery only easier. /thread
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#26 loco145
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[QUOTE="obsolete2k1"]

[QUOTE="Sajedene"]I like the idea of firepower. Its not the guns that kill people... its people that kill people. Sajedene

but people with guns kill more people than without.

If I really wanted to kill someone - with or without a gun it will happen.

Still, there's a reason why wars aren't fought with stones and sticks anymore....

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#27 SAURON221
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Yes it is our constitutional right to own a firearm.
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#28 cametall
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I'm a rabid conservative (not to start a political debate), but I'm not a fan of guns.
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#29 limpbizkit818
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I don't think guns should be made illegal, but there certainly needs to be stricter gun laws.

It's so easy to get a gun these days it's scary. ID tagged weapons with ID tagged soldiers IMMINENT!

TenP

Something tells me you don't live in NY.............

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#30 R0cky_Racc00n
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Guns are the extension of the penis The more powerful gun you have, the better man you are.
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#31 shoeman12
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i'm a gun owner and america isn't obsessed with guns.
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#32 -TheSecondSign-
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Yeah, defense is a BS excuse, which is why a very good friend of mine saved a waitress from rape from 5 men with his gun.

:|

Total BS, I'm sure.

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#33 Sajo7
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I like the idea of firepower. Its not the guns that kill people... its people that kill people. Sajedene

I'm sure the gun helps.

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#34 Sajo7
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I like the idea of firepower. Its not the guns that kill people... its people that kill people. Sajedene

I'm sure the gun helps.

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#35 harden007
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Only cops and the military should have guns. Unless the gun is for hunting.harashawn

Defending ourselves against the government is the whole reason for having that amendment.

You really want the corrupt government and military to be the only ones with guns? They would lord it over the people for eternity that way.

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#37 stedtfeld
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We don't have an obsession with guns.
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#38 -TheSecondSign-
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First off, I am not a crazy redneck militia member who hates the government. Infact, I tolerate the government. It should be smaller and less powerful, but I can still tolerate the way it is right now. I don't think they are evil warlords, but that's beside the point.

The government does NOT have a right to tell me I can't have and use a firearm. It's MY RESPONSIBILITY.

What is this, mega huge government time?

Everyone here always talks about how BIG AND EVIL the government is, and how "the government takes our rights away! I can't be part of a violent out of control riot without cops beating me over the head! 1984! 1984!"

Then they want to sign more rights away.

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[QUOTE="Sajedene"][QUOTE="obsolete2k1"]

[QUOTE="Sajedene"]I like the idea of firepower. Its not the guns that kill people... its people that kill people. loco145

but people with guns kill more people than without.

If I really wanted to kill someone - with or without a gun it will happen.

Still, there's a reason why wars aren't fought with stones and sticks anymore....

Yes... its called efficiency and accuracy and the magic of technology. There's a reason why we dont use horse drawn carriages anymore too...

[QUOTE="Sajedene"]I like the idea of firepower. Its not the guns that kill people... its people that kill people. Sajo7

I'm sure the gun helps.

I'm sure it does -- see my above explanation.

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#40 The-King-of-FPS
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I'm sick of these hippies around the world challenging the second amendment constantly because they fear that guns will somehow form a new human nature trait that will cause death, violence, and war. Well war has been going gone since before guns were invented and if we have guns to defend our selves while cops in britian have hard sticks then that's there fault and downfall.
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#41 albi321
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Should be illegal for the most part, guns only bring more violence.
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#42 -TheSecondSign-
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Should be illegal for the most part, guns only bring more violence.albi321

Yes, illegal ones do.

Ask any convict wether or not gun control laws will stop them. They laugh and promote gun control laws because it makes many targets much easier to get to, and there is already a thriving black market for firearms. Banning them or placing heavier restrictions does nothing but make that market more profitable and larger, while significantly diminishing the legally owned number of firearms.

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#43 alexmurray
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People shouldn't have guns, there is not point, though some guns like hunting rifles should stay legal, guns like handguns and shotguns should stay at shooting ranges,

and the whole argument that they are there to stop the government is BS. tanks, aircraft and trained solders vs people with rifles

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[QUOTE="albi321"]Should be illegal for the most part, guns only bring more violence.-TheSecondSign-

Yes, illegal ones do.

Ask any convict wether or not gun control laws will stop them. They laugh and promote gun control laws because it makes many targets much easier to get to, and there is already a thriving black market for firearms. Banning them or placing heavier restrictions does nothing but make that market more profitable and larger, while significantly diminishing the legally owned number of firearms.

If it such a necessity how do all these other countries cope without all these readily available guns? In many European countries, it is VERY difficult to obtain a gun legally, and their are far less gun crimes than in America.
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[QUOTE="-TheSecondSign-"]

[QUOTE="albi321"]Should be illegal for the most part, guns only bring more violence.albi321

Yes, illegal ones do.

Ask any convict wether or not gun control laws will stop them. They laugh and promote gun control laws because it makes many targets much easier to get to, and there is already a thriving black market for firearms. Banning them or placing heavier restrictions does nothing but make that market more profitable and larger, while significantly diminishing the legally owned number of firearms.

If it such a necessity how do all these other countries cope without all these readily available guns? In many European countries, it is VERY difficult to obtain a gun legally, and their are far less gun crimes than in America.

European countries are not America. Completely different playing field.

Why do you think they just lifted the DC handgun ban? Because it didn't do ****, other than cause the murder rate and crime rates to skyrocket. It didn't protect ANYONE.

Gunbans do not work in America, and even if they did, just because one person uses something for crime doesn't mean you ban it.

Why should I, a responsible owner of five seperate guns, have to be punished for another man's act?

I guess we shouldn't be allowed outside after dark, since most people commit crimes at night, there should be national curfews.

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Why don't people realize that if guns are illegal, then only people who would use them to kill will have them? Getting rid of guns will just make it easier on criminals, because they won't have to worry if the person whose house they're breaking into will have the means to kill them...

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#47 albi321
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[QUOTE="albi321"][QUOTE="-TheSecondSign-"]

[QUOTE="albi321"]Should be illegal for the most part, guns only bring more violence.-TheSecondSign-

Yes, illegal ones do.

Ask any convict wether or not gun control laws will stop them. They laugh and promote gun control laws because it makes many targets much easier to get to, and there is already a thriving black market for firearms. Banning them or placing heavier restrictions does nothing but make that market more profitable and larger, while significantly diminishing the legally owned number of firearms.

If it such a necessity how do all these other countries cope without all these readily available guns? In many European countries, it is VERY difficult to obtain a gun legally, and their are far less gun crimes than in America.

European countries are not America. Completely different playing field.

Why do you think they just lifted the DC handgun ban? Because it didn't do ****, other than cause the murder rate and crime rates to skyrocket. It didn't protect ANYONE.

Gunbans do not work in America, and even if they did, just because one person uses something for crime doesn't mean you ban it.

Why should I, a responsible owner of five seperate guns, have to be punished for another man's act?

I guess we shouldn't be allowed outside after dark, since most people commit crimes at night, there should be national curfews.

Than why aren't drugs, legal? Marijuana and other drugs if used responsibly are not a threat to others or yourself, why should they ban those but keep guns?
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#48 ElZilcho90
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I think the whole stereotype of a gun-crazy America is vastly exaggerated and blown out of proportion.
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[QUOTE="-TheSecondSign-"][QUOTE="albi321"][QUOTE="-TheSecondSign-"]

[QUOTE="albi321"]Should be illegal for the most part, guns only bring more violence.albi321

Yes, illegal ones do.

Ask any convict wether or not gun control laws will stop them. They laugh and promote gun control laws because it makes many targets much easier to get to, and there is already a thriving black market for firearms. Banning them or placing heavier restrictions does nothing but make that market more profitable and larger, while significantly diminishing the legally owned number of firearms.

If it such a necessity how do all these other countries cope without all these readily available guns? In many European countries, it is VERY difficult to obtain a gun legally, and their are far less gun crimes than in America.

European countries are not America. Completely different playing field.

Why do you think they just lifted the DC handgun ban? Because it didn't do ****, other than cause the murder rate and crime rates to skyrocket. It didn't protect ANYONE.

Gunbans do not work in America, and even if they did, just because one person uses something for crime doesn't mean you ban it.

Why should I, a responsible owner of five seperate guns, have to be punished for another man's act?

I guess we shouldn't be allowed outside after dark, since most people commit crimes at night, there should be national curfews.

Than why aren't drugs, legal? Marijuana and other drugs if used responsibly are not a threat to others or yourself, why should they ban those but keep guns?

Pot SHOULD be legal, first of all, it doesn't do **** to any responsible user, it's 1000 times less harmful than the crap tobacco companies push out, and I've never cared enough about heavier drugs, so I don't give a fart.

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#50 Hewkii
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I'm sick of these hippies around the world challenging the second amendment constantly because they fear that guns will somehow form a new human nature trait that will cause death, violence, and war. Well war has been going gone since before guns were invented and if we have guns to defend our selves while cops in britian have hard sticks then that's there fault and downfall.The-King-of-FPS

I have an idea: give everyone nuclear weapons, then no one will have anything to fear.