Anti-g@y beliefs a product of the uneducated?

[QUOTE="jshaas"][QUOTE="GreySeal9"]

Another thread ruined with a petty argument. Where have I seen that before? :roll:

Anyway, I don't think it has as much to do with a lack of education (though it can) as it has to do with a lack of exposure. It's amazing how much more tolerant some people can become if they mingle with gay people and realize that there is nothing wrong with them.

LJS9502_basic

I agree though that the term homophobia is misused.

Oh and to the above user.......one can say any discussion here is petty. So I guess forums aren't your thing?

Some are, some aren't.

I have 10,000+ posts, so obviously forums are my thing.

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]

[QUOTE="jshaas"] This is a very good point here. My SIL lives in NYC and raised in south Georgia. She in no way agrees with the homosexual lifestyle, but she understands that the gay people she works with are just that... people. She's actually helped me gain a new perspective on people in general. I've never been one to be hateful because of someone's lifestyle choices, but my views on homosexuality come from my Faith. She shares the same views, but also knows that God wants us to be relational. It's all about connecting and building trust/love for one another. Then if they wish to follow Jesus they will. On a side note. Can we dismiss the term homophobia? It just doesn't fit. Just because a group of people don't agree or support what another group is doing with their lives, doesn't make the homophobes. If it does, then we should have words like conservative-phobia and liberal-phobia.GreySeal9

I agree though that the term homophobia is misused.

Oh and to the above user.......one can say any discussion here is petty. So I guess forums aren't your thing?

Some are, some aren't.

Forums are fine.

Is it possible someone might just not like what gay people are about? The whole same sex thing yoou know? Not everyone has to be in favor of it, prop 8 didn't pass for a reason in california bluetadomonk

There is a clarification to be made.. The reasons that are made to deny rights are extremely flimsy to outright ridiculous.. Homosexuality makes me uncomfortable at times.. So do ugly couples making out, or extremely old people making out.. That doesn't mean that I have a legitiamte reason to deny them certain things that i see as a right, like marriage.

You'd be surprised by how many seemingly "educated" people still hold some form of bigotted belief whether about race, ethnicity, or sex.

You'd be surprised by how many seemingly "educated" people still hold some form of bigotted belief whether about race, ethnicity, or sex.

sonicare

[QUOTE="sonicare"]

You'd be surprised by how many seemingly "educated" people still hold some form of bigotted belief whether about race, ethnicity, or sex.

LJS9502_basic

I've known people that worked with gay people....but still don't accept them. It's up to how open the individual is.....LJS9502_basic

Nobody has said that exposure to gays is automatically going to make them accept gays, but it can help in the process of accepting gays as people often have negative views of things that are foreign to them.

If they are too close-minded, exposure probably won't help, but it can help in cases in which the person is not too close-minded.

Yes

I agree, but I'm saying, the biggest campaigners in the "anti-gay" race are the Christians. And it was just 1 example, not Law. In the end, I don't care what you are, it's you. It's how you deal with people, no matter thaier creed. Some people feel they should raise their children differently so they don't come out gay I think parents should raise their children differently so they don't come out d**ks to society.

Its mainly a cultural and religious thing, it is not natural to hate. Many cultures have been completely acceptful of homosexuals in the past and present.

In most instances religious intolarance is a very strong factor.

[QUOTE="DJ-PRIME90"]I am strongly against gays. I can stand to be around them but I will not tolerate them showing PDA's or talking about their relationship. It is definitely the way I was raised and it will most definitely be the way I raise my children. A gay person will tell you they were born like thay, but every gay person I've met... If you take a deep look into the way they were raised and how their parents treated them you can see it was all in the way they were raised.dom2000

So you think that hanging out with girls can change a person's orientation? :lol:

[QUOTE="dom2000"][QUOTE="DJ-PRIME90"]I am strongly against gays. I can stand to be around them but I will not tolerate them showing PDA's or talking about their relationship. It is definitely the way I was raised and it will most definitely be the way I raise my children. A gay person will tell you they were born like thay, but every gay person I've met... If you take a deep look into the way they were raised and how their parents treated them you can see it was all in the way they were raised.GreySeal9

So you think that hanging out with girls can change a person's orientation? :lol:

I am strongly against gays. I can stand to be around them but I will not tolerate them showing PDA's or talking about their relationship. It is definitely the way I was raised and it will most definitely be the way I raise my children. A gay person will tell you they were born like thay, but every gay person I've met... If you take a deep look into the way they were raised and how their parents treated them you can see it was all in the way they were raised.DJ-PRIME90

I really doubt you've taken a deep look into the way every gay person you've met was raised.

Even if you did, which I doubt, it wouldn't shed light on anything but the gays you happened to meet.

Is it possible someone might just not like what gay people are about? The whole same sex thing yoou know? Not everyone has to be in favor of it, prop 8 didn't pass for a reason in california bluetadomonk

I don't see how someones sexual orientation should effect how other people think of them. I'm not attracted to females yet I don't try to disassociate myself from people who are.

[QUOTE="GreySeal9"]

[QUOTE="dom2000"] I would agree with this! Every gay i know (about 5) all basically exclusively hang around with girls, and have done from an early age! It does not surprise one bit that they ended up gaymrmusicman247

So you think that hanging out with girls can change a person's orientation? :lol:

Make sure you delete the guys that look like girls as well. I hear they can turn you gay too.

Is it possible someone might just not like what gay people are about? The whole same sex thing yoou know? Not everyone has to be in favor of it, prop 8 didn't pass for a reason in california bluetadomonk

This is an example of a weird double standard.

With straight people, people will never act like their orientation is "what they are all about".

Yet with gays, some people will act their orientation vitally integral to who they are instead of being just another thing about them.

[QUOTE="bluetadomonk"]Is it possible someone might just not like what gay people are about? The whole same sex thing yoou know? Not everyone has to be in favor of it, prop 8 didn't pass for a reason in california GreySeal9

This is an example of a weird double standard.

With straight people, people will never act like their orientation is "what they are all about".

Yet with gays, some people will act their orientation vitally integral to who they are instead of being just another thing about them.

I am strongly against gays. I can stand to be around them but I will not tolerate them showing PDA's or talking about their relationship. It is definitely the way I was raised and it will most definitely be the way I raise my children. A gay person will tell you they were born like thay, but every gay person I've met... If you take a deep look into the way they were raised and how their parents treated them you can see it was all in the way they were raised.DJ-PRIME90

I dont see how being homosexual or having a homosexual kid should be avoided. I think some people tend to find scapegoats wherever they can to avoid facing their real problems.

Educated people are often just as unintelligent as uneducated people, they just find more intricate ways of defending their beliefs.

Anti-gay beliefs are a product of the same as anti-abortion, anti-prevention, and circumcision. They all stem from religion

[QUOTE="worlock77"]

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]Not true. Some Christians....just like some atheists....some agnostics....and some (insert religion here)...yes. But not all Christians are anti gay And not all non Christians are accepting.LJS9502_basic

He said "nine times out of ten". He didn't say "all".

But it's not all. ;)

I am strongly against gays. I can stand to be around them but I will not tolerate them showing PDA's or talking about their relationship. It is definitely the way I was raised and it will most definitely be the way I raise my children. A gay person will tell you they were born like thay, but every gay person I've met... If you take a deep look into the way they were raised and how their parents treated them you can see it was all in the way they were raised.DJ-PRIME90

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/4215427.stm

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2008/06/080628205430.htm

honestly, because it is genetic, people bigotist against gays aren't really different from people who dislike blacks or asians.

[QUOTE="DJ-PRIME90"]I am strongly against gays. I can stand to be around them but I will not tolerate them showing PDA's or talking about their relationship. It is definitely the way I was raised and it will most definitely be the way I raise my children. A gay person will tell you they were born like thay, but every gay person I've met... If you take a deep look into the way they were raised and how their parents treated them you can see it was all in the way they were raised.dom2000

I would say that a lack of education contributes to ignorance regarding certain issues. Of course, one can still be an educated bigot, but I imagine that education and homophobia are negatively correlated.

[QUOTE="chaoscougar1"]

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"] You're rebutting an opinion though.

LJS9502_basic

Though there are some studies that say homosexuality is not as prevalent in cultures that don't have over population.

[QUOTE="GreySeal9"]

Is it possible someone might just not like what gay people are about? The whole same sex thing yoou know? Not everyone has to be in favor of it, prop 8 didn't pass for a reason in california bluetadomonk

This is an example of a weird double standard.

With straight people, people will never act like their orientation is "what they are all about".

Yet with gays, some people will act their orientation vitally integral to who they are instead of being just another thing about them.

Ex-squeeze me? Straight people will never act like that is what their orientation is all about? Ha! Man, I'd love to buy a pair of those rose colored glasses.

Basically, what it boils down to is people.And from what I'm seeing, abunch of YOU people really need to look at yourselves as hard as your looking at these gays that you dispise. That's what your problem is- instead of working on you, you're spending energy trying to convey how much you don't like somebody else.

NEWS FLASH!!! Who gives a flying fudge what you don't like, especially if it's people. I mean, who are you guys? Surely, you must be someone important if you feel you simply MUST explain how/why you don't like guys....

Since this is Gamespot, and not Gaymespot, can we please stop talking about trivial things since it seems NO ONE has ANYTHING worth weight to say on the matter?

Ya'll are some cro-magnons, for realer...

I am strongly against gays. I can stand to be around them but I will not tolerate them showing PDA's or talking about their relationship. It is definitely the way I was raised and it will most definitely be the way I raise my children. A gay person will tell you they were born like thay, but every gay person I've met... If you take a deep look into the way they were raised and how their parents treated them you can see it was all in the way they were raised.DJ-PRIME90

What about families that have children of the same sex and one is gay and the other strait? Siblings of the same sex would have virtually the same upbringing so it's highly unlikely that your idea that homosexuality is caused by how people are raised is true.

There are those who don't understand it and the biological reasoning behind it, and they are uneducated yes.

Then there are those who understand it and just don't like it. They can be educated, uneducated, intelligent scholars, or complete morons. There's nothing you can do about these people and they're entitled to their opinion, although they shouldn't directly force it on others.

Its because of religious people who think Gay is a new thing, a fad.

Truth is that that its a natural thing that has always occured in our species and many more.

They main reason of hatred is because of religious bigotry.

Not nessarly. Part of the reason? Maybe. The entire reason? No

Its because of religious people who think Gay is a new thing, a fad.

Truth is that that its a natural thing that has always occured in our species and many more.

They main reason of hatred is because of religious bigotry.

tenaka2

[QUOTE="tenaka2"]

Its because of religious people who think Gay is a new thing, a fad.

Truth is that that its a natural thing that has always occured in our species and many more.

They main reason of hatred is because of religious bigotry.

ChampionoChumps

Ok, so you see not link between the hatred of homosexuality and religion? Really, are you serious?

[QUOTE="ChampionoChumps"][QUOTE="tenaka2"]

Its because of religious people who think Gay is a new thing, a fad.

Truth is that that its a natural thing that has always occured in our species and many more.

They main reason of hatred is because of religious bigotry.

tenaka2

Ok, so you see not link between the hatred of homosexuality and religion? Really, are you serious?

[QUOTE="tenaka2"]

Its because of religious people who think Gay is a new thing, a fad.

Truth is that that its a natural thing that has always occured in our species and many more.

They main reason of hatred is because of religious bigotry.

ChampionoChumps

[QUOTE="ChampionoChumps"][QUOTE="tenaka2"]

Its because of religious people who think Gay is a new thing, a fad.

Truth is that that its a natural thing that has always occured in our species and many more.

They main reason of hatred is because of religious bigotry.

Ace6301

It's just wrong 2 women kissing is hot but not guys.KalmakXXX

What if the homophobe has OCD and can't stand anomalies? HUGE GENERALIZATION!

jk :P

[QUOTE="KalmakXXX"]It's just wrong 2 women kissing is hot but not guys.Teenaged

[QUOTE="Teenaged"]

[QUOTE="KalmakXXX"]It's just wrong 2 women kissing is hot but not guys.alexside1

Umm, what?

It's just wrong 2 women kissing is hot but not guys.KalmakXXX

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="worlock77"]

He said "nine times out of ten". He didn't say "all".

worlock77

But it's not all. ;)