Anti-g@y beliefs a product of the uneducated?

It is natural bro. Homosexuality is an overpopulation block, same with male to female ratios. When populations are in decline there are more women than men so that they can populate more. When the area is overpopulated more men and homosexuals are produced. I'm pretty sure that I've read that in a study before, maybe not, but that's how I see it. The hate towards homosexuals is a cultural thing. Oh, and it's not an opinion it's lack of education to provide a false hypothesis.ChampionoChumps

[QUOTE="tenaka2"]

[QUOTE="ChampionoChumps"] I know non-religious people who hate homosexuals. Care to explain that? The hatred of homosexuals is a cultural thing just like hating people with other skin colors was a cultural thing in the 50s. Your hatred towards religion completely baffles me. This in no way has to do with religion. It purely has to do what people have been taught in their culture. All people educated in genetics know that it is natural. This is purely a cultural/uneducated phenomena. ChampionoChumps

Ok, so you see not link between the hatred of homosexuality and religion? Really, are you serious?

Every religion calls for intolarance, religion dictates what we should accept and what we should not, what we should do and what we should not do.

Intolarance.

[QUOTE="ChampionoChumps"][QUOTE="tenaka2"]

Ok, so you see not link between the hatred of homosexuality and religion? Really, are you serious?

tenaka2

Every religion calls for intolarance, religion dictates what we should accept and what we should not, what we should do and what we should not do.

Intolarance.

so long as there are differences between people, hatred can born out of that.

simply put.

[QUOTE="ChampionoChumps"][QUOTE="tenaka2"]

Ok, so you see not link between the hatred of homosexuality and religion? Really, are you serious?

tenaka2

Every religion calls for intolarance, religion dictates what we should accept and what we should not, what we should do and what we should not do.

Intolarance.

so long as there are differences between people, hatred can born out of that.

simply put.

SaudiFury

so long as there are differences between people, hatred can born out of that.

simply put.

SaudiFury

[QUOTE="tenaka2"]

[QUOTE="ChampionoChumps"] I accept that some religious people may not accept homosexuals as natural, but I do not accept that religion will make people hate homosexuals. Especially when most religions are for peace and tolerance. ChampionoChumps

Every religion calls for intolarance, religion dictates what we should accept and what we should not, what we should do and what we should not do.

Intolarance.

Limitations, intolarance, call it what you will, fact remains that religion dictates what you can and cannot do.

people hating homosexuality is like people from one religion hating another or the non-believers,

Not only that but so many generations have been brought up to hate homosexuals or disaprove of them, that the only way for this world to accept them more is to wait till those generations die out.

[QUOTE="ChampionoChumps"][QUOTE="tenaka2"]

Every religion calls for intolarance, religion dictates what we should accept and what we should not, what we should do and what we should not do.

Intolarance.

tenaka2

Limitations, intolarance, call it what you will, fact remains that religion dictates what you can and cannot do.

[QUOTE="worlock77"]

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]That's still a majority and I don't buy it......LJS9502_basic

But it's not all. ;)

Yeah, you kinda did. But whatever. These arguments with you get goddamn tiresome.

[QUOTE="tenaka2"]

[QUOTE="ChampionoChumps"] You call it intolerance, I call it limitations. I can do whatever the Hell I want to do, but should I? Governments do the same thing by the way, should we revolt against all governments and turn the world into a giant anarchy?LJS9502_basic

Limitations, intolarance, call it what you will, fact remains that religion dictates what you can and cannot do.

Yet some are based on rational thinking where religion is not. Its very foolish to let an ancient book written buy people with no knowledge of the world we live in dictate the world we live in.

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="worlock77"]

But it's not all. ;)

worlock77

Yeah, you kinda did. But whatever. These arguments with you get goddamn tiresome.

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="tenaka2"]

Limitations, intolarance, call it what you will, fact remains that religion dictates what you can and cannot do.

tenaka2

Yet some are based on rational thinking where religion is not. Its very foolish to let an ancient book written buy people with no knowledge of the world we live in dictate the world we live in.

[QUOTE="ChampionoChumps"][QUOTE="tenaka2"]

Every religion calls for intolarance, religion dictates what we should accept and what we should not, what we should do and what we should not do.

Intolarance.

tenaka2

Limitations, intolarance, call it what you will, fact remains that religion dictates what you can and cannot do.

[QUOTE="tenaka2"]

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]So does the legal system, peer pressure, parental authority, employers, schools....the list goes on.alexside1

Yet some are based on rational thinking where religion is not. Its very foolish to let an ancient book written buy people with no knowledge of the world we live in dictate the world we live in.

The internet was built by the evil science you claim means nothing, im surprised you use it considering that the people that made it are realists.

[QUOTE="tenaka2"]

[QUOTE="ChampionoChumps"] You call it intolerance, I call it limitations. I can do whatever the Hell I want to do, but should I? Governments do the same thing by the way, should we revolt against all governments and turn the world into a giant anarchy?ChampionoChumps

Limitations, intolarance, call it what you will, fact remains that religion dictates what you can and cannot do.

It depends on whether you have a moral compass or depend on the buy bull. Up to you really.

[QUOTE="alexside1"][QUOTE="tenaka2"]

Yet some are based on rational thinking where religion is not. Its very foolish to let an ancient book written buy people with no knowledge of the world we live in dictate the world we live in.

tenaka2

The internet was built by the evil science you claim means nothing, im surprised you use it considering that the people that made it are realists.

[QUOTE="tenaka2"]

[QUOTE="alexside1"] If the internet told me anything is that one man's rational can appear to another man as irrational.LJS9502_basic

The internet was built by the evil science you claim means nothing, im surprised you use it considering that the people that made it are realists.

I wasnt replying to you lj, your own position is already known.

[QUOTE="ChampionoChumps"] It is natural bro. Homosexuality is an overpopulation block, same with male to female ratios. When populations are in decline there are more women than men so that they can populate more. When the area is overpopulated more men and homosexuals are produced. I'm pretty sure that I've read that in a study before, maybe not, but that's how I see it. The hate towards homosexuals is a cultural thing. Oh, and it's not an opinion it's lack of education to provide a false hypothesis.LJS9502_basic

[QUOTE="alexside1"][QUOTE="tenaka2"]

Yet some are based on rational thinking where religion is not. Its very foolish to let an ancient book written buy people with no knowledge of the world we live in dictate the world we live in.

tenaka2

The internet was built by the evil science you claim means nothing, im surprised you use it considering that the people that made it are realists.

Are you going to actually going to debunk my statement or your just going to waste my time with your strawmans?

[QUOTE="tenaka2"]

[QUOTE="alexside1"] If the internet told me anything is that one man's rational can appear to another man as irrational.alexside1

The internet was built by the evil science you claim means nothing, im surprised you use it considering that the people that made it are realists.

Are you going to actually going to debunk my statement or your just going to waste my time with your strawmans?

Your a big fan of strawmen, you give nothing to debunk, you just have a generic statement which adds nothing, a strawman is only used to defunk an argument, you have given no argument.

It's not just a religious belief. It's a commandment of God.wiifan001

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="tenaka2"]

The internet was built by the evil science you claim means nothing, im surprised you use it considering that the people that made it are realists.

tenaka2

I wasnt replying to you lj, your own position is already known.

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]

[QUOTE="ChampionoChumps"] It is natural bro. Homosexuality is an overpopulation block, same with male to female ratios. When populations are in decline there are more women than men so that they can populate more. When the area is overpopulated more men and homosexuals are produced. I'm pretty sure that I've read that in a study before, maybe not, but that's how I see it. The hate towards homosexuals is a cultural thing. Oh, and it's not an opinion it's lack of education to provide a false hypothesis.ChampionoChumps

[QUOTE="ChampionoChumps"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]Again as I said it depends on the criteria used by the individual. You are using a different criteria.

LJS9502_basic

[QUOTE="alexside1"]

[QUOTE="tenaka2"]

The internet was built by the evil science you claim means nothing, im surprised you use it considering that the people that made it are realists.

tenaka2

Are you going to actually going to debunk my statement or your just going to waste my time with your strawmans?

Your a big fan of strawmen, you give nothing to debunk, you just have a generic statement which adds nothing, a strawman is only used to defunk an argument, you have given no argument.

Yup, I'm just wasting my time with someone who reverts to ridiculous accusations/strawmans about me instead of addressing on what I said.

Let me know if your going to address my statements, untill then bye.

Also, defunk? Is that slang or something? Try to debate without slang, because I have never heard of that word before.

[QUOTE="tenaka2"]

[QUOTE="alexside1"]

Are you going to actually going to debunk my statement or your just going to waste my time with your strawmans?

alexside1

Your a big fan of strawmen, you give nothing to debunk, you just have a generic statement which adds nothing, a strawman is only used to defunk an argument, you have given no argument.

Yup, I'm just wasting my time with someone who reverts to ridiculous accusations/strawmans about me instead of addressing on what I said.

Let me know if your going to address my statements, untill then bye.

Also, defunk? Is that slang or something? Try to debate without slang, because I have never heard of that word before.

[QUOTE="alexside1"]

[QUOTE="tenaka2"]

Your a big fan of strawmen, you give nothing to debunk, you just have a generic statement which adds nothing, a strawman is only used to defunk an argument, you have given no argument.

toast_burner

Yup, I'm just wasting my time with someone who reverts to ridiculous accusations/strawmans about me instead of addressing on what I said.

Let me know if your going to address my statements, untill then bye.

Also, defunk? Is that slang or something? Try to debate without slang, because I have never heard of that word before.

The word itself appear on the urban dictionary, how am I suppose to know it's intentional or unintentional? I don't read minds you know.

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]

[QUOTE="ChampionoChumps"] You can't change fact based on criteria. I can't say the world is flat and it is true because I want it to be true, it actually has to be true. ChampionoChumps

[QUOTE="toast_burner"]

[QUOTE="alexside1"]

Yup, I'm just wasting my time with someone who reverts to ridiculous accusations/strawmans about me instead of addressing on what I said.

Let me know if your going to address my statements, untill then bye.

Also, defunk? Is that slang or something? Try to debate without slang, because I have never heard of that word before.

alexside1

The word itself appear on the urban dictionary, how am I suppose to know it's intentional or unintentional? I don't read minds you know.

[QUOTE="alexside1"]

[QUOTE="tenaka2"]

Yup, I'm just wasting my time with someone who reverts to ridiculous accusations/strawmans about me instead of addressing on what I said.

Let me know if your going to address my statements, untill then bye.

Also, defunk? Is that slang or something? Try to debate without slang, because I have never heard of that word before.

tenaka2

You dont know what a strawman is, and you have posted nothing that requires one, sorry for the bad spelling, if thats all you have to grasp on to I feel very sorry for you indeed.

This here:

The internet was built by the evil science you claim means nothing,

tenaka2

is a strawman. I never claim that.

This is what I claim

"one man's rational can appear to another man as irrational."

Now are you going to address it, or continue with the accusation and strawman?

Stop looking down on me, because I mistake it for something else. It's rude.

[QUOTE="ChampionoChumps"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]That's not changing fact....it's changing criteria. You have to first reach a consensus on what the term defines. And as I said....there are several different options for that term.

LJS9502_basic

is a strawman. I never claim that.

This is what I claim

"one man's rational can appear to another man as irrational."

Now are you going to address it, or continue with the accusation and strawman?

Stop locking down on me, because I mistake it for something else. It's rude.

alexside1

I understand that its easier to read 1 simple book and believe a preacher, Id suggest that you have a broader view and expand your knowledge, it may take some effort but at the end of it you would be glad you had.

[QUOTE="alexside1"]

is a strawman. I never claim that.

This is what I claim

"one man's rational can appear to another man as irrational."

Now are you going to address it, or continue with the accusation and strawman?

Stop locking down on me, because I mistake it for something else. It's rude.

tenaka2

I understand that its easier to read 1 simple book and believe a preacher, Id suggest that you have a broader view and expand your knowledge, it may take some effort but at the end of it you would be glad you had.

Will you stop being so difficult and just address it?

[QUOTE="tenaka2"]

[QUOTE="alexside1"]

is a strawman. I never claim that.

This is what I claim

"one man's rational can appear to another man as irrational."

Now are you going to address it, or continue with the accusation and strawman?

Stop locking down on me, because I mistake it for something else. It's rude.

alexside1

I understand that its easier to read 1 simple book and believe a preacher, Id suggest that you have a broader view and expand your knowledge, it may take some effort but at the end of it you would be glad you had.

Will you stop being so difficult and just address it?

Im sorry alex, but you have given nothing to address, I would if I could.

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="ChampionoChumps"] Which term, homosexuality or criteria?ChampionoChumps

[QUOTE="alexside1"]

[QUOTE="tenaka2"]

I understand that its easier to read 1 simple book and believe a preacher, Id suggest that you have a broader view and expand your knowledge, it may take some effort but at the end of it you would be glad you had.

tenaka2

Will you stop being so difficult and just address it?

Im sorry alex, but you have given nothing to address, I would if I could.

[QUOTE="Starshine_M2A2"]

I think that argument is a generalisation because there are also people's moral and religious beliefs to take into account

QWERTYCommander

Im sorry alex, but you have given nothing to address, I would if I could.

tenaka2

[QUOTE="ChampionoChumps"]

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]The criteria....which has to be agreed upon before entering the discussion. If you and another individual are using differing criteria.....the discussion would be pointless since you'd be talking at cross purposes. Do you see that?LJS9502_basic

[QUOTE="Starshine_M2A2"]

I think that argument is a generalisation because there are also people's moral and religious beliefs to take into account

QWERTYCommander

Good point here. Who is to say that the religious beleifs themselves aren't ignorant and uneducated? :shock:

The one political view that I absolutely without exception do not respect is that of the anti-gay crowd. I am usually a very understanding person and respect other's opinions, but denying civil rights to others just because they are not like you or because your religious dogma tells you to? It's just really sick.

[QUOTE="wiifan001"]It's not just a religious belief. It's a commandment of God.Teenaged

[QUOTE="Teenaged"]

[QUOTE="wiifan001"]It's not just a religious belief. It's a commandment of God.wiifan001

Not sure if joking...

hopefully.

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="ChampionoChumps"] Of course I see that, you just lost me on which term you were referring to. Anyways, if someone has wrong criteria then it doesn't matter since they are wrong. The Bible never says that homosexuality is unnatural, it says (in Leviticus, but those laws have been fulfilled) that it is wrong. So, by which criteria is homosexuality unnatural?

ChampionoChumps

[QUOTE="wiifan001"][QUOTE="Teenaged"]Which is a religious belief.

Tokugawa77

Not sure if joking...

hopefully.