Anti-g@y beliefs a product of the uneducated?

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[QUOTE="realguitarhero5"]It's a product of common sense...realguitarhero5

And yeah, if you want to know, my common sense is in favor of same sex relayionships; heterosexual relationships isn't something I relate to. Did I just prove anything?

[QUOTE="realguitarhero5"][QUOTE="toast_burner"]I've had this argument way to many times and I'm getting sick of repeating it. Being gay is not a choice and you have no idea what you're talking about

toast_burner

[QUOTE="realguitarhero5"][QUOTE="toast_burner"]How is discriminating against a group of people with no good reason "common sense"?

Teenaged

And yeah, if you want to know, my common sense is in favor of same sex relayionships; heterosexual relationships isn'y something I relate to. Did I just prove anything?

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[QUOTE="realguitarhero5"]I will pray for you, sir. You are troubled.realguitarhero5

Who told you it was a choice to be gay Can you provede any links with this info as it would clear a lot of things up. Please don't link a fundie religious site if possible.

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[QUOTE="realguitarhero5"]I will pray for you, sir. You are troubled.realguitarhero5

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[QUOTE="realguitarhero5"]How is man on man common sense? Not to get graphically sexual but theres a reason a man and a woman get married and have kids, and not two guys or two girls!realguitarhero5

And yeah, if you want to know, my common sense is in favor of same sex relayionships; heterosexual relationships isn'y something I relate to. Did I just prove anything?

Therefore, neither can you hope to prove anything by using common sense.

I hate this place and everyone hates me. Why is this you ask?

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All things I disagree with are the product of people being less smart then I am.

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I hate this place and everyone hates me. Why is this you ask?

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tenaka2

Because your posts show a lot of bias and ignorance? Your views on homosexuals for example.

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I hate this place and everyone hates me. Why is this you ask?

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realguitarhero5

Because your posts show a lot of bias and ignorance? Your views on homosexuals for example.

You also.

Okay, i'm probably a goddamn homophobe, i don't like gay people and i don't like being around them. It's stronger than me, it's not just that i find the act of gay sex despicable, i also despise girly behavior and girly mannerisms in men (straight people can be like that but it's more common in homosexuals, doesn't matter, i despise them both). Heck, i don't want macho douchebags as friends neither but hey, can't you act like a "normal" guy? On the other hand i don't mind lesbians at all.

That being said, unlike other homophobes i know that my personal prejudices are not a reason at all for taking away their rights. They should have the same rights as everyone else. Why should anyone care about what two grownups do with each other behind closed doors? But then again, the world is full with self-righteous pricks who try to enforce their morals on others so...

All things I disagree with are the product of people being less smart then I am.

Palantas

I hate this place and everyone hates me. Why is this you ask

realguitarhero5

That could be because you have razor thin and critically flawed arguements.

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I hate this place and everyone hates me. Why is this you ask

DroidPhysX

That could be because you have razor thin and critically flawed arguements.

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[QUOTE="realguitarhero5"]

I hate this place and everyone hates me. Why is this you ask

realguitarhero5

That could be because you have razor thin and critically flawed arguements.

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[QUOTE="realguitarhero5"]

I hate this place and everyone hates me. Why is this you ask

realguitarhero5

That could be because you have razor thin and critically flawed arguements.

Are you saying that that being religious automatically makes a person intolarant?

[QUOTE="realguitarhero5"][QUOTE="DroidPhysX"]

That could be because you have razor thin and critically flawed arguements.

tenaka2

Are you saying that that being religious automatically makes a person intolarant?

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[QUOTE="realguitarhero5"]Because if I actually state what I believe and why I get trolled on. So I have to take an approach of someone who has never experienced the love and forgiveness of Christ.realguitarhero5

Are you saying that that being religious automatically makes a person intolarant?

If you actually feel like imposing your views on those you view as perverts (with laws for instance) then yes, you have to. Although no one will really force you.

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[QUOTE="realguitarhero5"]Because if I actually state what I believe and why I get trolled on. So I have to take an approach of someone who has never experienced the love and forgiveness of Christ.realguitarhero5

Are you saying that that being religious automatically makes a person intolarant?

Why not? It will leave more room in heaven for the holy people.

I thought Christ thought love, not hate? Can I ask what Chuch you follow?

[QUOTE="realguitarhero5"][QUOTE="tenaka2"]

Are you saying that that being religious automatically makes a person intolarant?

Teenaged

If you actually feel like imposing your views on those you view as perverts (with laws for instance) then yes, you have to. Although no one will really force you.

[QUOTE="realguitarhero5"][QUOTE="tenaka2"]

Are you saying that that being religious automatically makes a person intolarant?

tenaka2

Why not? It will leave more room in heaven for the holy people.

I thought Christ thought love, not hate? Can I ask what Chuch you follow?

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[QUOTE="realguitarhero5"]So now I have to tolerate those who embrace sexual perversion and are clearly headed to a path of destruction?realguitarhero5

If you actually feel like imposing your views on those you view as perverts (with laws for instance) then yes, you have to. Although no one will really force you.

What exactly is wrong with homosexuality? It would help if you actually give a reason as to why you don't like it.

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[QUOTE="realguitarhero5"]So now I have to tolerate those who embrace sexual perversion and are clearly headed to a path of destruction?realguitarhero5

If you actually feel like imposing your views on those you view as perverts (with laws for instance) then yes, you have to. Although no one will really force you.

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[QUOTE="realguitarhero5"]So now I have to tolerate those who embrace sexual perversion and are clearly headed to a path of destruction?realguitarhero5

Why not? It will leave more room in heaven for the holy people.

I thought Christ thought love, not hate? Can I ask what Chuch you follow?

[QUOTE="realguitarhero5"][QUOTE="Teenaged"]Depends on how far your intolerance goes.

If you actually feel like imposing your views on those you view as perverts (with laws for instance) then yes, you have to. Although no one will really force you.

Teenaged

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[QUOTE="realguitarhero5"]You put it like that.... YES. Because I stand for what's right, not what is popular.realguitarhero5

[QUOTE="realguitarhero5"][QUOTE="Teenaged"]What is right according to you is just your opinion unless you support it with arguments that hold water.

Stavrogin_

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[QUOTE="realguitarhero5"]You put it like that.... YES. Because I stand for what's right, not what is popular.realguitarhero5

You seem to imply that any response to your posts it trolling? Your obviously a religious person and you can obviously quote from scripture, can you find any biblical quote that advocate tolerance and love for your fellow man?

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[QUOTE="realguitarhero5"]You put it like that.... YES. Because I stand for what's right, not what is popular.realguitarhero5

It consists of material that feeds religious beliefs. Religious beliefs differ between individuals. They are respectable but they are not to be imposed to others simply because the person that holds them believes they are true. Unless they are supported with valid arguments, I (and anyone else that disagrees with you) have no reason to share your views.

[QUOTE="realguitarhero5"][QUOTE="Teenaged"]What is right according to you is just your opinion unless you support it with arguments that hold water.

tenaka2

You seem to imply that any response to your posts it trolling? Your obviously a religious person and you can obviously quote from scripture, can you find any biblical quote that advocate tolerance and love for your fellow man?

[QUOTE="Stavrogin_"][QUOTE="realguitarhero5"]I can support it with the Bible. + Leviticus 18:22- You must not have sexual intercourse with a male as one has sexual intercourse with a woman; it is a detestable act. + 1 Corinthians 6:9- Do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived! The sexually immoral, idolaters, adulterers, passive homosexual partners, practicing homosexuals, Let the trolling begin.realguitarhero5

[QUOTE="realguitarhero5"][QUOTE="Teenaged"]What is right according to you is just your opinion unless you support it with arguments that hold water.

tenaka2

You seem to imply that any response to your posts it trolling? Your obviously a religious person and you can obviously quote from scripture, can you find any biblical quote that advocate tolerance and love for your fellow man?

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[QUOTE="realguitarhero5"]I can support it with the Bible. + Leviticus 18:22- You must not have sexual intercourse with a male as one has sexual intercourse with a woman; it is a detestable act. + 1 Corinthians 6:9- Do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived! The sexually immoral, idolaters, adulterers, passive homosexual partners, practicing homosexuals, Let the trolling begin.Teenaged

You seem to imply that any response to your posts it trolling? Your obviously a religious person and you can obviously quote from scripture, can you find any biblical quote that advocate tolerance and love for your fellow man?

Im starting to agree, very few people are that zealous.

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Based upon a 2,000 year old book that he thinks should dictate modern daypolicy making :roll:

When it all boils down, you can have any opinion of gay marriage that you like. However, there is no political precedent to keep it illegal, so thus any personal morals based upon religion should have no effect. Sadly, they do and a minority is still refused civil rights. See how nowadays we are appalled that people once were in favor of segregation? well, within the next fifty years we will feel the same for those who were anti-gay.

realguitarhero5

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[QUOTE="realguitarhero5"]I can support it with the Bible. + Leviticus 18:22- You must not have sexual intercourse with a male as one has sexual intercourse with a woman; it is a detestable act. + 1 Corinthians 6:9- Do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived! The sexually immoral, idolaters, adulterers, passive homosexual partners, practicing homosexuals, Let the trolling begin.realguitarhero5

You seem to imply that any response to your posts it trolling? Your obviously a religious person and you can obviously quote from scripture, can you find any biblical quote that advocate tolerance and love for your fellow man?

Not the Bible. Because the Bible isnt a universal authority on any matter.

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You seem to imply that any response to your posts it trolling? Your obviously a religious person and you can obviously quote from scripture, can you find any biblical quote that advocate tolerance and love for your fellow man?

tenaka2

Im starting to agree, very few people are that zealous.

[QUOTE="realguitarhero5"][QUOTE="tenaka2"]

You seem to imply that any response to your posts it trolling? Your obviously a religious person and you can obviously quote from scripture, can you find any biblical quote that advocate tolerance and love for your fellow man?

Teenaged

Not the Bible. Because the Bible isnt a universal authority on any matter.

Unbelievers aren't allowed into heaven, either.

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[QUOTE="realguitarhero5"]I can support it with the Bible. + Leviticus 18:22- You must not have sexual intercourse with a male as one has sexual intercourse with a woman; it is a detestable act. + 1 Corinthians 6:9- Do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived! The sexually immoral, idolaters, adulterers, passive homosexual partners, practicing homosexuals, Let the trolling begin.realguitarhero5

You seem to imply that any response to your posts it trolling? Your obviously a religious person and you can obviously quote from scripture, can you find any biblical quote that advocate tolerance and love for your fellow man?

It it were a criminal activity then most likely yes, if its a personal issue that hurts nobody then most likely not.

[QUOTE="realguitarhero5"][QUOTE="toast_burner"]It's common sense that someone would want to marry the person they love. It makes no sense for a gay man person to form a relationship with a woman.

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[QUOTE="realguitarhero5"]Theres no reason for a man to be gay in the first place... Its a gradual choice, not DNA bs.Calvin079

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[QUOTE="realguitarhero5"]+ Mark 12:31- The second is this: 'Love your neighbor as yourself.' There is no commandment greater than these." + Luke 6:31- But love your enemies, do good to them, and lend to them without expecting to get anything back. Then your reward will be great, and you will be sons of the Most High, because he is kind to the ungrateful and wicked. + Romans 12:9- Love does no harm to its neighbor. Therefore love is the fulfillment of the law. + Ephesians 4:2- Be completely humble and gentle; be patient, bearing with one another in love. Ok before you start. If you were doing wrong would you not want someone to set you straight?coolbeans90

Not the Bible. Because the Bible isnt a universal authority on any matter.

Unbelievers aren't allowed into heaven, either.

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[QUOTE="realguitarhero5"]Theres no reason for a man to be gay in the first place... Its a gradual choice, not DNA bs.Calvin079

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[QUOTE="realguitarhero5"]Theres no reason for a man to be gay in the first place... Its a gradual choice, not DNA bs.Calvin079

So you think there is no biological drive to have sex?

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[QUOTE="realguitarhero5"]Theres no reason for a man to be gay in the first place... Its a gradual choice, not DNA bs.Calvin079

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[QUOTE="realguitarhero5"]Theres no reason for a man to be gay in the first place... Its a gradual choice, not DNA bs.Calvin079

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[QUOTE="Teenaged"]Personally I would like someone to tell me what is right but I also would like them to use compelling arguments.

Not the Bible. Because the Bible isnt a universal authority on any matter.

Teenaged

Unbelievers aren't allowed into heaven, either.

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Unbelievers aren't allowed into heaven, either.

realguitarhero5

A lot of people would rather lead lives that respect the ideas and opinions of others, if the price of heaven is to be intolarant and judgement of your fellow man, a lot of people would chose to skip it and spend the time we have being decent human beings.

[QUOTE="realguitarhero5"][QUOTE="Teenaged"]I didnt express interest in going to heaven.

tenaka2

A lot of people would rather lead lives that respect the ideas and opinions of others, if the price of heaven is to be intolarant and judgement of your fellow man, a lot of people would chose to skip it and spend the time we have being decent human beings.