Are martial arts effective in street fights ?

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#1 Zensword
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I heard a girl who has a black belt in judo got raped by some guy, so I'm wondering if martial arts really work in real life situations, or they just work in dojo ?
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#2 BluRayHiDef
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Example.

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#3 hadoken
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yes its called krav maga it teaches u how to disarm melee weapons and guns, and use grapples and counters
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#4 Andrew_Xavier
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Depends on the martial art, Krav Maga for instance, is SUPER effective in street fighting.

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#5 Jolt_counter119
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Depends. Boxing, Kickboxing, Muay Thai, etc are pretty effective. Jui Jitsu? Probably not so much unless you and the guy are alone.

As a rule of thumb, if something looks really really cool to do, it probably wouldn't work on the streets.

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#6 Pirate700
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Depends on the person. If you actually have to defend yourself, I wouldn't want to have to rely on martial arts. All your training could go right out the window when the shlt hits the fan.

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#7 fueled-system
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Martial Arts mostly teaches you how to react to various situations in a way that any technique that you could come across you understand a counter for it, but the ability to react to the situation is what is key.

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#8 biggest_loser
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Particularly useful if you can kick-flip off a wall!
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#9 BluRayHiDef
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Somewhat relevant and awesome.

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#10 IustitiaMaximus
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I've never been in a real fist fight but my Dad has. He said the only thing that really translated from karate to a street fight was the correct form of punch.

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#11 biggest_loser
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I've never been in a real fist fight but my Dad has. He said the only thing that really translated from karate to a street fight was the correct form of punch.

IustitiaMaximus
Whatever happened to the ol' 'aim low and go' technique?!
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Example.

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#13 Kocelot
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Depends on the Martial Art. but any art can be used if you practice.

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#14 one_plum
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That rapist was probably another martial artist or caught her in a vulnerable situation.

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#15 IustitiaMaximus
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[QUOTE="IustitiaMaximus"]

I've never been in a real fist fight but my Dad has. He said the only thing that really translated from karate to a street fight was the correct form of punch.

biggest_loser

Whatever happened to the ol' 'aim low and go' technique?!

If I ever get in trouble that will be my method. Or the twist and squeeze.

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Somewhat relevant and awesome.

BluRayHiDef
cudnt they all charge and tackle him instead 1v1?
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.. Martial Arts = ANY systematic fighting style or system.. From Boxing, wrestling, to eastern styles..
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I heard a girl who has a black belt in judo got raped by some guy, so I'm wondering if martial arts really work in real life situations, or they just work in dojo ?Zensword

1. She's a girl. Not to be sexist, but that's rather big disadvantage in a fight.

2. Belts are almost meaningless and are rarely a good indication of skill.

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[QUOTE="BluRayHiDef"]

Somewhat relevant and awesome.

JigglyWiggly_

cudnt they all charge and tackle him instead 1v1?

Well, it is choreographed. However, let's assume that it's real and not choreographed. The purpose of the match is to determine if Chinese Martial Arts - Kunfu is superior to Japanese Martial Arts - Karate. If they just jumped him, there'd be no way to determine which art form is superior because the match would depend on numbers.

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#20 biggest_loser
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[QUOTE="biggest_loser"][QUOTE="IustitiaMaximus"]

I've never been in a real fist fight but my Dad has. He said the only thing that really translated from karate to a street fight was the correct form of punch.

IustitiaMaximus

Whatever happened to the ol' 'aim low and go' technique?!

If I ever get in trouble that will be my method. Or the twist and squeeze.

Ah the ol' squirrel grip lol :P
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#21 GamerForca
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The guy who raped her probably had a distinct size advantage, not to mention he's a man and therefore almost definitely a lot stronger. Besides, Jiu-Jitsu would be much better than Judo at preventing rape (look at some of the positions you're taught in BJJ). If he pounced her and got her to the ground, those Judo skills were probably pretty worthless.
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#22 Jericho_Tanner
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i think that someone who has martial arts training would have an advantage in a fight
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#23 campzor
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Example.

BluRayHiDef
its funny seeing that stance in a 'real life' situation lol
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#24 ad1x2
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If the girl was 5'3 and 100 pounds while the guy was 6'5 and 250 pounds her skills won't do much for her in most cases. You probably should get more details about what exactly happened assuming the story is actually true. A good martial artist could easily hold their own against another person of similar size using street fighting (not the game) in a fair fight but not all fights are fair.

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yes its called krav maga it teaches u how to disarm melee weapons and guns, and use grapples and countershadoken
Yes, and this man knows what he's talking about.
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#26 Shadowchronicle
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yes its called krav maga it teaches u how to disarm melee weapons and guns, and use grapples and countershadoken
Yeah its actually pretty good since its not all about beating people up, its about getting out alive.
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Somewhat relevant and awesome.

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wow thats insane.
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[QUOTE="BluRayHiDef"]

Somewhat relevant and awesome.

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wow thats insane.

old movie, but still great. need insane martial arts movies? ask me.
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#29 noscope-ak47
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Best defense is being aware and not getting into problems. 2nd best is a gun that you are trained with and or real mace. Third is being in shape because martial arts are not very effective if you are weak,slow with no stamina. If you can not win then run.

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#30 Franklinstein
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If you are a black belt, you're hands are legally lethal weapons.
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#31 bebexo
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yes its called krav maga it teaches u how to disarm melee weapons and guns, and use grapples and countershadoken
That's the one where It's pretty much survival right? It'll like teach you if you're in a position like that to use ANYTHING around you as a weapon plus all the disarming and grapples and countering.
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#32 v13_KiiLtz
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Krav Maga, Kick Boxing and Wing Chun are the best imo for street situations.
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#33 lo_Pine
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I did Jeet Kune Do and Aiki-Jujitsu for about two years, I haven't had to use them yet but every one of my friends I ever sparred with in high school never wanted to spar me again after I took those classes lol. They do work.

Jeet-Kune Do is the best martial art by the way (challenge me I dare you!) Do that if its available.

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#34 senses_fail_06
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Not if you are fighting Kimbo Slice.
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#35 hadoken
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[QUOTE="hadoken"]yes its called krav maga it teaches u how to disarm melee weapons and guns, and use grapples and countersbebexo
That's the one where It's pretty much survival right? It'll like teach you if you're in a position like that to use ANYTHING around you as a weapon plus all the disarming and grapples and countering.

yup ur right, thats exactly how jason bourne fights lol. search videos on youtube from expertvillage on krav maga. watching videos wont truly teach you how to do it, but its better than nothing
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[QUOTE="GameGuy642003"][QUOTE="BluRayHiDef"]

Somewhat relevant and awesome.

Kocelot

wow thats insane.

old movie, but still great. need insane martial arts movies? ask me.

LOL. I just realized that you're using a slightly edited version of the GameTrailers avatar.

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#37 TopTierHustler
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Boxing and muaytai yes. BJJ maybe if 1v1.

There's a coupld street fighting martial arts, the most notible krav maga, and the one I know Hapkido.

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Im a black belt in tae kwon do, and ive lost every fight ive ever been in. One time, i tried to do a jump spinning roundhouse kick in a fight. the guy just tackled me as soon as he could dodge it. Most of the time, the opponent doesnt wait for you to do your fancy kicks and moves. he just rushes you and tackles you. so unless you are a wrestler, know krav maga (because, as one user said its VERY effective) or your into mma/ufc, your not gonna stand a chance in a real street fight. for the most part anyway

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#39 deactivated-5d0e4d67d0988
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A shot to the nuts trumps all martial arts.

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#40 lo_Pine
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A shot to the nuts trumps all martial arts.

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He will have hit you in the face two times even if you are able to do that
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#41 deactivated-5d0e4d67d0988
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[QUOTE="October_Tide"]

A shot to the nuts trumps all martial arts.

lo_Pine

He will have hit you in the face two times even if you are able to do that

Still, if that doesn't bring you down and you get a hit in, then you still win.

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#42 lo_Pine
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[QUOTE="lo_Pine"][QUOTE="October_Tide"]

A shot to the nuts trumps all martial arts.

October_Tide

He will have hit you in the face two times even if you are able to do that

Still, if that doesn't bring you down and you get a hit in, then you still win.

How would you hit him in the nuts? With a punch? That would be stupid you would get kicked in the face. So the only other way to do it is to kick him in the nuts, and to make a man dropping hit to the nuts with a kick is harder than hitting someone in the face. It is very fast.
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[QUOTE="October_Tide"]

[QUOTE="lo_Pine"] He will have hit you in the face two times even if you are able to do that lo_Pine

Still, if that doesn't bring you down and you get a hit in, then you still win.

How would you hit him in the nuts? With a punch? That would be stupid you would get kicked in the face. So the only other way to do it is to kick him in the nuts, and to make a man dropping hit to the nuts with a kick is harder than hitting someone in the face. It is very fast.

A hit to the the nuts doesn't have to be hard and I would assume most people would not be expecting it, because really who wants to fight like a girl?

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#44 lo_Pine
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[QUOTE="lo_Pine"][QUOTE="October_Tide"]

Still, if that doesn't bring you down and you get a hit in, then you still win.

October_Tide

How would you hit him in the nuts? With a punch? That would be stupid you would get kicked in the face. So the only other way to do it is to kick him in the nuts, and to make a man dropping hit to the nuts with a kick is harder than hitting someone in the face. It is very fast.

A hit to the the nuts doesn't have to be hard and I would assume most people would not be expecting it, because really who wants to fight like a girl?

Its not that its fighting like a girl its that if the guy you are fighting is a martial artist to some degree, he would not leave you an open space to hit him the nuts especially. Even if he did, he would see your leg coming because that would be the only thing. If it was your fist then your jaw would be broken and you would be unconscious from a kick to the face.
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#45 punkpunker
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yes, most forms of martial arts is effective in close quarters fight/street fights, however the ones that relies on grappling are not as you might square off in a very tight space most of the time.

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#46 lamprey263
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Bruce Lee designed Jeet Kune Do to be a style tailored for street fighting, because more traditional martial arts styles weren't practical for real world use.
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#47 isaackuhlman
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Im a black belt in tae kwon do, and ive lost every fight ive ever been in. One time, i tried to do a jump spinning roundhouse kick in a fight. the guy just tackled me as soon as he could dodge it. Most of the time, the opponent doesnt wait for you to do your fancy kicks and moves. he just rushes you and tackles you. so unless you are a wrestler, know krav maga (because, as one user said its VERY effective) or your into mma/ufc, your not gonna stand a chance in a real street fight. for the most part anyway

Neo-ganon

I appreciate your honesty. I've never trained any real martial arts, but I wrestled as a real young kid and fought a lot growing up. I have never lost an actual street fight (only to my older brother), and I know many TKD guys who think they are hot stuff who would get waxed by a LOT of guys who are just naturally crazier and better fighters than them. TKD has the tendency to be too slow and too upright. If I ever saw someone trying to kick me, I just grab that leg and take them down. That's worked every time. Most people have no actual fighting skills, but to say martial arts training DOESN'T help is like saying exercise doesn't make you a better athlete. It does, but not ALL people are able to use it correctly when the time comes. Think about how many people play football or soccer or basketball. Not all of them are great at it, but they are better than someone who has never played. So, it just depends on experience, tenacity, and energy. They always say no matter how awesome you are at fighting, there's somebody out there who can beat you.

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#48 isaackuhlman
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P.S. Judo is like upright wrestling, so if a fight goes to the ground, then there's not a lot of training in that realm.

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[QUOTE="October_Tide"]

[QUOTE="lo_Pine"] How would you hit him in the nuts? With a punch? That would be stupid you would get kicked in the face. So the only other way to do it is to kick him in the nuts, and to make a man dropping hit to the nuts with a kick is harder than hitting someone in the face. It is very fast. lo_Pine

A hit to the the nuts doesn't have to be hard and I would assume most people would not be expecting it, because really who wants to fight like a girl?

Its not that its fighting like a girl its that if the guy you are fighting is a martial artist to some degree, he would not leave you an open space to hit him the nuts especially. Even if he did, he would see your leg coming because that would be the only thing. If it was your fist then your jaw would be broken and you would be unconscious from a kick to the face.

You are under the assumption that martial arts magically makes the opponent unable to stop/block/dodge any blows. You are also under the assumption that the blows would do enough damage first time around, they may or may not. Unless you know your opponent, then no fight is that black and white.

Therefore shot to the balls winz teh game. Whether you can land a hit, well that's just another matter.

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#50 OmegaAxl
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what if the rapist was also a martial artist? I've played enough street fighter to know its effective..