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#101 Sajedene
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[QUOTE="Sajedene"][QUOTE="loco145"]What's BS is that Men have no say about to have a children or not....loco145

Yeah they do... if they choose to have sex, they choose the option of the possibility of inception.

And women don't?

They do to... but see... when the child is conceived - it is the woman who has to carry that child for 9 months... now if the man can CHOOSE to do that, I am sure the decision weight would be a lot different. Heck, I'd be more inclined to have kids. No stretch marks, no mood swings, no weight gain, no water retention, no pain. Scientists should get on that quick.
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#102 Funky_Llama
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A man can be kidnapped, tortured and/or forced at gunpoint to and he would still be royally *** having to pay child support for the rest of his life. loco145
I doubt he'd be forced to pay child support in that situation.
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#103 loco145
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[QUOTE="loco145"]

[QUOTE="Sajedene"] Yeah they do... if they choose to have sex, they choose the option of the possibility of inception. Sajedene

And women don't?

They do to... but see... when the child is conceived - it is the woman who has to carry that child for 9 months... now if the man can CHOOSE to do that, I am sure the decision weight would be a lot different. Heck, I'd be more inclined to have kids. No stretch marks, no mood swings, no weight gain, no water retention, no pain. Scientists should get on that quick.

Im sure many men would gladly carry something in his belly for 9 months in exchange for 21 years of monthly pay.

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#104 loco145
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[QUOTE="loco145"]A man can be kidnapped, tortured and/or forced at gunpoint to and he would still be royally *** having to pay child support for the rest of his life. Funky_Llama
I doubt he'd be forced to pay child support in that situation.

They can't force the woman to have an abortion, and once born the children is first, so...

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#105 Sajedene
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[QUOTE="Sajedene"][QUOTE="loco145"]And women don't?

loco145

They do to... but see... when the child is conceived - it is the woman who has to carry that child for 9 months... now if the man can CHOOSE to do that, I am sure the decision weight would be a lot different. Heck, I'd be more inclined to have kids. No stretch marks, no mood swings, no weight gain, no water retention, no pain. Scientists should get on that quick.

Im sure many men would gladly carry something in his belly for 9 months in exchange for 21 years of monthly pay.

You do know after the baby comes out you have to take care of it right? (Breast) feed it, change the diaper x times a day, burp it, buy it clothes, teach it to walk, to talk, teach it morals, help it sleep when it wakes up x times a night because of colic, take it to the doctor for shots, take it to the doctor because it has a cough, etc etc until they move out of the house... and sometimes that is not the case when they reach 21.
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#106 loco145
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Sajedene

You do know after the baby comes out you have to take care of it right? (Breast) feed it, change the diaper x times a day, burp it, buy it clothes, teach it to walk, to talk, teach it morals, help it sleep when it wakes up x times a night because of colic, take it to the doctor for shots, take it to the doctor because it has a cough, etc etc until they move out of the house... and sometimes that is not the case when they reach 21.

They can hire smoneone (if the pay is good enough) or dump him/her to his mother, etc. You know, like many women do.

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#107 Toriko42
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Yeah, double standards suck
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#108 Baconbits2004
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[QUOTE="Sajedene"][QUOTE="Baconbits2004"][QUOTE="Sajedene"] Actually, that is the case... what do you tell a woman who keeps getting beaten up but has a fear of leaving the abusive man because of reasons like "he will change" "he will find me and hurt me" or "he will hurt the kids" -- you tell them, you are deciding your fate by staying with that person. Then you tell them to go watch those inspiring Lifetime movies and say "if they can do it -- so can you"

Why do you only have to tell a woman these things?

Because that is what you brought up to me? Because Lifetime is the network for women (so sayeth their catch phrase)? Maybe you should write to spike TV or Playboy TV and tell them to address abuse of men?

Hmm, don't watch either of those. More of a Golden girls person. (seen every episode ^.^ ) The point I'm trying to make, is that hardly anything is equal for both sexes. whether it's little sympathy for a guy being stuck in a horrid relationship (their own fate), or the fact that there are more cases of women being abused, whether it's guys being made fun of for , or girls being considered 'sexy' when wearing over-sized mens clothing, whether it's waitresses making more money on tips, then the cook in the back, or the general lack of opportunities for male strippers.. there are many things that society as a whole deems appropriate for each gender. And many of them aren't fair for either.
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#109 Sajedene
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[QUOTE="Baconbits2004"][QUOTE="Sajedene"][QUOTE="Baconbits2004"] Why do you only have to tell a woman these things?

Because that is what you brought up to me? Because Lifetime is the network for women (so sayeth their catch phrase)? Maybe you should write to spike TV or Playboy TV and tell them to address abuse of men?

Hmm, don't watch either of those. More of a Golden girls person. (seen every episode ^.^ ) The point I'm trying to make, is that hardly anything is equal for both sexes. whether it's little sympathy for a guy being stuck in a horrid relationship (their own fate), or the fact that there are more cases of women being abused, whether it's guys being made fun of for , or girls being considered 'sexy' when wearing over-sized mens clothing, whether it's waitresses making more money on tips, then the cook in the back, or the general lack of opportunities for male strippers.. there are many things that society as a whole deems appropriate for each gender. And many of them aren't fair for either.

True that. Really, gender bias and inequality exists on both ends. Its sad.
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#110 Sajedene
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[QUOTE="Sajedene"]You do know after the baby comes out you have to take care of it right? (Breast) feed it, change the diaper x times a day, burp it, buy it clothes, teach it to walk, to talk, teach it morals, help it sleep when it wakes up x times a night because of colic, take it to the doctor for shots, take it to the doctor because it has a cough, etc etc until they move out of the house... and sometimes that is not the case when they reach 21.loco145

They can hire smoneone (if the pay is good enough) or dump him/her to his mother, etc. You know, like many women do.

Assumptions and generalizations ftl.
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#111 Baconbits2004
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[QUOTE="Sajedene"][QUOTE="Baconbits2004"][QUOTE="Sajedene"] Because that is what you brought up to me? Because Lifetime is the network for women (so sayeth their catch phrase)? Maybe you should write to spike TV or Playboy TV and tell them to address abuse of men?

Hmm, don't watch either of those. More of a Golden girls person. (seen every episode ^.^ ) The point I'm trying to make, is that hardly anything is equal for both sexes. whether it's little sympathy for a guy being stuck in a horrid relationship (their own fate), or the fact that there are more cases of women being abused, whether it's guys being made fun of for , or girls being considered 'sexy' when wearing over-sized mens clothing, whether it's waitresses making more money on tips, then the cook in the back, or the general lack of opportunities for male strippers.. there are many things that society as a whole deems appropriate for each gender. And many of them aren't fair for either.

True that. Really, gender bias and inequality exists on both ends. Its sad.

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#112 shoeman12
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i think white men are discriminated against a lot more than people say. people seem to think only men can be sexist.
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#113 Toriko42
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i think white men are discriminated against a lot more than people say. people seem to think only men can be sexist.shoeman12
Black men get a lot of flack too, all minority men get more flack then white man do.... Dead beat dads are almost always a minority even though people seem to ignore the fact that's it's not easy for men to hold a job and women can get jobs too... Abuse cases among minorities always demonize the men and never the women...I could go on and on. Minorities are held to such a high double standard.
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#114 Baconbits2004
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Gonna be leaving this thread for quite a while.. might pop back in later. Thought I'd leave you all with this story

Man raped by 3 women

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#115 Toriko42
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" An advocate, who asked not to be named, said if the women were caught the man would have tremendous difficulty prosecuting them for rape as it was impossible to force a man to have sex with a woman. "He has to be a willing party. Especially if he is being held at gunpoint," he said. "There is something more to this story."" Facepalmed right about there
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#116 blooddog28
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If a lady was beating up a man in public, the cop WOULD stop it, and arrest her. the video was FAKE.
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#117 DJ-Lafleur
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Meh, who DOESN'T get discriminated agaisnt? :|

Men do, women do, Afrian Americans do, Asians do, Jews do, and the list can keep on going and going and going...

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#118 Dante2710
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prob a double standard, thats why you have to keep your pimp hand strong at all times
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#119 tofu-lion91
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Im sure many men would gladly carry something in his belly for 9 months in exchange for 21 years of monthly pay.loco145
My dad stops paying maintenance at 18. He's been reducing it for years. The costs my mum fork out for me and matt far outweigh what my dad pays. Men sure like to whinge about child support don't they? I'd prefer to be the guy having to pay a little bit each month rather than the mum landed with the kids and full-time bills of supporting the children.
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#121 LJS9502_basic
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[QUOTE="loco145"]Im sure many men would gladly carry something in his belly for 9 months in exchange for 21 years of monthly pay.tofu-lion91
My dad stops paying maintenance at 18. He's been reducing it for years. The costs my mum fork out for me and matt far outweigh what my dad pays. Men sure like to whinge about child support don't they? I'd prefer to be the guy having to pay a little bit each month rather than the mum landed with the kids and full-time bills of supporting the children.

The custodial parent always pays more support.

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#122 bethwo
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Black, white, cuban, asian, male, female, tall, small, fat, skinny, ugly, beautiful

Everybody gets discriminated against, sadly, we all probably do it daily without even noticing

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[QUOTE="tofu-lion91"][QUOTE="loco145"]Im sure many men would gladly carry something in his belly for 9 months in exchange for 21 years of monthly pay.LJS9502_basic

My dad stops paying maintenance at 18. He's been reducing it for years. The costs my mum fork out for me and matt far outweigh what my dad pays. Men sure like to whinge about child support don't they? I'd prefer to be the guy having to pay a little bit each month rather than the mum landed with the kids and full-time bills of supporting the children.

The custodial parent always pays more support.

So the person who has the kid pays more money?? The person who has the kid already has lots of money from child support. I feel bad for the husbands who have to pay child support if they don't have a good job. They have to pay so much money, obviously not that much money is going to the kid and it's going to the wife. Then if the man can't pay all the money he gets called a deadbeat dad, and everyone hates him and he probably gets fired from his job.
Thats why I never will have kids, I know I will never be able to support a family.
I didn't finish high school and never went to college, so theres no way I'll ever want to create a family.

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#124 LJS9502_basic
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[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]

[QUOTE="tofu-lion91"] My dad stops paying maintenance at 18. He's been reducing it for years. The costs my mum fork out for me and matt far outweigh what my dad pays. Men sure like to whinge about child support don't they? I'd prefer to be the guy having to pay a little bit each month rather than the mum landed with the kids and full-time bills of supporting the children.joshrocks2245

The custodial parent always pays more support.

So the person who has the kid pays more money?? The person who has the kid already has lots of money from child support. I feel bad for the husbands who have to pay child support if they don't have a good job. They have to pay so much money, obviously not that much money is going to the kid and it's going to the wife. Then if the man can't pay all the money he gets called a deadbeat dad, and everyone hates him and he probably gets fired from his job.
Thats why I never will have kids, I know I will never be able to support a family.
I didn't finish high school and never went to college, so theres no way I'll ever want to create a family.

*sigh* Nope. The custodial parent spends more on the child than the courts make the non custodial parent pay. If the man does not have custody and has a bad job he pays very little. See if you can raise a child on $100 a month. Hint: you can't.

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#125 joshrocks2245
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[QUOTE="joshrocks2245"]

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]The custodial parent always pays more support.

LJS9502_basic

So the person who has the kid pays more money?? The person who has the kid already has lots of money from child support. I feel bad for the husbands who have to pay child support if they don't have a good job. They have to pay so much money, obviously not that much money is going to the kid and it's going to the wife. Then if the man can't pay all the money he gets called a deadbeat dad, and everyone hates him and he probably gets fired from his job.
Thats why I never will have kids, I know I will never be able to support a family.
I didn't finish high school and never went to college, so theres no way I'll ever want to create a family.

*sigh* Nope. The custodial parent spends more on the child than the courts make the non custodial parent pay. If the man does not have custody and has a bad job he pays very little. See if you can raise a child on $100 a month. Hint: you can't.

It's been proven that the man always pays a lot. I've heard about it, and if you search for "myth of the deadbeat dad" on google you will see what I'm talking about. They are forced to pay a lot of money even if they have a bad job. Then they still have to pay for bills and food, the courts always screw the man over it seems.

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#126 Sajedene
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[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]

[QUOTE="joshrocks2245"]

So the person who has the kid pays more money?? The person who has the kid already has lots of money from child support. I feel bad for the husbands who have to pay child support if they don't have a good job. They have to pay so much money, obviously not that much money is going to the kid and it's going to the wife. Then if the man can't pay all the money he gets called a deadbeat dad, and everyone hates him and he probably gets fired from his job.
Thats why I never will have kids, I know I will never be able to support a family.
I didn't finish high school and never went to college, so theres no way I'll ever want to create a family.

joshrocks2245

*sigh* Nope. The custodial parent spends more on the child than the courts make the non custodial parent pay. If the man does not have custody and has a bad job he pays very little. See if you can raise a child on $100 a month. Hint: you can't.

It's been proven that the man always pays a lot. I've heard about it, and if you search for "myth of the deadbeat dad" on google you will see what I'm talking about. They are forced to pay a lot of money even if they have a bad job. Then they still have to pay for bills and food, the courts always screw the man over it seems.

You have no idea how much money -- let alone time, effort, emotion, thought, etc is involved in raising children... money alone can not raise a kid.

And just because you can google something - doesn't make it fact. I suggest reading into the sources of the things you google.

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#127 LJS9502_basic
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It's been proven that the man always pays a lot. I've heard about it, and if you search for "myth of the deadbeat dad" on google you will see what I'm talking about. They are forced to pay a lot of money even if they have a bad job. Then they still have to pay for bills and food, the courts always screw the man over it seems.

joshrocks2245

It's not proven. No such thing actually. Child support is a percentage of income. If the individual does NOT have a good job then there is NO WAY he is paying a fair share of the cost to raise a child. I suggest you do some research on how expensive it is to raise children. And yes...there are parents who pay $100 (sometimes less a month) for support.

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#128 Epic__Lulz
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yes in every way.

Women abusing a man = THere are few mens shelter

In Canada by law you are supposed to give preferential treatment when hiring women

Women aren't drafted yet they want ever right

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#129 LJS9502_basic
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yes in every way.

Women abusing a man = THere are few mens shelter

In Canada by law you are supposed to give preferential treatment when hiring women

Women aren't drafted yet they want ever right

Epic__Lulz

They draft in Canada? We draft neither gender here.

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#130 Epic__Lulz
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[QUOTE="Epic__Lulz"]

yes in every way.

Women abusing a man = THere are few mens shelter

In Canada by law you are supposed to give preferential treatment when hiring women

Women aren't drafted yet they want ever right

LJS9502_basic

They draft in Canada? We draft neither gender here.

Uh no. But if there was a draft only men would go. Women would be volunteer basis only

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#131 LJS9502_basic
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[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]

[QUOTE="Epic__Lulz"]

yes in every way.

Women abusing a man = THere are few mens shelter

In Canada by law you are supposed to give preferential treatment when hiring women

Women aren't drafted yet they want ever right

Epic__Lulz

They draft in Canada? We draft neither gender here.

Uh no. But if there was a draft only men would go. Women would be volunteer basis only

I don't deal in ifs.;)

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[QUOTE="Epic__Lulz"]

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]They draft in Canada? We draft neither gender here.

LJS9502_basic

Uh no. But if there was a draft only men would go. Women would be volunteer basis only

I don't deal in ifs.;)

Look at vietnam , WW2. No women were drafted. They never saw combat. If ww3 broke out they would not be drafted

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#133 Sajedene
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[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]

[QUOTE="Epic__Lulz"]

Uh no. But if there was a draft only men would go. Women would be volunteer basis only

Epic__Lulz

I don't deal in ifs.;)

Look at vietnam , WW2. No women were drafted. They never saw combat. If ww3 broke out they would not be drafted

So that's discrimination against women. Plenty of women want to protect and to serve our country and yet you guys wont let us. :(
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#134 joshrocks2245
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[QUOTE="joshrocks2245"]

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]*sigh* Nope. The custodial parent spends more on the child than the courts make the non custodial parent pay. If the man does not have custody and has a bad job he pays very little. See if you can raise a child on $100 a month. Hint: you can't.

Sajedene

It's been proven that the man always pays a lot. I've heard about it, and if you search for "myth of the deadbeat dad" on google you will see what I'm talking about. They are forced to pay a lot of money even if they have a bad job. Then they still have to pay for bills and food, the courts always screw the man over it seems.

You have no idea how much money -- let alone time, effort, emotion, thought, etc is involved in raising children... money alone can not raise a kid.

And just because you can google something - doesn't make it fact. I suggest reading into the sources of the things you google.



Yeah I know it takes a lot of money to raise a kid and I know it takes a lot of time.
Yeah but I have seen facts and it's true that men have to pay more and they get called deadbeats just cause they can't pay for their kids sometime.

Not every man is like a CEO of a company.

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Yeah I know it takes a lot of money to raise a kid and I know it takes a lot of time.
Yeah but I have seen facts and it's true that men have to pay more and they get called deadbeats just cause they can't pay for their kids sometime.

Not every man is like a CEO of a company.

joshrocks2245

Have you raised a child as a single parent? A deadbeat is someone that doesn't pay support on time or at all. Guess what....when a child is hungry he needs food. He doesn't need to hear a parent didn't pay.:|

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#136 Sajedene
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[QUOTE="Sajedene"]

[QUOTE="joshrocks2245"]

It's been proven that the man always pays a lot. I've heard about it, and if you search for "myth of the deadbeat dad" on google you will see what I'm talking about. They are forced to pay a lot of money even if they have a bad job. Then they still have to pay for bills and food, the courts always screw the man over it seems.

joshrocks2245

You have no idea how much money -- let alone time, effort, emotion, thought, etc is involved in raising children... money alone can not raise a kid.

And just because you can google something - doesn't make it fact. I suggest reading into the sources of the things you google.



Yeah I know it takes a lot of money to raise a kid and I know it takes a lot of time.
Yeah but I have seen facts and it's true that men have to pay more and they get called deadbeats just cause they can't pay for their kids sometime.

Not every man is like a CEO of a company.

Right. But not every man pays the same amount of money for child support either. Really... what are you getting at here. What facts are you talking about? Deadbeat dads are dads who skimp out on paying child support when the support given to them by the court is already based on their income. What more do you want?

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#137 Epic__Lulz
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[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]I don't deal in ifs.;)

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Look at vietnam , WW2. No women were drafted. They never saw combat. If ww3 broke out they would not be drafted

So that's discrimination against women. Plenty of women want to protect and to serve our country and yet you guys wont let us. :(

Yes you can. Women can join the military. Women just won't get drafted

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#138 LJS9502_basic
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[QUOTE="Sajedene"][QUOTE="Epic__Lulz"]Look at vietnam , WW2. No women were drafted. They never saw combat. If ww3 broke out they would not be drafted

Epic__Lulz

So that's discrimination against women. Plenty of women want to protect and to serve our country and yet you guys wont let us. :(

Yes you can. Women can join the military. Women just won't get drafted

Dude...no one is getting drafted. Moot point.

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#139 Epic__Lulz
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And the fact that when some sport star divorce he has to pay his ex wife 15k in child support

You don't need 15k a month

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#140 Epic__Lulz
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[QUOTE="Epic__Lulz"]

[QUOTE="Sajedene"] So that's discrimination against women. Plenty of women want to protect and to serve our country and yet you guys wont let us. :(LJS9502_basic

Yes you can. Women can join the military. Women just won't get drafted

Dude...no one is getting drafted. Moot point.

For the last time I am saying if there was ever a draft. I know there wont be one

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#141 Sajedene
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[QUOTE="Sajedene"][QUOTE="Epic__Lulz"]Look at vietnam , WW2. No women were drafted. They never saw combat. If ww3 broke out they would not be drafted

Epic__Lulz

So that's discrimination against women. Plenty of women want to protect and to serve our country and yet you guys wont let us. :(

Yes you can. Women can join the military. Women just won't get drafted

Yeah now we can. Oh but lets start a discussion about women in the front lines or something like that... but then that is a thread on its own. And we've seen that happen. It gets nasty.
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#142 joshrocks2245
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It's been proven that the man always pays a lot. I've heard about it, and if you search for "myth of the deadbeat dad" on google you will see what I'm talking about. They are forced to pay a lot of money even if they have a bad job. Then they still have to pay for bills and food, the courts always screw the man over it seems.

LJS9502_basic

It's not proven. No such thing actually. Child support is a percentage of income. If the individual does NOT have a good job then there is NO WAY he is paying a fair share of the cost to raise a child. I suggest you do some research on how expensive it is to raise children. And yes...there are parents who pay $100 (sometimes less a month) for support.



Yeah it is proven. Just watch this youtube video and you can see how these men get called deadbeat dads and the women make these men famous, and the men get hated just because they don't have a good job and they sometimes can't afford to pay for their kids.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MSlNFCRYyN

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#143 LJS9502_basic
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[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]

[QUOTE="Epic__Lulz"]

Yes you can. Women can join the military. Women just won't get drafted

Epic__Lulz

Dude...no one is getting drafted. Moot point.

For the last time I am saying if there was ever a draft. I know there wont be one

You can't say that though....for the last time.

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#144 Sajedene
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And the fact that when some sport star divorce he has to pay his ex wife 15k in child support

You don't need 15k a month

Epic__Lulz
Income/net worth plus factoring in what the spouse or the child is accustomed to in regards to lifestyle before the divorce ... if the person can afford it, that is how it is determined. Really... get a good lawyer and you can argue for almost anything.
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#145 LJS9502_basic
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[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]

[QUOTE="joshrocks2245"]

It's been proven that the man always pays a lot. I've heard about it, and if you search for "myth of the deadbeat dad" on google you will see what I'm talking about. They are forced to pay a lot of money even if they have a bad job. Then they still have to pay for bills and food, the courts always screw the man over it seems.

joshrocks2245

It's not proven. No such thing actually. Child support is a percentage of income. If the individual does NOT have a good job then there is NO WAY he is paying a fair share of the cost to raise a child. I suggest you do some research on how expensive it is to raise children. And yes...there are parents who pay $100 (sometimes less a month) for support.



Yeah it is proven. Just watch this youtube video and you can see how these men get called deadbeat dads and the women make these men famous, and the men get hated just because they don't have a good job and they sometimes can't afford to pay for their kids.

Youtube? Nope. Dude look kids need food, clothing, and shelter and I have no sympathy for a deadbeat parent that doesn't provide such. Courts set child support BASED ON INCOME. It is affordable for them to pay. Perhaps they shouldn't make babies they don't want to support.

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#146 joshrocks2245
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Yeah I know it takes a lot of money to raise a kid and I know it takes a lot of time.
Yeah but I have seen facts and it's true that men have to pay more and they get called deadbeats just cause they can't pay for their kids sometime.

Not every man is like a CEO of a company.

LJS9502_basic

Have you raised a child as a single parent? A deadbeat is someone that doesn't pay support on time or at all. Guess what....when a child is hungry he needs food. He doesn't need to hear a parent didn't pay.:|

No I haven't, but they say deadbeats are the men who sometimes can't pay for their kid. Yeah but the child does have food if he has his mom. Trust me the women and kid have plenty of money when a man pays child support.

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#147 Epic__Lulz
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[QUOTE="Epic__Lulz"]

And the fact that when some sport star divorce he has to pay his ex wife 15k in child support

You don't need 15k a month

Sajedene

Income/net worth plus factoring in what the spouse or the child is accustomed to in regards to lifestyle before the divorce ... if the person can afford it, that is how it is determined. Really... get a good lawyer and you can argue for almost anything.

It's ridiculous. It doesn't take over 150k a year to raise a child. Hey it's not my problem you divorced the breadwinner. Get a job. I could understand if its like 500 dollars a month but 15k CUT BACK your lifestyle , get a job and take care of your kid.

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#148 LJS9502_basic
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[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]

[QUOTE="joshrocks2245"]


Yeah I know it takes a lot of money to raise a kid and I know it takes a lot of time.
Yeah but I have seen facts and it's true that men have to pay more and they get called deadbeats just cause they can't pay for their kids sometime.

Not every man is like a CEO of a company.

joshrocks2245

Have you raised a child as a single parent? A deadbeat is someone that doesn't pay support on time or at all. Guess what....when a child is hungry he needs food. He doesn't need to hear a parent didn't pay.:|

No I haven't, but they say deadbeats are the men who sometimes can't pay for their kid. Yeah but the child does have food if he has his mom. Trust me the women and kid have plenty of money when a man pays child support.

*sigh* It is the responsibility of BOTH parents to provide for the child. Not one. I'm not going to trust you. I know women that barely get any money for child support.

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#149 Epic__Lulz
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[QUOTE="joshrocks2245"]

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]It's not proven. No such thing actually. Child support is a percentage of income. If the individual does NOT have a good job then there is NO WAY he is paying a fair share of the cost to raise a child. I suggest you do some research on how expensive it is to raise children. And yes...there are parents who pay $100 (sometimes less a month) for support.

LJS9502_basic



Yeah it is proven. Just watch this youtube video and you can see how these men get called deadbeat dads and the women make these men famous, and the men get hated just because they don't have a good job and they sometimes can't afford to pay for their kids.

Youtube? Nope. Dude look kids need food, clothing, and shelter and I have no sympathy for a deadbeat parent that doesn't provide such. Courts set child support BASED ON INCOME. It is affordable for them to pay. Perhaps they shouldn't make babies they don't want to support.

It should be based on Income up to a point. Women should not get 15 k a month for 1 child

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#150 joshrocks2245
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[QUOTE="joshrocks2245"]

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]It's not proven. No such thing actually. Child support is a percentage of income. If the individual does NOT have a good job then there is NO WAY he is paying a fair share of the cost to raise a child. I suggest you do some research on how expensive it is to raise children. And yes...there are parents who pay $100 (sometimes less a month) for support.

LJS9502_basic



Yeah it is proven. Just watch this youtube video and you can see how these men get called deadbeat dads and the women make these men famous, and the men get hated just because they don't have a good job and they sometimes can't afford to pay for their kids.

Youtube? Nope. Dude look kids need food, clothing, and shelter and I have no sympathy for a deadbeat parent that doesn't provide such. Courts set child support BASED ON INCOME. It is affordable for them to pay. Perhaps they shouldn't make babies they don't want to support.

You won't watch the video?? :| Well in the video there is a women talking about deadbeat dads and disrespecting most men, and then a a guy called Glenn Sacks is trying to defend men.
Yeah but maybe the women shouldn't have made babies either if she is going to divorce her husband.