Are Real Men A Dying Breed?

[QUOTE="frannkzappa"]

[QUOTE="Jimn_tonic"]

Maybe Alex Jones is right, and there is stuff in the water that's making us gay..

KingKinect

there is nothing homosexual about admiring the male form.

Isn't that the definition of homosexuality? If you are gay at least admit it.

1 whats wrong with being gay?

2 homosexuality is having a sexual interest in males... i do not.

[QUOTE="LazySloth718"]

Moron,

I understand more about you than you do about yourself. Your identity issues are transparent and quite trivial in fact, granted they probably don't feel trivial, "feel" being %98 of your problems, or more accurately the highly self-destructive postmodern ethos of "feel = be." If you were my son, I'd recommend stoicism as a form of self-therapy, beginning with the manual of epictetus. Could write alot more on the subject but frankly I already have a headache and don't feel like sitting here all day rebutting the emotional tantrums sure to ensue.

The difficulty you are having is understanding the difference between an inferior man and an inferior human being.

An unmanly man might be a great human being, but isn't much of a man.

A woman might be a great human being, but she's terrible at being a man.

Next time you decide to crash a "manly man" thread to chime in, if you are a good and honorable human being, you'll be a little less selfish about protecting your own fragile "unmanly" ego, and leave people free to celebrate themselves.

Then maybe, just maybe, when it comes time for you to celebrate being androgenous or whatever, you won't have some "manly men" crashing your thread to inform you that you seem to be a whiney bitch.

Nuff said

ghoklebutter

Oh, FFS. You have no idea what you're talking about, and acting like you do in this case only makes you look arrogant, insensitive, and clueless. And the reason I say that you don't understand my gender is not that you disagree with me (although you certainly are wrong about me being a guy); rather, it's that you have fundamental misunderstandings of what it actually means to be transgender. You're not even close to understanding any transgender person. How would you feel if I said you were gay, and in response to you disagreeing with that assertion, I'd tell you that I know you better than you know yourself? Rightfully so, you would call me a jerk. Especially if I kept insisting that I'm right and you're just dealing with insecurities.

Anyway, as for the other point, if I meant "human being", I would have said so. But I specifically said that I don't like it when non-masculine men are denigrated for being non-masculine. A non-masculine man deserves as much respect as a man as a masculine man in my view. That's all I'm saying. Please stop putting words in my mouth. 

     Lol your balls really did drop off, that is hilarious!  

     Lets simplify this for the people who are probably the weaklings who want to justify their weakness...  Real is like organic, the fruit was simply picked and put in a bucket, not having pesticides and put into a big machine and processed to hell.  Real men make their intentions really known, they dont look like actors that speak from a script.  That person is not going to suddenly switch some day, he has no intentions, he just wants to evolve.  Above all he creates order in other people's lives.  Weak men dont know how to do crap for no one, that is why hot chicks dont want them.

     I remember this weakling male was looking at a female and he was sayying he she is a 10 (you can tell he wanted to date her).  But when the subject comes up, she was like "NOOOOO!"  She didnt like him because for one he just cared about sex, big problem.  I guess real men like me who got the attention from that same girl, she adored me to say the least, probably fantasized about me...  Anyways true story, but it was because I never hid my feelings and she liked how up front I was.  Like if I said I was going to drag her across the floor, I did.  

     The more real, the more predictable of a human you are, the more attractive you become to others.  For example if people know you are going text back, they will text you.  But if you never return texts...  Then no point if they cant trust you.  Real men are trustworthy.

[QUOTE="ghoklebutter"]

[QUOTE="LazySloth718"]

Moron,

I understand more about you than you do about yourself. Your identity issues are transparent and quite trivial in fact, granted they probably don't feel trivial, "feel" being %98 of your problems, or more accurately the highly self-destructive postmodern ethos of "feel = be." If you were my son, I'd recommend stoicism as a form of self-therapy, beginning with the manual of epictetus. Could write alot more on the subject but frankly I already have a headache and don't feel like sitting here all day rebutting the emotional tantrums sure to ensue.

The difficulty you are having is understanding the difference between an inferior man and an inferior human being.

An unmanly man might be a great human being, but isn't much of a man.

A woman might be a great human being, but she's terrible at being a man.

Next time you decide to crash a "manly man" thread to chime in, if you are a good and honorable human being, you'll be a little less selfish about protecting your own fragile "unmanly" ego, and leave people free to celebrate themselves.

Then maybe, just maybe, when it comes time for you to celebrate being androgenous or whatever, you won't have some "manly men" crashing your thread to inform you that you seem to be a whiney bitch.

Nuff said

mahlasor

Oh, FFS. You have no idea what you're talking about, and acting like you do in this case only makes you look arrogant, insensitive, and clueless. And the reason I say that you don't understand my gender is not that you disagree with me (although you certainly are wrong about me being a guy); rather, it's that you have fundamental misunderstandings of what it actually means to be transgender. You're not even close to understanding any transgender person. How would you feel if I said you were gay, and in response to you disagreeing with that assertion, I'd tell you that I know you better than you know yourself? Rightfully so, you would call me a jerk. Especially if I kept insisting that I'm right and you're just dealing with insecurities.

Anyway, as for the other point, if I meant "human being", I would have said so. But I specifically said that I don't like it when non-masculine men are denigrated for being non-masculine. A non-masculine man deserves as much respect as a man as a masculine man in my view. That's all I'm saying. Please stop putting words in my mouth. 

     Lol your balls really did drop off, that is hilarious!  

     Lets simplify this for the people who are probably the weaklings who want to justify their weakness...  Real is like organic, the fruit was simply picked and put in a bucket, not having pesticides and put into a big machine and processed to hell.  Real men make their intentions really known, they dont look like actors that speak from a script.  That person is not going to suddenly switch some day, he has no intentions, he just wants to evolve.  Above all he creates order in other people's lives.  Weak men dont know how to do crap for no one, that is why hot chicks dont want them.

     I remember this weakling male was looking at a female and he was sayying he she is a 10 (you can tell he wanted to date her).  But when the subject comes up, she was like "NOOOOO!"  She didnt like him because for one he just cared about sex, big problem.  I guess real men like me who got the attention from that same girl, she adored me to say the least, probably fantasized about me...  Anyways true story, but it was because I never hid my feelings and she liked how up front I was.  Like if I said I was going to drag her across the floor, I did.  

     The more real, the more predictable of a human you are, the more attractive you become to others.  For example if people know you are going text back, they will text you.  But if you never return texts...  Then no point if they cant trust you.  Real men are trustworthy.

[QUOTE="mahlasor"]

[QUOTE="ghoklebutter"]

Oh, FFS. You have no idea what you're talking about, and acting like you do in this case only makes you look arrogant, insensitive, and clueless. And the reason I say that you don't understand my gender is not that you disagree with me (although you certainly are wrong about me being a guy); rather, it's that you have fundamental misunderstandings of what it actually means to be transgender. You're not even close to understanding any transgender person. How would you feel if I said you were gay, and in response to you disagreeing with that assertion, I'd tell you that I know you better than you know yourself? Rightfully so, you would call me a jerk. Especially if I kept insisting that I'm right and you're just dealing with insecurities.

Anyway, as for the other point, if I meant "human being", I would have said so. But I specifically said that I don't like it when non-masculine men are denigrated for being non-masculine. A non-masculine man deserves as much respect as a man as a masculine man in my view. That's all I'm saying. Please stop putting words in my mouth. 

MrPraline

     Lol your balls really did drop off, that is hilarious!  

     Lets simplify this for the people who are probably the weaklings who want to justify their weakness...  Real is like organic, the fruit was simply picked and put in a bucket, not having pesticides and put into a big machine and processed to hell.  Real men make their intentions really known, they dont look like actors that speak from a script.  That person is not going to suddenly switch some day, he has no intentions, he just wants to evolve.  Above all he creates order in other people's lives.  Weak men dont know how to do crap for no one, that is why hot chicks dont want them.

     I remember this weakling male was looking at a female and he was sayying he she is a 10 (you can tell he wanted to date her).  But when the subject comes up, she was like "NOOOOO!"  She didnt like him because for one he just cared about sex, big problem.  I guess real men like me who got the attention from that same girl, she adored me to say the least, probably fantasized about me...  Anyways true story, but it was because I never hid my feelings and she liked how up front I was.  Like if I said I was going to drag her across the floor, I did.  

     The more real, the more predictable of a human you are, the more attractive you become to others.  For example if people know you are going text back, they will text you.  But if you never return texts...  Then no point if they cant trust you.  Real men are trustworthy.

lol

i'm not sure i like this thread anymore...

Just gonna repeat what I wrote earlier, since people are using weird examples. This is what makes a man a real man; being humble, yet confident, honest and dependable, respectful and sincere. It's not rocket science.m25105

I am a really feminine man, and I really look down upon "manly" men and this whole macho mentality. "Hey, let's not show our feelings, sweat a lot, and pound beers and watch football." To me, it just seems old fashioned and bizarre. It totally has to do with me being raised by my mom and my artistic interests. 

I straighten my hair, and I enjoy eyeliner and stuff on occasion. I'm also straight. -shocking-

Also, there was an interesting article awhile back that showed two pictures of the same man. One with more feminine features, one with more manly ones. Women overwhelmingly pick feminine men. Works for me.

I am a really feminine man, and I really look down upon "manly" men and this whole macho mentality. "Hey, let's not show our feelings, sweat a lot, and pound beers and watch football." To me, it just seems old fashioned and bizarre. It totally has to do with me being raised by my mom and my artistic interests. 

I straighten my hair, and I enjoy eyeliner and stuff on occasion. I'm also straight. -shocking-

Also, there was an interesting article awhile back that showed two pictures of the same man. One with more feminine features, one with more manly ones. Women overwhelmingly pick feminine men. Works for me.

Shmiity

[QUOTE="mahlasor"]

MrPraline

     The fact that you could not dispute it, means I win.  See, you are resisting what is good for you, people tend to gravitate towards convenience, like mcdonalds.  But they dont realise how inconvenient it is.  You have to drive there, pay a good deal of money for a really small meal, and you did not get any omega fatty acids, vitamins, and minerals.  Mcdonalds should logically speaking never exist, yet everyone seems to go there...  Against their own interests, just like how people will do a sex change operation..  There is nothing in it for you, just becoming a miserable secret and social outcast.  No one is going to trust someone who can change that dramatically.

     Here is what is wrong with weakling men, just today one quit half way through the shift, all because last night we worked 12 hours.  So he thinks that today was going to be the same thing, so he left as soon as he could not stand the heat.  Turns out, we only worked nine hours and spent the rest of the time casually cleaning.  That is your example of a weakling male who has no direction, no aim, no goals, real men are goal oriented.  Females gravitate towards real men because they want a guy who will not just whimp out whenever a situation becomes too inconvenient to them.  I have seen this so many times, they never give a crap about anything but themselves.  And they wonder why they can never keep a girls attention.

     Anyways, your response is always predictable, you just make a spiteful sentence without any logic and hope it sticks.  You are a simpelton.  Oh well, you can take a back seat in society while the real men take over.  We are taking over, the weakling males are not to be tolerated anymore.  Females are casting them out, males are making fun out of them.  When I say females, I am talking about real females.  They are smart enough to not deal with the nice guy.  So honestly, real men were declining for a while, but we are going to come back.

     I think everyone wants to be a real man, but becaues it takes critical thinking and effort, they stop trying.  It really is not that hard, it just seems hard if you have never done it.  Just like anything really.  There is loot to obtain, womenz to roll over, what are you waiting for?  Christmas?

I am a really feminine man, and I really look down upon "manly" men and this whole macho mentality. "Hey, let's not show our feelings, sweat a lot, and pound beers and watch football." To me, it just seems old fashioned and bizarre. It totally has to do with me being raised by my mom and my artistic interests. 

I straighten my hair, and I enjoy eyeliner and stuff on occasion. I'm also straight. -shocking-

Also, there was an interesting article awhile back that showed two pictures of the same man. One with more feminine features, one with more manly ones. Women overwhelmingly pick feminine men. Works for me.

Shmiity

  I think you have a prejudice there, also an overgeneralisation about being manly.  I show my feelings all the time, I sweat because it is hot out?  I dont drink beer that often and dont really care about games.  How is football old fashioned, it is relatively need in history.  I appreciate your honesty.  This highlights the problem, a lot of single moms out there raising males...  And they dont know how to raise a male to know how to express themselves.  They are only getting one side.  Being masculine just means you dont cave in to every feeling so easily, you know how to express feelings in an orderly way without breaking down all the time.  

[QUOTE="Shmiity"]

I am a really feminine man, and I really look down upon "manly" men and this whole macho mentality. "Hey, let's not show our feelings, sweat a lot, and pound beers and watch football." To me, it just seems old fashioned and bizarre. It totally has to do with me being raised by my mom and my artistic interests. 

I straighten my hair, and I enjoy eyeliner and stuff on occasion. I'm also straight. -shocking-

Also, there was an interesting article awhile back that showed two pictures of the same man. One with more feminine features, one with more manly ones. Women overwhelmingly pick feminine men. Works for me.

mahlasor

  I think you have a prejudice there, also an overgeneralisation about being manly.  I show my feelings all the time, I sweat because it is hot out?  I dont drink beer that often and dont really care about games.  How is football old fashioned, it is relatively need in history.  I appreciate your honesty.  This highlights the problem, a lot of single moms out there raising males...  And they dont know how to raise a male to know how to express themselves.  They are only getting one side.  Being masculine just means you dont cave in to every feeling so easily, you know how to express feelings in an orderly way without breaking down all the time.  

I am totally biased, definitely. But my interests/beliefs were shaped over time. I got turned off from athletics when I was about 11. My whole point is that metrosexuality is totally fine, and that I tend to lean in that direction. Men shouldnt be afraid to look good- take interests in fashion, and the arts/sensitivities. You can still be straight and enjoy pedicures. I'm not surprised at how many people  just write me off as gay. Also, being a musician just makes me want to rebel against the things I hate. Those being macho/manly ideas and gender roles. 

[QUOTE="Shmiity"]

I am a really feminine man, and I really look down upon "manly" men and this whole macho mentality. "Hey, let's not show our feelings, sweat a lot, and pound beers and watch football." To me, it just seems old fashioned and bizarre. It totally has to do with me being raised by my mom and my artistic interests. 

I straighten my hair, and I enjoy eyeliner and stuff on occasion. I'm also straight. -shocking-

Also, there was an interesting article awhile back that showed two pictures of the same man. One with more feminine features, one with more manly ones. Women overwhelmingly pick feminine men. Works for me.

cheese_game619

Ouch, my feelings. And what makes you think I don't have one? This is the internet. I could have made this entire thing up and you'd have no idea. 

[QUOTE="mahlasor"]

[QUOTE="Shmiity"]

I am a really feminine man, and I really look down upon "manly" men and this whole macho mentality. "Hey, let's not show our feelings, sweat a lot, and pound beers and watch football." To me, it just seems old fashioned and bizarre. It totally has to do with me being raised by my mom and my artistic interests. 

I straighten my hair, and I enjoy eyeliner and stuff on occasion. I'm also straight. -shocking-

Also, there was an interesting article awhile back that showed two pictures of the same man. One with more feminine features, one with more manly ones. Women overwhelmingly pick feminine men. Works for me.

Shmiity

  I think you have a prejudice there, also an overgeneralisation about being manly.  I show my feelings all the time, I sweat because it is hot out?  I dont drink beer that often and dont really care about games.  How is football old fashioned, it is relatively need in history.  I appreciate your honesty.  This highlights the problem, a lot of single moms out there raising males...  And they dont know how to raise a male to know how to express themselves.  They are only getting one side.  Being masculine just means you dont cave in to every feeling so easily, you know how to express feelings in an orderly way without breaking down all the time.  

I am totally biased, definitely. But my interests/beliefs were shaped over time. I got turned off from athletics when I was about 11. My whole point is that metrosexuality is totally fine, and that I tend to lean in that direction. Men shouldnt be afraid to look good- take interests in fashion, and the arts/sensitivities. You can still be straight and enjoy pedicures. I'm not surprised at how many people  just write me off as gay. Also, being a musician just makes me want to rebel against the things I hate. Those being macho/manly ideas and gender roles. 

  You obviously have a distorted concept of being male, it isnt some narrow thing, not that narrow anyways.  The bottom line though, you need to have some power/authority.  Athletic strength is on such form of power.  There is a reason why stip clubs exist, but male stippers do not exist.  I am a male and I look really good, seriously women get really hormonal over me.  Being male does not mean you dress as plain as possible, and ffs dont wear baggy clothes.  Pedicures are complety irrelevant and so is make up.  Just google Alexander the Great, that is an accurate representation of me.  I am also not a fan of having grass hair.  I love my clothes to be unique and stuff.  Being masculine is really interesting.

There definitely has been a good amount of feminizing of men if that's what you mean.

[QUOTE="Shmiity"]

[QUOTE="mahlasor"]

  I think you have a prejudice there, also an overgeneralisation about being manly.  I show my feelings all the time, I sweat because it is hot out?  I dont drink beer that often and dont really care about games.  How is football old fashioned, it is relatively need in history.  I appreciate your honesty.  This highlights the problem, a lot of single moms out there raising males...  And they dont know how to raise a male to know how to express themselves.  They are only getting one side.  Being masculine just means you dont cave in to every feeling so easily, you know how to express feelings in an orderly way without breaking down all the time.  

mahlasor

I am totally biased, definitely. But my interests/beliefs were shaped over time. I got turned off from athletics when I was about 11. My whole point is that metrosexuality is totally fine, and that I tend to lean in that direction. Men shouldnt be afraid to look good- take interests in fashion, and the arts/sensitivities. You can still be straight and enjoy pedicures. I'm not surprised at how many people  just write me off as gay. Also, being a musician just makes me want to rebel against the things I hate. Those being macho/manly ideas and gender roles. 

  You obviously have a distorted concept of being male, it isnt some narrow thing, not that narrow anyways.  The bottom line though, you need to have some power/authority.  Athletic strength is on such form of power.  There is a reason why stip clubs exist, but male stippers do not exist.  I am a male and I look really good, seriously women get really hormonal over me.  Being male does not mean you dress as plain as possible, and ffs dont wear baggy clothes.  Pedicures are complety irrelevant and so is make up.  Just google Alexander the Great, that is an accurate representation of me.  I am also not a fan of having grass hair.  I love my clothes to be unique and stuff.  Being masculine is really interesting.

[QUOTE="Shmiity"]

[QUOTE="mahlasor"]

I think you have a prejudice there, also an overgeneralisation about being manly. I show my feelings all the time, I sweat because it is hot out? I dont drink beer that often and dont really care about games. How is football old fashioned, it is relatively need in history. I appreciate your honesty. This highlights the problem, a lot of single moms out there raising males... And they dont know how to raise a male to know how to express themselves. They are only getting one side. Being masculine just means you dont cave in to every feeling so easily, you know how to express feelings in an orderly way without breaking down all the time.

mahlasor

I am totally biased, definitely. But my interests/beliefs were shaped over time. I got turned off from athletics when I was about 11. My whole point is that metrosexuality is totally fine, and that I tend to lean in that direction. Men shouldnt be afraid to look good- take interests in fashion, and the arts/sensitivities. You can still be straight and enjoy pedicures. I'm not surprised at how many people just write me off as gay. Also, being a musician just makes me want to rebel against the things I hate. Those being macho/manly ideas and gender roles.

You obviously have a distorted concept of being male, it isnt some narrow thing, not that narrow anyways. The bottom line though, you need to have some power/authority. Athletic strength is on such form of power. There is a reason why stip clubs exist, but male stippers do not exist. I am a male and I look really good, seriously women get really hormonal over me. Being male does not mean you dress as plain as possible, and ffs dont wear baggy clothes. Pedicures are complety irrelevant and so is make up. Just google Alexander the Great, that is an accurate representation of me. I am also not a fan of having grass hair. I love my clothes to be unique and stuff. Being masculine is really interesting.

That is saying alot when Alexander the Great had homosexual encounters and relationships..

i'm going to post more pictures of Sergio Oliva as this thread is going nowhere.

that is a real man.

That is saying alot when Alexander the Great had homosexual encounters and relationships..

sSubZerOo

[QUOTE="sSubZerOo"]

That is saying alot when Alexander the Great had homosexual encounters and relationships..

Ace6301

Because that completely contradicts the entire idea of what being "manly" supposedly is.. At least in this thread.

How is a body like that functional? What can he do with all those muscles that's worthwhile?

applesxc47

everything you and i can do.

proper body builders are extremely flexible and agile.

*Pictures of the huge dude*

frannkzappa

How is a body like that functional? Is there anything worthwhile that he can do to earn those?

[QUOTE="Ace6301"][QUOTE="sSubZerOo"]

That is saying alot when Alexander the Great had homosexual encounters and relationships..

sSubZerOo

Because that completely contradicts the entire idea of what being "manly" supposedly is.. At least in this thread.

how so?

i'm going to post more pictures of Sergio Oliva as this thread is going nowhere.

that is a real man.

frannkzappa

[QUOTE="frannkzappa"]

i'm going to post more pictures of Sergio Oliva as this thread is going nowhere.

that is a real man.

mmwmwmmwmwmm

he died before his time.

[QUOTE="Ace6301"][QUOTE="sSubZerOo"]

That is saying alot when Alexander the Great had homosexual encounters and relationships..

sSubZerOo

Because that completely contradicts the entire idea of what being "manly" supposedly is.. At least in this thread.

That said Mahlasor isn't worth responding to.Ace6301

[QUOTE="frannkzappa"]

i'm going to post more pictures of Sergio Oliva as this thread is going nowhere.

that is a real man.

mmwmwmmwmwmm

he lives on through his exemplary son: Sergio Oliva Jr.

[QUOTE="Ace6301"]That said Mahlasor isn't worth responding to.MrPraline

[QUOTE="mmwmwmmwmwmm"][QUOTE="frannkzappa"]

i'm going to post more pictures of Sergio Oliva as this thread is going nowhere.

that is a real man.

frannkzappa

he lives on through his exemplary son: Sergio Oliva Jr.

[QUOTE="frannkzappa"]

[QUOTE="mmwmwmmwmwmm"] i bet that man was 10 pounds of muscle away from curing cancer.mmwmwmmwmwmm

he lives on through his exemplary son: Sergio Oliva Jr.

the Oliva's stayed at a healthy and practical size (the ideal that we should all strive towards and work from). modern bodybuilding is grotesque and impractical.

the Oliva's stayed at a healthy and practical size (the ideal that we should all strive towards and work from). modern bodybuilding is grotesque and impractical.

frannkzappa

How are those muscles practical? They can lift cars or something?

[QUOTE="frannkzappa"]

the Oliva's stayed at a healthy and practical size (the ideal that we should all strive towards and work from). modern bodybuilding is grotesque and impractical.

applesxc47

How are those muscles practical? They can lift cars or something?

they can do everything a "normal" sized man can do and more.

not to mention he was very flexible and agile.

[QUOTE="applesxc47"]

[QUOTE="frannkzappa"]

the Oliva's stayed at a healthy and practical size (the ideal that we should all strive towards and work from). modern bodybuilding is grotesque and impractical.

frannkzappa

How are those muscles practical? They can lift cars or something?

they can do everything a "normal" sized man can do and more.

not to mention he was very flexible and agile.

What do they do with their muscles that makes them worth having?

No, we just aren't highlighted.

[QUOTE="frannkzappa"]

[QUOTE="applesxc47"]

How are those muscles practical? They can lift cars or something?

applesxc47

they can do everything a "normal" sized man can do and more.

not to mention he was very flexible and agile.

What do they do with their muscles that makes them worth having?

health, strength, flexibility, all out of the modern day norm.

[QUOTE="applesxc47"]

[QUOTE="frannkzappa"]

they can do everything a "normal" sized man can do and more.

 

not to mention he was very flexible and agile.

frannkzappa

What do they do with their muscles that makes them worth having?

health, strength, flexibility, all out of the modern day norm.

The flexibility and health could be achieved without looking like a balloon, and I mean examples of their strength being used.

[QUOTE="frannkzappa"]

[QUOTE="applesxc47"]

What do they do with their muscles that makes them worth having?

applesxc47

health, strength, flexibility, all out of the modern day norm.

The flexibility and health could be achieved without looking like a balloon, and I mean examples of their strength being used.

he was a cop... so i imagine the strength came in handy.

yeah i've never been in a situation where i was like damn it would be so nice right now if i had 300 pounds of muscle.mmwmwmmwmwmm

Sergio never weighed anywhere near that much. he stayed near 235 pounds. 255 was the max he ever got(and that was for a competition).

he was a cop... so i imagine the strength came in handy.

frannkzappa

Like lifting cars or breaking walls like Robocop or something? Because otherwise, there's nothing that couldn't be done without looking like that.

[QUOTE="mmwmwmmwmwmm"]yeah i've never been in a situation where i was like damn it would be so nice right now if i had 300 pounds of muscle.frannkzappa

Sergio never weighed anywhere near that much. he stayed near 235 pounds. 255 was the max he ever got(and that was for a competition).

[QUOTE="frannkzappa"]

he was a cop... so i imagine the strength came in handy.

applesxc47

Like lifting cars or breaking walls like Robovop or something? Because otherwise, there's nothing that couldn't be done without looking like that.

why would you want to be weaker? this man, aside from practicality is a Greek statue, he is the definition of manly beauty.

not to mention that i also praise him for his mind, morals and heroics.

[QUOTE="frannkzappa"]

[QUOTE="mmwmwmmwmwmm"]yeah i've never been in a situation where i was like damn it would be so nice right now if i had 300 pounds of muscle.mmwmwmmwmwmm

Sergio never weighed anywhere near that much. he stayed near 235 pounds. 255 was the max he ever got(and that was for a competition).

[QUOTE="mmwmwmmwmwmm"][QUOTE="frannkzappa"]

Sergio never weighed anywhere near that much. he stayed near 235 pounds. 255 was the max he ever got(and that was for a competition).

frannkzappa