Are Real Men A Dying Breed?

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#351 applesxc47
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why would you want to be weaker? this man, aside from practicality is a Greek statue, he is the definition of manly beauty.

 

not to mention that i also praise him for his mind, morals and heroics.

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I really want to quote The Princess Bride right now. His size was not practical. He may look like he could kill you by eye contact, but his muscles have almost no practical use.

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#352 deactivated-59d151f079814
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[QUOTE="mmwmwmmwmwmm"][QUOTE="frannkzappa"]

Sergio never weighed anywhere near that much. he stayed near 235 pounds. 255 was the max he ever got(and that was for a competition).

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my point stands.

man should always strive towards the ideal.

No they shouldn't if anything that would be counter intuitive depending on their goals.. A long distance runner would never want physique like that.. Nor a swimmer.. Or bicycler.. That doesn't make it the ideal.. A boxer wouldn't want that build either.. He would end up facing guys much taller then him with a longer reach..

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#353 frannkzappa
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also i recall you saying something about being 30 pounds overweight??mmwmwmmwmwmm

yes?my job does not offer me time to perfect my physical form. I never claimed to be a body builder, that doesn't stop me from idealizing what i am not.

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#354 m25105
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Quote from Enson

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#355 frannkzappa
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[QUOTE="frannkzappa"]

why would you want to be weaker? this man, aside from practicality is a Greek statue, he is the definition of manly beauty.

not to mention that i also praise him for his mind, morals and heroics.

applesxc47

I really want to quote The Princess Bride right now. His size was not practical. He may look like he could kill you by eye contact, but his muscles have almost no practical use.

they can do everything you can do, but better in some aspects. it is a downside-less upgrade.

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#356 frannkzappa
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Quote from Enson

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inoue is another example of a man approaching the ideal.

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#357 frannkzappa
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[QUOTE="frannkzappa"]

[QUOTE="mmwmwmmwmwmm"] my point stands.sSubZerOo

man should always strive towards the ideal.

No they shouldn't if anything that would be counter intuitive depending on their goals.. A long distance runner would never want physique like that.. Nor a swimmer.. Or bicycler.. That doesn't make it the ideal.. A boxer wouldn't want that build either.. He would end up facing guys much taller then him with a longer reach..

those are specialties i am talking about the normal physique.

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#358 deactivated-59d151f079814
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[QUOTE="sSubZerOo"]

[QUOTE="frannkzappa"]man should always strive towards the ideal.

frannkzappa

No they shouldn't if anything that would be counter intuitive depending on their goals.. A long distance runner would never want physique like that.. Nor a swimmer.. Or bicycler.. That doesn't make it the ideal.. A boxer wouldn't want that build either.. He would end up facing guys much taller then him with a longer reach..

those are specialties i am talking about the normal physique.

:| How is his build not a speciality? He did it specifically for body building competitions.. Just like the runner for his, the boxer for his, so on and so fourth.

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#359 mmwmwmmwmwmm
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[QUOTE="sSubZerOo"]

[QUOTE="frannkzappa"]man should always strive towards the ideal.

frannkzappa

No they shouldn't if anything that would be counter intuitive depending on their goals.. A long distance runner would never want physique like that.. Nor a swimmer.. Or bicycler.. That doesn't make it the ideal.. A boxer wouldn't want that build either.. He would end up facing guys much taller then him with a longer reach..

those are specialties i am talking about the normal physique.

i'm pretty sure there's nothing practical about being 240 pounds of muscle as a normal physique considering the steroid abuse results in kidney failure like with sergio.
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#360 frannkzappa
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[QUOTE="frannkzappa"]

[QUOTE="sSubZerOo"]

No they shouldn't if anything that would be counter intuitive depending on their goals.. A long distance runner would never want physique like that.. Nor a swimmer.. Or bicycler.. That doesn't make it the ideal.. A boxer wouldn't want that build either.. He would end up facing guys much taller then him with a longer reach..

mmwmwmmwmwmm

those are specialties i am talking about the normal physique.

i'm pretty sure there's nothing practical about being 240 pounds of muscle as a normal physique considering the steroid abuse results in kidney failure like with sergio.

Sergio never ABUSED steroids. his kidney problems were unrelated and genetic.

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#361 frannkzappa
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[QUOTE="frannkzappa"]

[QUOTE="sSubZerOo"]

No they shouldn't if anything that would be counter intuitive depending on their goals.. A long distance runner would never want physique like that.. Nor a swimmer.. Or bicycler.. That doesn't make it the ideal.. A boxer wouldn't want that build either.. He would end up facing guys much taller then him with a longer reach..

sSubZerOo

those are specialties i am talking about the normal physique.

:| How is his build not a speciality? He did it specifically for body building competitions.. Just like the runner for his, the boxer for his, so on and so fourth.

i'm saying ideally that should be the base you work off of.

but that's an ideal world and this is a hypothetical conversation.

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#362 coolbeans90
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this thread was great

also, mahlasor has a vagina

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#363 one_plum
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Maybe it's the effect of the postmodern movement (having only a shallow definition of postmodernism).

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#364 deactivated-5f9e3c6a83e51
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I'm 100% real man.

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#365 Kurushio
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It's definitely subjective, but for most women it probably comes down to a couple of key physical attributes and having a decent job and their own place. If a guy is 6ft tall, a little bit of a build, makes 40K or more (whatever middle class is of the area) and lives on their own would almost always be considered ideal and a "real man" by women. The height and build of a guy is pretty much what most women think of first when they think of a "man". I honestly can not think of any men though saying that want a "real woman" or what that would even be exactly.
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#366 MakeMeaSammitch
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They are, now we got a bunch of metrosexual pansy running around the place and letting women push them around.

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i.e. half the people on this site.

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#367 no-scope-AK47
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I would say yes as the men of the current gen seem more in touch with their feminine side and let women talk side ways to them. Men these days come across limp wristed and a strong man is seen as a threat. You see guys taking almost as much time as women to get dressed and have zero survival skills. The guys today don't know the meaning of responsibility and keeping their word. The meaning of family and real friendship is also lost on them.

Lastly these girly men write checks with their mouths that their ass can't cash and want to cry when they get smacked. Some even go crazy and want to grab guns or knives or call the police, when they opened their pieholes and set things off. Add in the femi and homo factorts and guys are even more confused. A man is not a boy that turned 18. He must be raised by a man and showed the ways of manhood.

Sadly many boys are raised by women who themselves have a daddy complex. Just sad but nobody is really talking about it so I will just leave this alone.

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#368 Gaming-Planet
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What was defined as a "real man" years ago is slowly fadding away. 

There are real men here today, but the way we define them is different now.

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#369 nunovlopes
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Yes, that is correct, it's only me right now.
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#370 mahlasor
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I would say yes as the men of the current gen seem more in touch with their feminine side and let women talk side ways to them. Men these days come across limp wristed and a strong man is seen as a threat. You see guys taking almost as much time as women to get dressed and have zero survival skills. The guys today don't know the meaning of responsibility and keeping their word. The meaning of family and real friendship is also lost on them.

Lastly these girly men write checks with their mouths that their ass can't cash and want to cry when they get smacked. Some even go crazy and want to grab guns or knives or call the police, when they opened their pieholes and set things off. Add in the femi and homo factorts and guys are even more confused. A man is not a boy that turned 18. He must be raised by a man and showed the ways of manhood.

Sadly many boys are raised by women who themselves have a daddy complex. Just sad but nobody is really talking about it so I will just leave this alone.

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  So true especially the feminine men, you can see all the ad hominems they give out, they know they dont have a compelling arguement against me.  All they can do is show spite, even if not backed up.  They are jelous because they know they could not become manly if they tried.  They are inferior males and they know it.  I have done half a dozen jobs, one thing is obvious, people see me as a superior male.  They admire me and everone thinks very highly of me.  Except a little group of weakling males who are highly jelous of me, they dont like that I get all the attention.  Too bad, too sad, dont be mad.

  This thread proves that real men are not dying out, we are back.  All weakling males are being left in the dust, adapt or die.  FORWARD MARCH!  The weakling males are not going to be allowed to reproduce in this new age of males, the feminist are being killed off.  The feminst tried to kill off real men and failed.  Too many people desire men to take over.  I have destroyed them over and over, I have forced them to quit their jobs, got them fired, or made them irrelevant.  

  I was actually hearing my co workers talk about the single mothers  who dont know how to discipline their children.  Not everyone is drinking the Kool Aid.

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#371 Ace6301
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Some posts in this topic are like reading the internal monologue of a kid who just got ran over by the puberty train and are suffering that awkward teenage phase of delusions of grandeur mixed with crippling self-esteem issues.

[QUOTE="Ace6301"]Except in general we tend to support the view of someone being capable of doing things themselves as a positive trait regardless of sex, so why say it's a characteristic of a "real man". It's just a characteristic of a competent human or even animal. What a "real man" is is completely subjective to a culture. The other thing about that argument is that there is almost no one who is incapable of doing anything without spoon feeding. As such it's a useless metric as just about every human passes it. N30F3N1X

Good god. What a load of horseshit.

Please tell me of a culture that considers the first example I made as its model of "real man". I'll be anxiously waiting ;)

Seems like your household. You're "anxiously waiting" for someone to spoonfeed you.