Are you pro-life or pro-choice?

He's implying that if a person doesn't want to raise a child then they should have sex I said people don't always have sex to reproduce. Condoms fail or you get drunk and forget to use one and you end up with an unwanted pregnancy.It's hardly the persons fault she ended up pregnanttoast_burner

If you have sex you should be prepared for any and all consequences.

Man listen to yourself, get drunk and forget to use condom followed by not her fault? I lol'dGazaAli

I did too....

If your pro-death then, what's preventing you from killing yourself?alexside1

[QUOTE="toast_burner"]He's implying that if a person doesn't want to raise a child then they should have sex I said people don't always have sex to reproduce. Condoms fail or you get drunk and forget to use one and you end up with an unwanted pregnancy. It's hardly the persons fault she ended up pregnantJust-Breathe

I had sex with someone I met in a bar. It was a wild one night stand and we had fun. Now I have AIDS and its not my fault.GazaAli

:lol:

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[QUOTE="DroidPhysX"] Did she drop ger drawers when the rapist forced her to drop them?

DroidPhysX

Man listen to yourself, get drunk and forget to use condom followed by not her fault? I lol'dGazaAli

Have you ever been drunk before? What would you say if you wake up after a night of drinking and find out that you slept with someone and impregnated them?

Unwanted pregnancy is an acident you can't blame anyone for it (except if the person was raped)

[QUOTE="DroidPhysX"][QUOTE="racer8dan"]Because the majority of unplanned pregnancies happen that way...:roll:

racer8dan

I'm both. Life is a good thing, and women have the right to choose.

[QUOTE="DroidPhysX"][QUOTE="racer8dan"]Because the majority of unplanned pregnancies happen that way...:roll:

racer8dan

Yes, which is why Republican candidates are now talking about prohibiting abortions even in the case of rape and/or the mother being in mortal danger, because that's not a blip on anyone's radar.

Unwanted pregnancy is an acident you can't blame anyone for it (except if the person was raped)

toast_burner

As a guy, I can be fairly confident in saying that I'll never be pregnant. Women can duke it out and ultimately decide what they want to do on this issue; they're the ones who have to go through the Hell that is pregnancy.

I'm both. Life is a good thing, and women have the right to choose.

theone86

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I'm both. Life is a good thing, and women have the right to choose.

kussese

[QUOTE="Just-Breathe"][QUOTE="toast_burner"]He's implying that if a person doesn't want to raise a child then they should have sex I said people don't always have sex to reproduce. Condoms fail or you get drunk and forget to use one and you end up with an unwanted pregnancy. It's hardly the persons fault she ended up pregnantGazaAli

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[QUOTE="DroidPhysX"] Who said anything about that in the quote? Though i like the deflection.DroidPhysX

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I'm both. Life is a good thing, and women have the right to choose.

Animatronic64

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[QUOTE="DroidPhysX"] Who said anything about that in the quote? Though i like the deflection.theone86

Yes, which is why Republican candidates are now talking about prohibiting abortions even in the case of rape and/or the mother being in mortal danger, because that's not a blip on anyone's radar.

[QUOTE="Animatronic64"][QUOTE="kussese"] You...can't do that. Either you want it to be legal or you don't. :|toast_burner

[QUOTE="DroidPhysX"][QUOTE="racer8dan"]LMAO dude, you guys always play the rapist card as if it's a significant enough number to even blip on my radar.

racer8dan

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[QUOTE="racer8dan"]LMAO dude, you guys always play the rapist card as if it's a significant enough number to even blip on the radar.

racer8dan

Yes, which is why Republican candidates are now talking about prohibiting abortions even in the case of rape and/or the mother being in mortal danger, because that's not a blip on anyone's radar.

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[QUOTE="Animatronic64"] You can. It's called not pushing your belief on everyone else. You'll tell someone what you think, but you won't try to force that view upon anyone else. Animatronic64

I'm never going to get anyone pregnant and have to worry about abortion but I'm still pro-choice

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[QUOTE="DroidPhysX"] Cool story, another post that is completely irrelevant to the question at hand. DroidPhysX

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I'm both. Life is a good thing, and women have the right to choose.

kussese

I want it to be legal, but I'm pro-life because, as I said, life is a good thing.

[QUOTE="kussese"][QUOTE="theone86"]

I'm both. Life is a good thing, and women have the right to choose.

theone86

I want it to be legal, but I'm pro-life because, as I said, life is a good thing.

[QUOTE="kussese"][QUOTE="theone86"]

I'm both. Life is a good thing, and women have the right to choose.

theone86

I want it to be legal, but I'm pro-life because, as I said, life is a good thing.

Or were you being sarcastic...:P

I'm anti-these threads, militantly so in fact. In what way does rehashing this issue every few weeks accomplish anything, entertain anyone, or fail to bore people senseless?

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[QUOTE="kussese"] You...can't do that. Either you want it to be legal or you don't. :|tocool340

I want it to be legal, but I'm pro-life because, as I said, life is a good thing.

Or were you being sarcastic...:P

Well I am pro-choice, but I am not anti-life or pro-death so I consider myself to be pro-life as well.

I'm anti-these threads, militantly so in fact. In what way does rehashing this issue every few weeks accomplish anything, entertain anyone, or fail to bore people senseless?

Frame_Dragger

As a father of two children (3,1), I don't support abortion, especially after seeing both my children in the delivery room. I do want more restriction on how it is performed and more counseling etc. I do support the choice of states deciding this issue by voters, not by federal government. One exception where I support it is incest and rape, and life of the mother. I think that is fairly reasonable position. But having kids does change your opinion, at least with me it did.DevilMightCry

If your opinion was "pro-choice" before having kids, then changed because of the visceral experience of having kids, I'd discount both where public policy is concerned.

OOOoooo

pro-death :D

[QUOTE="DevilMightCry"]As a father of two children (3,1), I don't support abortion, especially after seeing both my children in the delivery room. I do want more restriction on how it is performed and more counseling etc. I do support the choice of states deciding this issue by voters, not by federal government. One exception where I support it is incest and rape, and life of the mother. I think that is fairly reasonable position. But having kids does change your opinion, at least with me it did.Frame_Dragger

If your opinion was "pro-choice" before having kids, then changed because of the visceral experience of having kids, I'd discount both where public policy is concerned.

Throwing this out there; there is an over population problem in the world, on top of abortion lowering crime rates...

I'm pro-life. Personhood begins at conception, since the characteristics of each person are determined at fertilization and develop long after birth. An embryo is not part of the mother's body, since a mother does not possess 23 extra chromosomes nor can she develop an extra heart, an extra brain, or occasionally male genitalia. Therefore, she does not have autonomy over the body of her child because it's not her body.

Pro-choice. If you outlaw abortion all you do is create a black market. So pro-choice for practical reasons.KC_Hokie

[QUOTE="KC_Hokie"]Pro-choice. If you outlaw abortion all you do is create a black market. So pro-choice for practical reasons.fidosim

Pro-choice. If you outlaw abortion all you do is create a black market. So pro-choice for practical reasons.KC_Hokie

That doesn't make sense. If abortion is outlawed, women who would've otherwised had an abortion because it's legal would not. It would also remove much of the pressure that the pro-abortion movement has on pregnant women to abort. It doesn't make any logical sense that a woman who would've not had an abortion would have an abortion simply because it wasn't legal. Abortion would only go down.

I'm pro-life. Personhood begins at conception, since the characteristics of each person are determined at fertilization and develop long after birth. An embryo is not part of the mother's body, since a mother does not possess 23 extra chromosomes nor can she develop an extra heart, an extra brain, or occasionally male genitalia. Therefore, she does not have autonomy over the body of her child because it's not her body.

Genetic_Code

You and your hidden social conservatism.

[QUOTE="KC_Hokie"]Pro-choice. If you outlaw abortion all you do is create a black market. So pro-choice for practical reasons.Genetic_Code

That doesn't make sense. If abortion is outlawed, women who would've otherwised had an abortion because it's legal would not. It would also remove much of the pressure that the pro-abortion movement has on pregnant women to abort. It doesn't make any logical sense that a woman who would've not had an abortion would have an abortion simply because it wasn't legal. Abortion would only go down.

A lot of people who want an abortion will have one regardless of if it's legal or not. The safest way to have an abortion is in an abortion clinic, but by illegalising it they would resort to getting it done by untrained people with insufficient equipment or by drinking a dangerously large amount of alcohol

[QUOTE="KC_Hokie"]Pro-choice. If you outlaw abortion all you do is create a black market. So pro-choice for practical reasons.fidosim

Thats a load of nonsense. The pro-choice movement doesn't pressure people to have an abortion, making things up doesn't help your argument.

toast_burner

Considering the pro-abortion movement advocates abortion as necessary when it's not, I don't think it's always an uncoerced choice.

A lot of people who want an abortion will have one regardless of if it's legal or not. The safest way to have an abortion is in an abortion clinic, but by illegalising it they would resort to getting it done by untrained people with insufficient equipment or by drinking a dangerously large amount of alcohol

toast_burner

I wouldn't know about that.

I'm pro-fessional unquestionable, without a doubt superb
Also full of action, my name should be a verb
My voice will float, on every note

Pro-life because killing people is bad.

Considering the pro-abortion movement advocates abortion as necessary when it's not, I don't think it's always an uncoerced choice.Genetic_Code