Atheists displace nativity scenes in California

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#1 the_plan_man
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Wow.:| A tradition for California for 60 years has been 14 stands displaying the birth of baby Jesus, and now some a-hole atheist group bought out all but two to convince people how much of a "myth" it is. Kind of sad, really. Here's the link: http://www.sddt.com/News/article.cfm?SourceCode=20111213cb&_t=Atheist+messages+displace+park+nativity+scenes

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that's too bad...
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#3 chaoscougar1
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Atheists don't like when religious beliefs are pushed upon them, why would they think it would work the other way around?
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#4 Lonelynight
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Well they bought it so they can do whatever the hell they want with it.
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Bunch of losers...
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#6 Bane_09
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Well they paid for them, they can do whatever they want with those spaces. Doesn't matter why they bought them

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#7 worlock77
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How dare they use the space they purchased in the manner they see fit!

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#8 deactivated-590595a6292ce
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Paying for something and getting it...This is madness!

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#9 Bloodaxe726
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Remember folks, freedom of religion is only okay if you're a Christian!

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#10 Sedin44
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Kinda reminds me of when Shooter bought Happy's house...

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#11 chaoscougar1
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Remember folks, freedom of religion is only okay if you're a Christian!

Bloodaxe726
Atheism is a religion?
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#12 Jolt_counter119
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What a bunch of dicks.

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#13 worlock77
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[QUOTE="Bloodaxe726"]

Remember folks, freedom of religion is only okay if you're a Christian!

chaoscougar1

Atheism is a religion?

Not really, yet atheists are afforded the same freedom of religion as theists are. Imagine that.

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#14 DigitalExile
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They sure did.

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#15 worlock77
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What a bunch of dicks.

Jolt_counter119

How so?

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TC, you seem rather vindictive towards atheism. Are you insecure about your religious beliefs? Did an atheist steal your lunch money? What's the deal?
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[QUOTE="chaoscougar1"][QUOTE="Bloodaxe726"]

Remember folks, freedom of religion is only okay if you're a Christian!

worlock77

Atheism is a religion?

Not really, yet atheists are afforded the same freedom of religion as theists are. Imagine that.

Not really? So you are saying atheism is a form of religion? :?
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#18 the_plan_man
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[QUOTE="worlock77"]

[QUOTE="Jolt_counter119"]

What a bunch of dicks.

How so?

They purposefully bought out a site family's have enjoyed for 60 years just to cram their BS down everyone's throats. I don't care if it IS the "correct" message, that kind of disrespect just pisses me off.
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#19 DigitalExile
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[QUOTE="worlock77"]

[QUOTE="chaoscougar1"] Atheism is a religion?chaoscougar1

Not really, yet atheists are afforded the same freedom of religion as theists are. Imagine that.

Not really? So you are saying atheism is a form of religion? :?

Is non-smoking a form of smoking? no, but they go in the same category...

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[QUOTE="chaoscougar1"][QUOTE="worlock77"]

Not really, yet atheists are afforded the same freedom of religion as theists are. Imagine that.

DigitalExile

Not really? So you are saying atheism is a form of religion? :?

Is non-smoking a form of smoking? no, but they go in the same category...

So what you are saying is; atheists need to be confined to small outdoor areas as to not affect the rest of the population with their second hand atheism?
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#21 deactivated-57e5de5e137a4
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The guy that did it is apparently named Damon Vix. Pretty appropriate name I suppose.

I do agree with the church spokesman that it would make sense to limit rental of that property to city residents. I mean, if some citizens from a nearby city rented it and put up signs saying "San Diego Sucks Santorum" or something, the city would be doing what they could to remove it.

Whatever. I don't live there so my interest is fading...fading...gone.

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#22 dkdk999
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How dare they use the space they purchased in the manner they see fit!

worlock77
no kidding,.I've seen hateful anti-evolution/pro relgion ads on the free way.
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#23 worlock77
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TC, you seem rather vindictive towards atheism. Are you insecure about your religious beliefs? Did an atheist steal your lunch money? What's the deal?Jazz_Fan

It always amazes me that Christians in this country cry about percieved oppression when the founder of their religion told that they would be oppressed for their faith, and early Christians were absolutely brutalized. You guys haven't seen oppression. You live in a society were 85% of the people share your beliefs.

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#24 the_plan_man
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TC, you seem rather vindictive towards atheism. Are you insecure about your religious beliefs? Did an atheist steal your lunch money? What's the deal?Jazz_Fan
I'm not insecure about my beliefs...I am agnostic with a slight lean towards theism/deism. I am just upset with the amount of utter bigotry this group seems to have against everybody else.
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[QUOTE="Jazz_Fan"]TC, you seem rather vindictive towards atheism. Are you insecure about your religious beliefs? Did an atheist steal your lunch money? What's the deal?worlock77

It always amazes me that Christians in this country cry about percieved oppression when the founder of their religion told that they would be oppressed for their faith, and early Christians were absolutely brutalized. You guys haven't seen oppression. You live in a society were 85% of the people share your beliefs.

And the relevance of that is?
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#26 worlock77
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[QUOTE="worlock77"]

[QUOTE="Jolt_counter119"]

What a bunch of dicks.

the_plan_man

How so?

They purposefully bought out a site family's have enjoyed for 60 years just to cram their BS down everyone's throats. I don't care if it IS the "correct" message, that kind of disrespect just pisses me off.

And setting up 14 nativity scenes in the same area hasn't been craming it down everyone's throats?

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#27 dkdk999
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[QUOTE="Jazz_Fan"]TC, you seem rather vindictive towards atheism. Are you insecure about your religious beliefs? Did an atheist steal your lunch money? What's the deal?the_plan_man
I'm not insecure about my beliefs...I am agnostic with a slight lean towards theism/deism. I am just upset with the amount of utter bigotry this group seems to have against everybody else.

:lol: :lol: oh please your killing me. :lol: atheists are one of the most hated groups.
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#28 the_plan_man
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[QUOTE="worlock77"]

[QUOTE="the_plan_man"][QUOTE="worlock77"]

How so?

They purposefully bought out a site family's have enjoyed for 60 years just to cram their BS down everyone's throats. I don't care if it IS the "correct" message, that kind of disrespect just pisses me off.

And setting up 14 nativity scenes in the same area hasn't been craming it down everyone's throats?

There's nothing too evangelising about that at all. It's just a scene of Jesus being born...it doesn't dehumanize everybody who doesn't believe in it. It's just a re-creation of what happened over 2000 years ago of a man, who many people of all beliefs did remarkable things.
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#29 DigitalExile
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[QUOTE="DigitalExile"]

[QUOTE="chaoscougar1"] Not really? So you are saying atheism is a form of religion? :?chaoscougar1

Is non-smoking a form of smoking? no, but they go in the same category...

So what you are saying is; atheists need to be confined to small outdoor areas as to not affect the rest of the population with their second hand atheism?

If you want to completely ignore my point and logic and instead be a smart arse then yes go right ahead and assume I meant that.

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#31 chaoscougar1
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[QUOTE="worlock77"]

[QUOTE="the_plan_man"] They purposefully bought out a site family's have enjoyed for 60 years just to cram their BS down everyone's throats. I don't care if it IS the "correct" message, that kind of disrespect just pisses me off.the_plan_man

And setting up 14 nativity scenes in the same area hasn't been craming it down everyone's throats?

There's nothing too evangelising about that at all. It's just a scene of Jesus being born...it doesn't dehumanize everybody who doesn't believe in it. It's just a re-creation of what happened over 2000 years ago of a man, who many people of all beliefs did remarkable things.

Of all beliefs? Might be stretching it a little there...
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[QUOTE="chaoscougar1"][QUOTE="DigitalExile"]Is non-smoking a form of smoking? no, but they go in the same category...

DigitalExile

So what you are saying is; atheists need to be confined to small outdoor areas as to not affect the rest of the population with their second hand atheism?

If you want to completely ignore my point and logic and instead be a smart arse then yes go right ahead and assume I meant that.

Just making a joke, chill the f*ck out :?
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[QUOTE="DigitalExile"]

[QUOTE="chaoscougar1"] So what you are saying is; atheists need to be confined to small outdoor areas as to not affect the rest of the population with their second hand atheism?chaoscougar1

If you want to completely ignore my point and logic and instead be a smart arse then yes go right ahead and assume I meant that.

Just making a joke, chill the f*ck out :?

I am "chill". Did you see any irrational swearing or name calling? I sho' didn't.

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#35 the_plan_man
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I strongly support separation of church and state. Believe what you want but that doesn't mean it's not silly.hummer700
I'm for separation of your beliefs and everybody else's beliefs. Let's leave everybody else's beliefs alone.

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[QUOTE="chaoscougar1"][QUOTE="DigitalExile"]If you want to completely ignore my point and logic and instead be a smart arse then yes go right ahead and assume I meant that.

DigitalExile

Just making a joke, chill the f*ck out :?

I am "chill". Did you see any irrational swearing or name calling? I sho' didn't.

Technically you covered both those points by calling me a "smart arse" haha

I guess the irrationality of it is subjective ^.^

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Thats pretty sad. Man I remember when I was that bitter and senseless about Christianity.
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#38 dkdk999
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[QUOTE="Jazz_Fan"]TC, you seem rather vindictive towards atheism. Are you insecure about your religious beliefs? Did an atheist steal your lunch money? What's the deal?the_plan_man
I'm not insecure about my beliefs...I am agnostic with a slight lean towards theism/deism. I am just upset with the amount of utter bigotry this group seems to have against everybody else.

I don't believe you really. I think you definatly do have an irrational bias against atheism. What do you think about I don't know religous wars going on in the middle east. And ugh I don't know the westboro babtist church. There is an insane amount of utter bigotry religous groups have against everyone less. It was ILLEGAL to be an atheist throughout most of human history for goodness sake.
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Pretty much my opinion of the situation.

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#41 THE_DRUGGIE
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[QUOTE="the_plan_man"][QUOTE="worlock77"]

How so?

worlock77

They purposefully bought out a site family's have enjoyed for 60 years just to cram their BS down everyone's throats. I don't care if it IS the "correct" message, that kind of disrespect just pisses me off.

And setting up 14 nativity scenes in the same area hasn't been craming it down everyone's throats?

No, it's, like, enriching, or something like that.

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[QUOTE="dkdk999"][QUOTE="the_plan_man"][QUOTE="Jazz_Fan"] This story is the atheist equivilant of evangelical Christians boycotting Harry Potter. It's just not where they should be.[QUOTE="hummer700"][QUOTE="the_plan_man"]

I strongly support separation of church and state. Believe what you want but that doesn't mean it's not silly.hummer700
I'm for separation of your beliefs and everybody else's beliefs. Let's leave everybody else's beliefs alone.

What they did what stupid but nativity scenes shouldn't be there in the first place. Tradition isn't a good excuse.

Whether or not you agree with the message, the ("stupid") majority of Americans believe in Christianity, and there's nothing offensive about the display. Had the message been opposite a Christian billboard that has Jesus on it and says "Turn to me, or burn," I would think "good for them." But what they're doing is just offensive in-of itself.
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[QUOTE="chaoscougar1"][QUOTE="Bloodaxe726"]

Remember folks, freedom of religion is only okay if you're a Christian!

worlock77

Atheism is a religion?

Not really, yet atheists are afforded the same freedom of religion as theists are. Imagine that.

This doesn't have anything to do with freedom. They paid for their view point to be heard, literally. They can do this without paying. lose/lose.
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#44 Shadow4020
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I don't understand the problem. The churches have bought the spaces for 60 years and now someone else did, who cares? Would this be a big deal if this wasn't a religious topic? Probably not.

Things change and traditions end, accept it.

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#45 KiIIyou
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It's always the Aheists.
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#46 Nibroc420
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Lol, "displace nativity scenes" Topic should be called "Others want to use space, and paid to use it, Church complains because they cant force religion at people in as many public spaces"
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#47 LOXO7
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[QUOTE="the_plan_man"][QUOTE="worlock77"]

How so?

worlock77

They purposefully bought out a site family's have enjoyed for 60 years just to cram their BS down everyone's throats. I don't care if it IS the "correct" message, that kind of disrespect just pisses me off.

And setting up 14 nativity scenes in the same area hasn't been craming it down everyone's throats?

It isn't cramming it down anyone's throats if they don't believe. ??
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#49 LOXO7
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It's always the Aheists.KiIIyou
To believe in something you have a name for it. If you don't believe in something what do you name it? Nothing. Not believing is not caring. It doesn't affect you.
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#50 the_plan_man
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[QUOTE="KiIIyou"]It's always the Aheists.LOXO7
To believe in something you have a name for it. If you don't believe in something what do you name it? Nothing. Not believing is not caring. It doesn't affect you.

Clearly you haven't been around many atheists. They forcefully shove their beliefs down your throat (whether you like it or not) and believe you're "dumb" if you don't go along with them.