Atheists displace nativity scenes in California

Atheists don't like when religious beliefs are pushed upon them, why would they think it would work the other way around?chaoscougar1

Bunch of losers...pspdseagle

[QUOTE="LOXO7"][QUOTE="KiIIyou"]It's always the Aheists.the_plan_man

Yeah, generalizing is fun...

Not every atheist or Christian shoves their beliefs down throats, only the most vocal.

It's always the Aheists.KiIIyou

[QUOTE="LOXO7"][QUOTE="KiIIyou"]It's always the Aheists.the_plan_man

[QUOTE="the_plan_man"][QUOTE="dkdk999"] What they did what stupid but nativity scenes shouldn't be there in the first place. Tradition isn't a good excuse.hummer700

They didn't forcefully tear anything down, they put in a request to buy public space to display, they won the raffle, they bought the space.

This country is really getting out of hand. Anybody can do anything they dam well please....all they have to say is "I'm offended" and cry like litte babies and they will get their way.

Nativity scenes come hand in hand with x-mas because x-mas is a Christian holliday. It's like going out to get your favorite hamburger, then come to find out that resturant doesnt sell hamburgers on buns anymore because a certain group was "allergic" to hamburger buns. Bottom line in this scenario, if you are allergic, don't buy it. Same goes for x-mas and nativity scenes, if you don't believe in God and Jesus then A) don't celebrate x-mas or B) Celebrate x-mas in a non religious fashion with your non religious buddy's and family....leave the rest of us alone.

This country is really getting out of hand. Anybody can do anything they dam well please....all they have to say is "I'm offended" and cry like litte babies and they will get their way.

Nativity scenes come hand in hand with x-mas because x-mas is a Christian holliday. It's like going out to get your favorite hamburger, then come to find out that resturant doesnt sell hamburgers on buns anymore because a certain group was "allergic" to hamburger buns. Bottom line in this scenario, if you are allergic, don't buy it. Same goes for x-mas and nativity scenes, if you don't believe in God and Jesus then A) don't celebrate x-mas or B) Celebrate x-mas in a non religious fashion with your non religious buddy's and family....leave the rest of us alone.

ristactionjakso

would you say the same thing if a jewish group had bouth out the signs and placed a menora?

This country is really getting out of hand. Anybody can do anything they dam well please....all they have to say is "I'm offended" and cry like litte babies and they will get their way.

Nativity scenes come hand in hand with x-mas because x-mas is a Christian holliday. It's like going out to get your favorite hamburger, then come to find out that resturant doesnt sell hamburgers on buns anymore because a certain group was "allergic" to hamburger buns. Bottom line in this scenario, if you are allergic, don't buy it. Same goes for x-mas and nativity scenes, if you don't believe in God and Jesus then A) don't celebrate x-mas or B) Celebrate x-mas in a non religious fashion with your non religious buddy's and family....leave the rest of us alone.

ristactionjakso

Again, nobody had anything torn down because they were offended. A group bought space that was raffled out to the public. Had this been anything other than Christmas decoration not a single person in the world would give a single f*ck.

I don't see the problem here

Not sure what anyone's complaining about, they fairly won the spaces in a lottery. :?chessmaster1989

[QUOTE="chessmaster1989"]Not sure what anyone's complaining about, they fairly won the spaces in a lottery. :?the_plan_man

They didn't steal anything. The Christian group had every bit as much chance as the other group to win every space in the raffle.

[QUOTE="chessmaster1989"]Not sure what anyone's complaining about, they fairly won the spaces in a lottery. :?the_plan_man

Atheists don't like when religious beliefs are pushed upon them, why would they think it would work the other way around?chaoscougar1

Because it doesn't matter what political belief you follow, what faith you have, what videogame system you own, or what your favorite color is. Anyone can be a jackass or a hypocrite, regardless of any other defining personality traits.

man... i hate it when people are jerks about their views. Like I hate it when i bring up that im a christian in a conversation and the guy im talking to goes "haha you know that your religion is stupid and there is no god right?" Im a christian, but i never do the same to anybody who holds any other belief. I know that it goes both ways, but we need to find a way for both beliefs to co-exist without demonizing (no pun intended) each other

They are definately trying for website hits. They are trolling christians

[QUOTE="the_plan_man"][QUOTE="chessmaster1989"]Not sure what anyone's complaining about, they fairly won the spaces in a lottery. :?chessmaster1989

[QUOTE="chessmaster1989"]Not sure what anyone's complaining about, they fairly won the spaces in a lottery. :?the_plan_man

[QUOTE="chessmaster1989"][QUOTE="the_plan_man"] They intentionally stole away a spot used by a Christian group for years for the general public to spread an anti-Christian message...I don't think that's a coincidence. LOXO7

By your logic the Christian group is also comprised of terrible people as they also paid to use the space, and paying for something is a bad thing. So maybe it would have been better in your eyes if the Atheist group actually had gone up, and actually stole the space.

People whine about minor occurrences too much.

there are people who actually care about the nativity scene?Seraphy-

They only care because it's Atheists, and they're ruining the sanctity of Christmas.

[QUOTE="LOXO7"]

[QUOTE="chessmaster1989"] They didn't "steal" it because the Christian group had no lawful claim to it to begin with. They got it lawfully, and so it's theirs to do with as they wish (within whatever restrictions apply), regardless of their intent.Bloodaxe726

By your logic the Christian group is also comprised of terrible people as they also paid to use the space, and paying for something is a bad thing. So maybe it would have been better in your eyes if the Atheist group actually had gone up, and actually stole the space.

[QUOTE="Bloodaxe726"]

[QUOTE="LOXO7"] They paid (negative) to hurt others (negative). This is a troll action. A troll on the Internet hurts themselves by wasting their own time and others, while being offensive. I don't think this was the purpose of the religious decorations.

LOXO7

By your logic the Christian group is also comprised of terrible people as they also paid to use the space, and paying for something is a bad thing. So maybe it would have been better in your eyes if the Atheist group actually had gone up, and actually stole the space.

Buying space for your own purpose isn't wasting money to hurt people. Had it been girl scouts buying the space where the nativity scene would normally be would you care at all?

Is this yet another spin attempt to slander a group that numbers several hundred million on the world stage? Seriously, it's getting annoying that so many people jump at any opportunity to call atheists dicks.

there are people who actually care about the nativity scene?Seraphy-

[QUOTE="Jolt_counter119"]

What a bunch of dicks.

worlock77

How so?

Why do you even have to ask? Don't be so daft. Atheists purchased some ad space that Christians have been using for Christmas as a tradition for 60 years, with the sole intention of pissing them off... It's Christmas time. The Christians are trying to celebrate their holiday and mind their holiday. If there were posters accompanying the Nativity scene for the past 60 years saying "Believe or Burn!!", "Atheists will go to hell!!", then I'd say, hey, let the Atheists go wild and retaliate. But it's not, It's a harmless expression of beliefs. And these pricks go out of their way to discourage people's beleif by expressing their lack-there-of, with the sole intention to piss people off. I don't get it? What are they trying to prove? You don't believe anything, wonderful, now why are you acting almost as preachy as the religions you loathe so much? Just let it be. And don't gimee this BS of "dey wanna enlighten teh minds with teh truthhh!!" If you're going to post idiotic anti God symbols at a freakin Christmas Nativity scene thinking CHRISTIANS are going to say "hm. you know what? I don't believe in Jesus! what a crock!", you're a moron.

Is what they did unjust and unfair? No. They got the space fair and square.

But does that make them look any less like pretentious penises? No.

This is the equivalent of, I don't know, some radical Christians buying a spot in a beloved annual science convention that's been going on for 60 years and condemning scientists by saying they're all going to hell and what-not. What are they going to prove? They're just pissing people off. (Except at least these Christians would be advocating the belief of something rather than a lack of, which just sounds silly to do in the first place)

But really, the irony here is that all of the Christians will go on with their life, celebrate their holiday, while all these radical Atheists will have achieved NOTHING and just ostracize themselves even lower on the rungs of society, and go back in their basement to blog about this "victory" on their site. Way to go in making a name for yourself in society, Atheists... This reminds me of the the radical Muslims who f**k everything up for the good Muslims in societey, (and no I'm not saying atheists are like radical Muslims.) Frankly, if I was an Atheist, I would be ashamed.

My best friends are atheists, but I respect them because they don't go stomping out my Nativity scene under my Christmas tree, just as I don't hang a crucifix on their door whenever I enter their house.

[QUOTE="worlock77"]

[QUOTE="Jolt_counter119"]

What a bunch of dicks.

DRAGONPIECEZ

How so?

Why do you even have to ask? Don't be so daft. Atheists purchased some ad space that Christians have been using for Christmas as a tradition for 60 years, with the sole intention of pissing them off... It's Christmas time. The Christians are trying to celebrate their holiday and mind their holiday. If there were posters accompanying the Nativity scene for the past 60 years saying "Believe or Burn!!", "Atheists will go to hell!!", then I'd say, hey, let the Atheists go wild and retaliate. But it's not, It's a harmless expression of beliefs. And these pricks go out of their way to discourage people's beleif by expressing their lack-there-of, with the sole intention to piss people off. I don't get it? What are they trying to prove? You don't believe anything, wonderful, now why are you acting almost as preachy as the religions you loathe so much? Just let it be. And don't gimee this BS of "dey wanna enlighten teh minds with teh truthhh!!" If you're going to post idiotic anti God symbols at a freakin Christmas Nativity scene thinking CHRISTIANS are going to say "hm. you know what? I don't believe in Jesus! what a crock!", you're a moron.

Is what they did unjust and unfair? No. They got the space fair and square.

But does that make them look any less like pretentious penises? No.

This is the equivalent of, I don't know, some radical Christians buying a spot in a beloved annual science convention that's been going on for 60 years and condemning scientists by saying they're all going to hell and what-not. What are they going to prove? They're just pissing people off. (Except at least these Christians would be advocating the belief of something rather than a lack of, which just sounds silly to do in the first place)

But really, the irony here is that all of the Christians will go on with their life, celebrate their holiday, while all these radical Atheists will have achieved NOTHING and just ostracize themselves even lower on the rungs of society, and go back in their basement to blog about this "victory" on their site. Way to go in making a name for yourself in society, Atheists... This reminds me of the the radical Muslims who f**k everything up for the good Muslims in societey, (and no I'm not saying atheists are like radical Muslims.) Frankly, if I was an Atheist, I would be ashamed.

My best friends are atheists, but I respect them because they don't go stomping out my Nativity scene under my Christmas tree, just as I don't hang a crucifix on their door whenever I enter their house.

Yet again, it's okay for Christians to shove their belief system down everyone else's throats for two months a year because of Christmas.

You people lack reading comprehension. There's a differemce between celebrating what you believe and "shoving down your throat"... In this situation, the Atheists are the ones doing the shoving.

wall 'o text

DRAGONPIECEZ

How can an Atheist shove a belief down someone's throat, time and time again in this thread it has been stated that Atheists don't believe anything, and are a lower form of people for it.

You people lack reading comprehension. There's a differemce between celebrating what you believe and "shoving down your throat"... In this situation, the Atheists are the ones doing the shoving.DRAGONPIECEZ

[QUOTE="LOXO7"] Maybe they should stick with their "beliefs" and not waste money for no apparent purpose except to hurt others. Maybe?Lonelynight

@Bloodaxe726 It depends on what the Girl Scouts would of used it for. Nothing, like these people? Yes. I would say the same thing. A tradition of 60 years and then all of a sudden someone else buys the space to not put anything on it? Fair is fair right? But it's not fair because they spent money to do nothing. It's hurting them and others. Like an Internet troll.

Read through the article, and all I can say is lol, troll successful.

People do need to grow up and learn to pick their battles though.

[QUOTE="worlock77"]

[QUOTE="Jolt_counter119"]

What a bunch of dicks.

DRAGONPIECEZ

How so?

Why do you even have to ask? Don't be so daft. Atheists purchased some ad space that Christians have been using for Christmas as a tradition for 60 years, with the sole intention of pissing them off... It's Christmas time. The Christians are trying to celebrate their holiday and mind their holiday. If there were posters accompanying the Nativity scene for the past 60 years saying "Believe or Burn!!", "Atheists will go to hell!!", then I'd say, hey, let the Atheists go wild and retaliate. But it's not, It's a harmless expression of beliefs. And these pricks go out of their way to discourage people's beleif by expressing their lack-there-of, with the sole intention to piss people off. I don't get it? What are they trying to prove? You don't believe anything, wonderful, now why are you acting almost as preachy as the religions you loathe so much? Just let it be. And don't gimee this BS of "dey wanna enlighten teh minds with teh truthhh!!" If you're going to post idiotic anti God symbols at a freakin Christmas Nativity scene thinking CHRISTIANS are going to say "hm. you know what? I don't believe in Jesus! what a crock!", you're a moron.

Is what they did unjust and unfair? No. They got the space fair and square.

But does that make them look any less like pretentious penises? No.

This is the equivalent of, I don't know, some radical Christians buying a spot in a beloved annual science convention that's been going on for 60 years and condemning scientists by saying they're all going to hell and what-not. What are they going to prove? They're just pissing people off. (Except at least these Christians would be advocating the belief of something rather than a lack of, which just sounds silly to do in the first place)

But really, the irony here is that all of the Christians will go on with their life, celebrate their holiday, while all these radical Atheists will have achieved NOTHING and just ostracize themselves even lower on the rungs of society, and go back in their basement to blog about this "victory" on their site. Way to go in making a name for yourself in society, Atheists... This reminds me of the the radical Muslims who f**k everything up for the good Muslims in societey, (and no I'm not saying atheists are like radical Muslims.) Frankly, if I was an Atheist, I would be ashamed.

My best friends are atheists, but I respect them because they don't go stomping out my Nativity scene under my Christmas tree, just as I don't hang a crucifix on their door whenever I enter their house.

^THIS^

seriously. I couldnt have said it better myself

How can an Atheist shove a belief down someone's throat, time and time again in this thread it has been stated that Atheists don't believe anything, and are a lower form of people for it.

Bloodaxe726

They're shoving their belief that religion is a crock... Belief =/= religion. You can be an Atheist and believe something.

And who said they are a lower form of people? Are you refering to where I said they're on the minority in society? Because that's true. That doesn't make them lesser people in any sense of the word, like i said, my best buds are atheists, but yes, they are ostracized for the most part in society and are a minority.

That's not atheism.LOXO7

How can an Atheist shove a belief down someone's throat, time and time again in this thread it has been stated that Atheists don't believe anything, and are a lower form of people for it.

Bloodaxe726

Oh, please. It was one poster and they never said anything like this. Your just making up a problem now.

[QUOTE="DRAGONPIECEZ"]

[QUOTE="worlock77"]

How so?

Neo-ganon

Why do you even have to ask? Don't be so daft. Atheists purchased some ad space that Christians have been using for Christmas as a tradition for 60 years, with the sole intention of pissing them off... It's Christmas time. The Christians are trying to celebrate their holiday and mind their holiday. If there were posters accompanying the Nativity scene for the past 60 years saying "Believe or Burn!!", "Atheists will go to hell!!", then I'd say, hey, let the Atheists go wild and retaliate. But it's not, It's a harmless expression of beliefs. And these pricks go out of their way to discourage people's beleif by expressing their lack-there-of, with the sole intention to piss people off. I don't get it? What are they trying to prove? You don't believe anything, wonderful, now why are you acting almost as preachy as the religions you loathe so much? Just let it be. And don't gimee this BS of "dey wanna enlighten teh minds with teh truthhh!!" If you're going to post idiotic anti God symbols at a freakin Christmas Nativity scene thinking CHRISTIANS are going to say "hm. you know what? I don't believe in Jesus! what a crock!", you're a moron.

Is what they did unjust and unfair? No. They got the space fair and square.

But does that make them look any less like pretentious penises? No.

This is the equivalent of, I don't know, some radical Christians buying a spot in a beloved annual science convention that's been going on for 60 years and condemning scientists by saying they're all going to hell and what-not. What are they going to prove? They're just pissing people off. (Except at least these Christians would be advocating the belief of something rather than a lack of, which just sounds silly to do in the first place)

But really, the irony here is that all of the Christians will go on with their life, celebrate their holiday, while all these radical Atheists will have achieved NOTHING and just ostracize themselves even lower on the rungs of society, and go back in their basement to blog about this "victory" on their site. Way to go in making a name for yourself in society, Atheists... This reminds me of the the radical Muslims who f**k everything up for the good Muslims in societey, (and no I'm not saying atheists are like radical Muslims.) Frankly, if I was an Atheist, I would be ashamed.

My best friends are atheists, but I respect them because they don't go stomping out my Nativity scene under my Christmas tree, just as I don't hang a crucifix on their door whenever I enter their house.

^THIS^

seriously. I couldnt have said it better myself

Neo_Ganon!! Damn, haven't heard from you!! How the hell are ya

[QUOTE="Bloodaxe726"]

How can an Atheist shove a belief down someone's throat, time and time again in this thread it has been stated that Atheists don't believe anything, and are a lower form of people for it.

DRAGONPIECEZ

They're shoving their belief that religion is a crock... Belief =/= religion. You can be an Atheist and believe something.

And who said they are a lower form of people? Are you refering to where I said they're on the minority in society? Because that's true. That doesn't make them lesser people in any sense of the word, like i said, my best buds are atheists, but yes, they are ostracized for the most part in society and are a minority.

"Atheists will have achieved NOTHING and just ostracize themselves even lower on the rungs of society, and go back in their basement to blog about this "victory" on their site. Way to go in making a name for yourself in society, Atheists..."

Your words.

[QUOTE="DRAGONPIECEZ"]

[QUOTE="Bloodaxe726"]

How can an Atheist shove a belief down someone's throat, time and time again in this thread it has been stated that Atheists don't believe anything, and are a lower form of people for it.

Bloodaxe726

They're shoving their belief that religion is a crock... Belief =/= religion. You can be an Atheist and believe something.

And who said they are a lower form of people? Are you refering to where I said they're on the minority in society? Because that's true. That doesn't make them lesser people in any sense of the word, like i said, my best buds are atheists, but yes, they are ostracized for the most part in society and are a minority.

"Atheists will have achieved NOTHING and just ostracize themselves even lower on the rungs of society, and go back in their basement to blog about this "victory" on their site. Way to go in making a name for yourself in society, Atheists..."

Your words.

He's talking about an action. He's not saying that since they beleive in nothing that they are a lower form. And he is referring to the one involved. Like alot of Atheists (and everybody else) hate the Westboro Baptist Church. I could say the same thing about them but I am not saying that about Christians, just those folks.

[QUOTE="DRAGONPIECEZ"]

[QUOTE="Bloodaxe726"]

How can an Atheist shove a belief down someone's throat, time and time again in this thread it has been stated that Atheists don't believe anything, and are a lower form of people for it.

Bloodaxe726

They're shoving their belief that religion is a crock... Belief =/= religion. You can be an Atheist and believe something.

And who said they are a lower form of people? Are you refering to where I said they're on the minority in society? Because that's true. That doesn't make them lesser people in any sense of the word, like i said, my best buds are atheists, but yes, they are ostracized for the most part in society and are a minority.

"Atheists will have achieved NOTHING and just ostracize themselves even lower on the rungs of society, and go back in their basement to blog about this "victory" on their site. Way to go in making a name for yourself in society, Atheists..."

Your words.

Wow, are you for real? Way to misquote me and leave out the part where I said "THESE RADICAL ATHEISTS". Referring to the ones in the article!! Morbo is displeased.

Yet again, it's okay for Christians to shove their belief system down everyone else's throats for two months a year because of Christmas.

Bloodaxe726

that's it. It stops there. It doesn't continue. You don't speak out against the religion. And when you do, you become something else. "Shoving it down" is a description of a feeling. Shove is the intention of hurting someone. :? That's what you think the tradition was?

Thank you LOX07 and Hatiko. You guys get it.