Atheists displace nativity scenes in California

[QUOTE="Bloodaxe726"]

[QUOTE="DRAGONPIECEZ"]

They're shoving their belief that religion is a crock... Belief =/= religion. You can be an Atheist and believe something.

And who said they are a lower form of people? Are you refering to where I said they're on the minority in society? Because that's true. That doesn't make them lesser people in any sense of the word, like i said, my best buds are atheists, but yes, they are ostracized for the most part in society and are a minority.

DRAGONPIECEZ

"Atheists will have achieved NOTHING and just ostracize themselves even lower on the rungs of society, and go back in their basement to blog about this "victory" on their site. Way to go in making a name for yourself in society, Atheists..."

Your words.

Wow, are you for real? Way to misquote me and leave out the part where I said "THESE RADICAL ATHEISTS". Referring to the ones in the article!! Morbo is displeased.

I did not misquote you, you equate all Atheists to radical Muslims, and write it off by saying you have Atheist friends.

[QUOTE="DRAGONPIECEZ"]

[QUOTE="Bloodaxe726"]

"Atheists will have achieved NOTHING and just ostracize themselves even lower on the rungs of society, and go back in their basement to blog about this "victory" on their site. Way to go in making a name for yourself in society, Atheists..."

Your words.

Bloodaxe726

Wow, are you for real? Way to misquote me and leave out the part where I said "THESE RADICAL ATHEISTS". Referring to the ones in the article!! Morbo is displeased.

I did not misquote you, you equate all Atheists to radical Muslims, and write it off by saying you have Atheist friends.

:lol::lol::lol: Seriously if that's what you got out of my post then you're not even worth responding to anymore. Misquote me twice and you just aren't worth my time. Thanks for the laughs though!! I like a good chuckle right before bed.

[QUOTE="DRAGONPIECEZ"]

[QUOTE="Bloodaxe726"]

"Atheists will have achieved NOTHING and just ostracize themselves even lower on the rungs of society, and go back in their basement to blog about this "victory" on their site. Way to go in making a name for yourself in society, Atheists..."

Your words.

Bloodaxe726

Wow, are you for real? Way to misquote me and leave out the part where I said "THESE RADICAL ATHEISTS". Referring to the ones in the article!! Morbo is displeased.

I did not misquote you, you equate all Atheists to radical Muslims, and write it off by saying you have Atheist friends.

Really dude:

"But really, the irony here is that all of the Christians will go on with their life, celebrate their holiday, while all these radical Atheists will have achieved NOTHING and just ostracize themselves even lower on the rungs of society, and go back in their basement to blog about this "victory" on their site. Way to go in making a name for yourself in society, Atheists... This reminds me of the the radical Muslims who f**k everything up for the good Muslims in societey, (and no I'm not saying atheists are like radical Muslims.) Frankly, if I was an Atheist, I would be ashamed."

[QUOTE="Bloodaxe726"]

[QUOTE="DRAGONPIECEZ"]

Wow, are you for real? Way to misquote me and leave out the part where I said "THESE RADICAL ATHEISTS". Referring to the ones in the article!! Morbo is displeased.

Hatiko

I did not misquote you, you equate all Atheists to radical Muslims, and write it off by saying you have Atheist friends.

Really dude:

"But really, the irony here is that all of the Christians will go on with their life, celebrate their holiday, while all these radical Atheists will have achieved NOTHING and just ostracize themselves even lower on the rungs of society, and go back in their basement to blog about this "victory" on their site. Way to go in making a name for yourself in society, Atheists... This reminds me of the the radical Muslims who f**k everything up for the good Muslims in societey, (and no I'm not saying atheists are like radical Muslims.) Frankly, if I was an Atheist, I would be ashamed."

When I said people on these boards need a class in reading comprehension, I really meant it.

[QUOTE="Bloodaxe726"]

[QUOTE="DRAGONPIECEZ"]

Wow, are you for real? Way to misquote me and leave out the part where I said "THESE RADICAL ATHEISTS". Referring to the ones in the article!! Morbo is displeased.

Hatiko

I did not misquote you, you equate all Atheists to radical Muslims, and write it off by saying you have Atheist friends.

Really dude:

"But really, the irony here is that all of the Christians will go on with their life, celebrate their holiday, while all these radical Atheists will have achieved NOTHING and just ostracize themselves even lower on the rungs of society, and go back in their basement to blog about this "victory" on their site. Way to go in making a name for yourself in society, Atheists... This reminds me of the the radical Muslims who f**k everything up for the good Muslims in societey, (and no I'm not saying atheists are like radical Muslims.) Frankly, if I was an Atheist, I would be ashamed."

If his post says radical Atheist now he altered it after I quoted it. I did not alter a thing he said.

[QUOTE="Hatiko"]

[QUOTE="Bloodaxe726"]

I did not misquote you, you equate all Atheists to radical Muslims, and write it off by saying you have Atheist friends.

Bloodaxe726

Really dude:

"But really, the irony here is that all of the Christians will go on with their life, celebrate their holiday, while all these radical Atheists will have achieved NOTHING and just ostracize themselves even lower on the rungs of society, and go back in their basement to blog about this "victory" on their site. Way to go in making a name for yourself in society, Atheists... This reminds me of the the radical Muslims who f**k everything up for the good Muslims in societey, (and no I'm not saying atheists are like radical Muslims.) Frankly, if I was an Atheist, I would be ashamed."

If his post says radical Atheist now he altered it after I quoted it. I did not alter a thing he said.

Hey, GENIUS! My post has no edits. :|

According to the people who diagree with the tc, they then agree that it is okay for atheists to display their own opinion. But then I ask you, would you be okay with it if it was a christian buying out the space and putting their own beliefs up and leaving them there?

[QUOTE="Hatiko"]

[QUOTE="Bloodaxe726"]

I did not misquote you, you equate all Atheists to radical Muslims, and write it off by saying you have Atheist friends.

Bloodaxe726

Really dude:

"But really, the irony here is that all of the Christians will go on with their life, celebrate their holiday, while all these radical Atheists will have achieved NOTHING and just ostracize themselves even lower on the rungs of society, and go back in their basement to blog about this "victory" on their site. Way to go in making a name for yourself in society, Atheists... This reminds me of the the radical Muslims who f**k everything up for the good Muslims in societey, (and no I'm not saying atheists are like radical Muslims.) Frankly, if I was an Atheist, I would be ashamed."

If his post says radical Atheist now he altered it after I quoted it. I did not alter a thing he said.

He never edited his post. You quoted this:

"Atheists will have achieved NOTHING and just ostracize themselves even lower on the rungs of society, and go back in their basement to blog about this "victory" on their site. Way to go in making a name for yourself in society, Atheists..."

Just like that. You did it "in-post" no "/quote" thing at all. You deliberatly took out the radical part.

Your semantics argument is pointless. As Christmas is the very definition of shoving beliefs down someone's throat, that's the entire reason the holiday exists.

Your semantics argument is pointless. As Christmas is the very definition of shoving beliefs down someone's throat, that's the entire reason the holiday exists.

Bloodaxe726

You're a moron.

meh i dont really care about some nativity scenes since in my city they make some awesome ones and people would go see them, and i actually like seeing them and the effort they put in making them, and im atheist.

Your semantics argument is pointless. As Christmas is the very definition of shoving beliefs down someone's throat, that's the entire reason the holiday exists.

Bloodaxe726

Or nowadays, because that is the time period we are in right, it is meant for fellow beleivers to celebrate. The old intentions to assimilate are gone (at least in my eyes).

[QUOTE="Bloodaxe726"]

Your semantics argument is pointless. As Christmas is the very definition of shoving beliefs down someone's throat, that's the entire reason the holiday exists.

DRAGONPIECEZ

You're a moron.

A holiday created entirely to Christianize a Pagan holiday. Sounds a hell of a lot like creating a holiday to shove beliefs down throats.

meh i dont really care about some nativity scenes since in my city they make some awesome ones and people would go see them, and i actually like seeing them and the effort they put in making them, and im atheist.

Krelian-co

I agree. No matter what background you have, I think everyone can appreciate the beauty these Nativity scenes can have

[QUOTE="DRAGONPIECEZ"]

[QUOTE="Bloodaxe726"]

Your semantics argument is pointless. As Christmas is the very definition of shoving beliefs down someone's throat, that's the entire reason the holiday exists.

Bloodaxe726

You're a moron.

A holiday created entirely to Christianize a Pagan holiday. Sounds a hell of a lot like creating a holiday to shove beliefs down throats.

How many Pagans today do you think feel offended that Christmas ursurped their holiday hundreds of years ago? lol

I agree. No matter what background you have, I think everyone can appreciate the beauty these Nativity scenes can have

DRAGONPIECEZ

[QUOTE="Bloodaxe726"]

[QUOTE="DRAGONPIECEZ"]

You're a moron.

DRAGONPIECEZ

A holiday created entirely to Christianize a Pagan holiday. Sounds a hell of a lot like creating a holiday to shove beliefs down throats.

How many Pagans today do you think feel offended that Christmas ursurped their holiday hundreds of years ago? lol

Beside the point, if it really is about celebrating the birth of their savior, shouldn't the holiday be moved to the day Jesus was actually born?

According to the people who diagree with the tc, they then agree that it is okay for atheists to display their own opinion. But then I ask you, would you be okay with it if it was a christian buying out the space and putting their own beliefs up and leaving them there?

CleanNJerk

[QUOTE="CleanNJerk"]

According to the people who diagree with the tc, they then agree that it is okay for atheists to display their own opinion. But then I ask you, would you be okay with it if it was a christian buying out the space and putting their own beliefs up and leaving them there?

Lonelynight

[QUOTE="DRAGONPIECEZ"]

[QUOTE="Bloodaxe726"]

A holiday created entirely to Christianize a Pagan holiday. Sounds a hell of a lot like creating a holiday to shove beliefs down throats.

Bloodaxe726

How many Pagans today do you think feel offended that Christmas ursurped their holiday hundreds of years ago? lol

Beside the point, if it really is about celebrating the birth of their savior, shouldn't the holiday be moved to the day Jesus was actually born?

Actually, it is a point. The old intent doesn't matter when we are arguing a matter in the present day when the present day intent should be used. Switching time periods just when it is convinient isn't good.

This is a good thing, its about time people started to appreciate the real meaning of christmas. Presents.

The old intent doesn't matter when we are arguing a matter in the present day when the present day intent should be used. Hatiko

[QUOTE="DRAGONPIECEZ"]

I agree. No matter what background you have, I think everyone can appreciate the beauty these Nativity scenes can have

Seraphy-

No they can't? Yeah? You speak for everyone from all backgrounds? How bold of you. So someone who isn't Christian can't appreciate this:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/-karthik-/4731560519/

I guess not, since, well, you can speak for everyone on this planet and all

I guess not, since, well, you can speak for everyone on this planet and all

DRAGONPIECEZ

No matter what background you have, I think everyone can appreciate the beauty these Nativity scenes can haveDRAGONPIECEZ

[QUOTE="Hatiko"]The old intent doesn't matter when we are arguing a matter in the present day when the present day intent should be used. Seraphy-

Because the intent of the holidy isn't commercialism. The intent of corporations is capatilization during these times but the people involved, use the day that has been set to celebrate the birth with fellow beleivers (which is usually family).

[QUOTE="Seraphy-"][QUOTE="Hatiko"]The old intent doesn't matter when we are arguing a matter in the present day when the present day intent should be used. Hatiko

Because the intent of the holidy isn't commercialism. The intent of corporations is capatilization during these times but the people involved, use the day that has been set to celebrate the birth with fellow beleivers (which is usually family).

What a delusional belief. In modern times there is no way Christmas is about anything but presents.

[QUOTE="DRAGONPIECEZ"]

I guess not, since, well, you can speak for everyone on this planet and all

Seraphy-

No matter what background you have, I think everyone can appreciate the beauty these Nativity scenes can haveDRAGONPIECEZ

Yay you tought me 2 new words today! Now let me teach you the word "CAN".

Want to attack my grammar and post length some more instead of actually trying to refute my initial post? You seem to have your panties in a bunch about something I said since you keep attacking me, but seems as if you're too afraid to actually say anything that requires thought or discussion.

[QUOTE="DRAGONPIECEZ"]

I agree. No matter what background you have, I think everyone can appreciate the beauty these Nativity scenes can have

Seraphy-

Oh and like those things you put around christmas trees...yeah...uh...can't remember the name...hmm.

[QUOTE="Hatiko"]

[QUOTE="Seraphy-"] so then why are we talking about religion and not commercialismBloodaxe726

Because the intent of the holidy isn't commercialism. The intent of corporations is capatilization during these times but the people involved, use the day that has been set to celebrate the birth with fellow beleivers (which is usually family).

What a delusional belief. In modern times there is no way Christmas is about anything but presents.

Wait, you should read what you just typed. I told you my belief, then you said it was delusional because of what your beleif is?! Geez man.

[QUOTE="Seraphy-"][QUOTE="DRAGONPIECEZ"]

I agree. No matter what background you have, I think everyone can appreciate the beauty these Nativity scenes can have

DRAGONPIECEZ

No they can't? Yeah? You speak for everyone from all backgrounds? How bold of you. So someone who isn't Christian can't appreciate this:

I guess not, since, well, you can speak for everyone on this planet and all

Because the intent of the holidy isn't commercialism. The intent of corporations is capatilization during these times but the people involved, use the day that has been set to celebrate the birth with fellow beleivers (which is usually family).

Hatiko

[QUOTE="DRAGONPIECEZ"]

[QUOTE="Seraphy-"] hahahaha no they can't it's a bunch of the same props put up in the same positions everywhere the same time every year maybe a more hardcore christian could appreciate the "visual and emotional aesthetic" of it like you say, but otherwise I think everyone would prefer strings of lights on absolutely everything insteadCharazani

No they can't? Yeah? You speak for everyone from all backgrounds? How bold of you. So someone who isn't Christian can't appreciate this:

I guess not, since, well, you can speak for everyone on this planet and all

Agreed. It's a shame, really. But whatever, that's their own follies and insecurities they have to deal with.

[QUOTE="Hatiko"]

Because the intent of the holidy isn't commercialism. The intent of corporations is capatilization during these times but the people involved, use the day that has been set to celebrate the birth with fellow beleivers (which is usually family).

Seraphy-

But the whole point of the thread was the intent of the parties involved in this "thing" as I would be hard pressed to call it an "event" that should make news.

Where the churches involved in this "thing" would probably see the religious side.

And BTW, I agree with you.

Quarter past 4, I have work and an Accounting final tomorrow. Goodnight everyone. Merry Christmas and Happy Holidays!

[QUOTE="Charazani"][QUOTE="DRAGONPIECEZ"]

No they can't? Yeah? You speak for everyone from all backgrounds? How bold of you. So someone who isn't Christian can't appreciate this:

I guess not, since, well, you can speak for everyone on this planet and all

DRAGONPIECEZ

Agreed. It's a shame, really. But whatever, that's their own follies and insecurities they have to deal with.

Quarter past 4, I have work and an Accounting final tomorrow. Goodnight everyone. Merry Christmas and Happy Holidays!

DRAGONPIECEZ

Yay you tought me 2 new words today! Now let me teach you the word "CAN".

Want to attack my grammar and post length some more instead of actually trying to refute my initial post? You seem to have your panties in a bunch about something I said since you keep attacking me, but seems as if you're too afraid to actually say anything that requires thought or discussion.

DRAGONPIECEZ

[QUOTE="DRAGONPIECEZ"]

Quarter past 4, I have work and an Accounting final tomorrow. Goodnight everyone. Merry Christmas and Happy Holidays!

Charazani

Thanks! Gonna need it heheh

[QUOTE="DRAGONPIECEZ"]

Yay you tought me 2 new words today! Now let me teach you the word "CAN".

Want to attack my grammar and post length some more instead of actually trying to refute my initial post? You seem to have your panties in a bunch about something I said since you keep attacking me, but seems as if you're too afraid to actually say anything that requires thought or discussion.

Seraphy-

Thundercuunt, good one XD. I'm talking about my first post btw. And I'm going to stop responding to you now simply to refrain from seeing your creepy as hell avatar ever again.

But the whole point of the thread was the intent of the parties involved in this "thing" as I would be hard pressed to call it an "event" that should make news.

Where the churches involved in this "thing" would probably see the religious side.

And BTW, I agree with you.

Hatiko

Because the intent of the holidy isn't commercialism. The intent of corporations is capatilization during these times but the people involved, use the day that has been set to celebrate the birth with fellow beleivers (which is usually family).

Hatiko

You right the idea of the holiday is that its a pagan ritual horribly hijacked by christians :P

[QUOTE="DRAGONPIECEZ"]

I agree. No matter what background you have, I think everyone can appreciate the beauty these Nativity scenes can have

Seraphy-

so i guess the mona lisa is just another womans face in a paint and miguel angelos statue of david is just a random naked guy and so on. I have the custom to go and see them every year and they can really surprise with the new ways they make them, your comment is just plain ignorant. Im atheist, so your "hardcore christian" is nonsense, everyone can appreciate good and beautiful piece of work.

damn ignorants come here trying to look smart

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[QUOTE="DRAGONPIECEZ"]

Why do you even have to ask? Don't be so daft. Atheists purchased some ad space that Christians have been using for Christmas as a tradition for 60 years, with the sole intention of pissing them off... It's Christmas time. The Christians are trying to celebrate their holiday and mind their holiday. If there were posters accompanying the Nativity scene for the past 60 years saying "Believe or Burn!!", "Atheists will go to hell!!", then I'd say, hey, let the Atheists go wild and retaliate. But it's not, It's a harmless expression of beliefs. And these pricks go out of their way to discourage people's beleif by expressing their lack-there-of, with the sole intention to piss people off. I don't get it? What are they trying to prove? You don't believe anything, wonderful, now why are you acting almost as preachy as the religions you loathe so much? Just let it be. And don't gimee this BS of "dey wanna enlighten teh minds with teh truthhh!!" If you're going to post idiotic anti God symbols at a freakin Christmas Nativity scene thinking CHRISTIANS are going to say "hm. you know what? I don't believe in Jesus! what a crock!", you're a moron.

Is what they did unjust and unfair? No. They got the space fair and square.

But does that make them look any less like pretentious penises? No.

This is the equivalent of, I don't know, some radical Christians buying a spot in a beloved annual science convention that's been going on for 60 years and condemning scientists by saying they're all going to hell and what-not. What are they going to prove? They're just pissing people off. (Except at least these Christians would be advocating the belief of something rather than a lack of, which just sounds silly to do in the first place)

But really, the irony here is that all of the Christians will go on with their life, celebrate their holiday, while all these radical Atheists will have achieved NOTHING and just ostracize themselves even lower on the rungs of society, and go back in their basement to blog about this "victory" on their site. Way to go in making a name for yourself in society, Atheists... This reminds me of the the radical Muslims who f**k everything up for the good Muslims in societey, (and no I'm not saying atheists are like radical Muslims.) Frankly, if I was an Atheist, I would be ashamed.

My best friends are atheists, but I respect them because they don't go stomping out my Nativity scene under my Christmas tree, just as I don't hang a crucifix on their door whenever I enter their house.

DRAGONPIECEZ

^THIS^

seriously. I couldnt have said it better myself

Neo_Ganon!! Damn, haven't heard from you!! How the hell are ya

Holy crap i remember you! pretty good man just goin to university and writing a book. pretty good religion discussion eh?

so i guess the mona lisa is just another womans face in a paint and miguel angelos statue of david is just a random naked guy and so on. I have the custom to go and see them every year and they can really surprise with the new ways they make them, your comment is just plain ignorant. Im atheist, so your "hardcore christian" is nonsense, everyone can appreciate good and beautiful piece of work.

Krelian-co

Only christians should be allowed to market their agenda!!!