atheists proved wrong

Whether you like it or not, both sides can't prove each other wrong. Any evidence brought out by both sides will easily contradict each other. This isn't a discovery of the afterlife as much as a turf war that will never end until the time comes

It's like this:

There's a black box with a combination lock that has an object stored inside it.
Since scientists haven't found the code to open the box, some people claim that it therefore HAS to be a banana that's inside of it.
Is that a logical answer?

Big Bang is such an irrational theory.....All of existance came from a super tiny ball of matter that was just there? How could it just be there? Was it on soild ground or floating in absolute nothing? It doesn't make sense. But this is all just my opinion.

IMO God made everything. He made existance.

ristactionjakso

All religious people that look to argue with atheists and prove them wrong(or to "clear a few things") are hypocrites to the word they supposedly follow. The bible says not to boast and gloat about your assumed salvation and that which you have read, but many times you have religious people that are looking to prove how they are saved and how atheist aren't. How they are privy to the kingdom of heaven thru the dogma of their religion while atheist are only privy to the temptation of the devil and it's desolate kingdom thru the dogma of their own ignorant ideology.

Atheist are no better when trying to prove their stance by insinuating that all believers are gullible sheep while using the same "method" that the ignorant section of believers use to prove their point. It's one big seesaw.

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Big Bang is such an irrational theory.....All of existance came from a super tiny ball of matter that was just there? How could it just be there? Was it on soild ground or floating in absolute nothing? It doesn't make sense. But this is all just my opinion.

IMO God made everything. He made existance.

-Sun_Tzu-

Big Bang is such an irrational theory.....All of existance came from a super tiny ball of matter that was just there? How could it just be there? Was it on soild ground or floating in absolute nothing? It doesn't make sense. But this is all just my opinion.

IMO God made everything. He made existance.

ristactionjakso

Science tries to answer 2 questions: What happened? and How did it happen? A scientific theory only explains the facts of what happened but not the other. It is a fact, that this universe expanded from a single point 13 billion light years away. How or why remains to be seen.

That's why it's called science, if we knew everything, there wouldn't be a need for science research.

http://youtu.be/Yk2USCQdeVM

I like this guy. Nice little counter.

[QUOTE="-Sun_Tzu-"][QUOTE="ristactionjakso"]

Big Bang is such an irrational theory.....All of existance came from a super tiny ball of matter that was just there? How could it just be there? Was it on soild ground or floating in absolute nothing? It doesn't make sense. But this is all just my opinion.

IMO God made everything. He made existance.

ristactionjakso

God is God. That is all.ristactionjakso

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[QUOTE="-Sun_Tzu-"] And who made god exist-Sun_Tzu-

[QUOTE="-Sun_Tzu-"][QUOTE="ristactionjakso"]God is God. That is all.

ristactionjakso

The problem is that nobody knows who made God exist. I selected these verses because they both feature a common element:

No, we speak of God's secret wisdom, a wisdom that has been hidden and that God destined for our glory before time began. (1 Corinthians 2:7)

This grace was given us in Christ Jesus before the beginning of time (2 Timothy 1:9)

The hope of eternal life, which God... promised before the beginning of time (Titus 1:2)

To the only God our Savior, through Jesus Christ our Lord, be glory, majesty, dominion and authority, before all time and now and forever. Amen. (Jude 1:25)

In other words, God existed before the beginning of time. Nobody was there except him. Its nearly impossible to give out evidence since this requires blind faith that there are things about God we do not know about.

[QUOTE="ristactionjakso"]

[QUOTE="-Sun_Tzu-"] And who made god exist-Sun_Tzu-

[QUOTE="-Sun_Tzu-"][QUOTE="ristactionjakso"]God is God. That is all.

ristactionjakso

[QUOTE="ristactionjakso"]God is God. That is all.foxhound_fox

[QUOTE="ristactionjakso"]God is God. That is all.foxhound_fox

Playing devil's advocate here: According to religious people, god exists outside of the physical realm and therefore doesn't need a creator since physics don't apply to it.
And since there's not even a blimp of evidence that anything outside our physical reality actually exists, it's the perfect habitat for their god to live in since it cannot be proven wrong. To me, it's just a cop out answer.

[QUOTE="ristactionjakso"]God is God. That is all.foxhound_fox

Hey atheists

If god isn't real then why do miracles happen?

GOD-1

ATHEISTS-0

Wow! I haven't seen a thread like THIS before! You are so controversial being the first person to make a thread that disproves Athiesm!

Hey atheists

If god isn't real then why do miracles happen?

GOD-1

ATHEISTS-0

DroidPhysX

what miracles are you talking about exactly?

[QUOTE="-Sun_Tzu-"][QUOTE="ristactionjakso"]God is God. That is all.

ChampionoChumps

[QUOTE="foxhound_fox"][QUOTE="ristactionjakso"]God is God. That is all.themajormayor

Then what's the definition of god?!

Hey atheists

If god isn't real then why do miracles happen?

GOD-1

ATHEISTS-0

DroidPhysX

[QUOTE="-Sun_Tzu-"][QUOTE="ristactionjakso"]God is God. That is all.

ristactionjakso

[QUOTE="themajormayor"][QUOTE="foxhound_fox"] If the universe "needs" a creator, then the same is required of the creator. For how could there be an initial cause for one thing and not the other?TheFlush

Then what's the definition of god?!

[QUOTE="DroidPhysX"]

Hey atheists

If god isn't real then why do miracles happen?

GOD-1

ATHEISTS-0

Just-Breathe

If god's not real then why does the tide come in and out?

GOD - 3

ATHEISTS - 0

The Big Bang is a theory. Like God.

Ilovegames1992

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[QUOTE="themajormayor"] I don't think that is necessary. Our universe is limited by time. God wouldn't be. But also I was thinking this universe could be part of another universe which is infinite in space and time. I think framdragger said something like this and I think it makes sense. This I guess could be called God in a way since it's not limited by time and space and is our creator. But it wouldn't necessarily be conscious.themajormayor

Then what's the definition of god?!

If we don't even have a definition, how on earth do we even know what to believe in? How can you prove or know he exists if you even don't know what it is?

[QUOTE="DroidPhysX"]

Hey atheists

If god isn't real then why do miracles happen?

GOD-1

ATHEISTS-0

Just-Breathe

[QUOTE="themajormayor"][QUOTE="TheFlush"]

Then what's the definition of god?!

TheFlush

If we don't even have a definition, how on earth do we even know what to believe in? How can you prove or know he exists if you even don't know what it is?

[QUOTE="Just-Breathe"][QUOTE="DroidPhysX"]

Hey atheists

If god isn't real then why do miracles happen?

GOD-1

ATHEISTS-0

chessmaster1989

If god's not real then why does the tide come in and out?

GOD - 3

ATHEISTS - 0

Dinosaurs? Pics or it didn't happen.

GOD - 4

ATHEISTS - 0

[QUOTE="themajormayor"][QUOTE="TheFlush"]

Then what's the definition of god?!

TheFlush

If we don't even have a definition, how on earth do we even know what to believe in? How can you prove or know he exists if you even don't know what it is?

[QUOTE="chessmaster1989"]

[QUOTE="Just-Breathe"] If god's not real who keeps Australians from falling off the bottom of the earth? GOD - 2 ATHEISTS - 0Just-Breathe

If god's not real then why does the tide come in and out?

GOD - 3

ATHEISTS - 0

Dinosaurs? Pics or it didn't happen.

GOD - 4

ATHEISTS - 0

What about America, GOD'S country?

GOD - 5

ATHEISTS - -5

[QUOTE="themajormayor"][QUOTE="TheFlush"]

Then what's the definition of god?!

TheFlush

If we don't even have a definition, how on earth do we even know what to believe in? How can you prove or know he exists if you even don't know what it is?

My guess is that God is placeholder for a gap of information.

[QUOTE="ChampionoChumps"][QUOTE="-Sun_Tzu-"] But how could it just be there?-Sun_Tzu-

Edit: Also to me there has to be an entity outside of the universe that has absolutely no limits (and yes I realize that that is a limit) but it cannot be compreheded by our measly breains. We'll see eventually, or maybe not lol.

[QUOTE="TheFlush"]

[QUOTE="themajormayor"] I don't know but there's a discussion emerging about it now I see.themajormayor

If we don't even have a definition, how on earth do we even know what to believe in? How can you prove or know he exists if you even don't know what it is?

Which deist?

[QUOTE="Just-Breathe"]

[QUOTE="chessmaster1989"]

If god's not real then why does the tide come in and out?

GOD - 3

ATHEISTS - 0

Wolf-Man2006

Dinosaurs? Pics or it didn't happen.

GOD - 4

ATHEISTS - 0

What about America, GOD'S country?

GOD - 5

ATHEISTS - -5

[QUOTE="Wolf-Man2006"]

[QUOTE="Just-Breathe"]

Dinosaurs? Pics or it didn't happen.

GOD - 4

ATHEISTS - 0

ChampionoChumps

What about America, GOD'S country?

GOD - 5

ATHEISTS - -5

Actually Atheists have a -5 that I gave them because they are just plain selfish and rude to everybody, which is why we should snob everybody that doesn't believe in God.

GOD 7

ATHEISTS -10

[QUOTE="-Sun_Tzu-"]

[QUOTE="ChampionoChumps"] Well if an entity was eternal then it wouldn't be constricted by time so it simply always has been because it does not follow time. Also there really isn't a point in arguing this stuff. Richard Dawkins said a strong case could be made for a deistic God and he is the champion of atheists (that's a joke but what he says is true) so it basically falls onto what you believe.ChampionoChumps

So because science has no answer yet it has to be a creator? Can't you be content with the answer 'we don't know yet'?
Assuming it has to be one or the other without evidence isn't the most intelligent thing to do.

[QUOTE="ChampionoChumps"][QUOTE="-Sun_Tzu-"] The way I see it is if a deistic God exists, that's really not much different than God not existing at all. It's just making a categorical argument that the cause of the universe should be called "God."

TheFlush

So because science has no answer yet it has to be a creator? Can't you be content with the answer 'we don't know yet'?
Assuming it has to be one or the other without evidence isn't the most intelligent thing to do.

[QUOTE="ChampionoChumps"][QUOTE="Wolf-Man2006"]

What about America, GOD'S country?

GOD - 5

ATHEISTS - -5

Wolf-Man2006

Actually Atheists have a -5 that I gave them because they are just plain selfish and rude to everybody, which is why we should snob everybody that doesn't believe in God.

GOD 7

ATHEISTS -10

[QUOTE="ChampionoChumps"][QUOTE="Wolf-Man2006"]

What about America, GOD'S country?

GOD - 5

ATHEISTS - -5

Wolf-Man2006

Actually Atheists have a -5 that I gave them because they are just plain selfish and rude to everybody, which is why we should snob everybody that doesn't believe in God.

GOD 7

ATHEISTS -10

Richard Dawkins is an atheist.

GOD - 7

ATHEISTS - -100