BBC: More than 10 Palestinians killed in an Israeli strike on thier house

[QUOTE="kingkong0124"][QUOTE="mingmao3046"].mingmao3046

You know dude, repeating crap over and over again ain't suddenly going to make it true. Jews didn't set up camp in "someone else's" land. Whether you like it or not, Jews are native to the same land that is currently being fought over.

[QUOTE="mingmao3046"][QUOTE="kingkong0124"] Too bad. Maybe they shouldn't have gone to war with Israel :/ th3warr1or

You know dude, repeating crap over and over again ain't suddenly going to make it true. Jews didn't set up camp in "someone else's" land. Whether you like it or not, Jews are native to the same land that is currently being fought over.

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[QUOTE="mingmao3046"] okay? maybe the jews shouldnt have set up camp in someone elses land, expecting everything to be fine and dandy. Darkman2007

You know dude, repeating crap over and over again ain't suddenly going to make it true. Jews didn't set up camp in "someone else's" land. Whether you like it or not, Jews are native to the same land that is currently being fought over.

[QUOTE="mingmao3046"][QUOTE="kingkong0124"] Too bad. Maybe they shouldn't have gone to war with Israel :/ th3warr1or

You know dude, repeating crap over and over again ain't suddenly going to make it true. Jews didn't set up camp in "someone else's" land. Whether you like it or not, Jews are native to the same land that is currently being fought over.

[QUOTE="th3warr1or"]

[QUOTE="mingmao3046"] okay? maybe the jews shouldnt have set up camp in someone elses land, expecting everything to be fine and dandy. mingmao3046

You know dude, repeating crap over and over again ain't suddenly going to make it true. Jews didn't set up camp in "someone else's" land. Whether you like it or not, Jews are native to the same land that is currently being fought over.

So hypocrisy is okay now? If you hold this belief, then by your same reasoning, it doesn't mean Palestinians have the right to be there forever.

Land and countries change over time, just like they have when the Zionist state formed. Deal with it.

So if native americans came and tried to wage war on the US, they would be right? mingmao3046

If they had the manpower, the resources and the ability to do so? Sure.

[QUOTE="mingmao3046"]So if native americans came and tried to wage war on the US, they would be right? th3warr1or

If they had the manpower, the resources and the ability to do so? Sure.

[QUOTE="th3warr1or"]

[QUOTE="mingmao3046"]So if native americans came and tried to wage war on the US, they would be right? BossPerson

If they had the manpower, the resources and the ability to do so? Sure.

I think I've said multiple times that I'm totally fine with the war. :?

I've also said that I think if the Hamas win, they can have the land. I mean, they've won. It's not like I'd be in a position to say otherwise.

[QUOTE="mingmao3046"]

So hypocrisy is okay now? If you hold this belief, then by your same reasoning, it doesn't mean Palestinians have the right to be there forever.

Land and countries change over time, just like they have when the Zionist state formed. Deal with it.

th3warr1or

[QUOTE="mingmao3046"]So if native americans came and tried to wage war on the US, they would be right? th3warr1or

If they had the manpower, the resources and the ability to do so? Sure.

[QUOTE="pie-junior"]

For the past 5 days, israel has been dropping, an average, of 200 tons of explosives on the Gaza strip daily.

However, until this event there have only been 10-20 civilian palestinian deaths (which, btw, prompted ali to go on about how 'we are holding in' and that netanyahu is 'losing his seat' as a result).

This leads me to believe those bombs the Israeli army drops aren't the roadrunner kind (despite what the Netanyahu UN speech might have led you to think).

GazaAli

I take that back. I guess that statement was in comparison to the horrifying first day of operation cast lead. I barely sleep at all, I'm physically exhausted, my nervous system is hyped because of insanely loud air strikes, it feels as if my heart is going to jump out of my chest. I'm sick of sitting home all day with limited electricity.

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[QUOTE="mingmao3046"]So if native americans came and tried to wage war on the US, they would be right? BossPerson

If they had the manpower, the resources and the ability to do so? Sure.

[QUOTE="GazaAli"]

[QUOTE="pie-junior"]

For the past 5 days, israel has been dropping, an average, of 200 tons of explosives on the Gaza strip daily.

However, until this event there have only been 10-20 civilian palestinian deaths (which, btw, prompted ali to go on about how 'we are holding in' and that netanyahu is 'losing his seat' as a result).

This leads me to believe those bombs the Israeli army drops aren't the roadrunner kind (despite what the Netanyahu UN speech might have led you to think).

thebest31406

I take that back. I guess that statement was in comparison to the horrifying first day of operation cast lead. I barely sleep at all, I'm physically exhausted, my nervous system is hyped because of insanely loud air strikes, it feels as if my heart is going to jump out of my chest. I'm sick of sitting home all day with limited electricity.

so dont be blaming the US or Palestine when they fight back :roll:mingmao3046

Never blamed them for fighting back. Just telling them to quit whining when they have casualties. It's a war. If you want to fight, by all means, fight. Just don't complain that you're smaller and weaker than your opponent, or that your opponent has martial training and you don't.

Oh, and don't fight next to your kid's play area.

[QUOTE="GazaAli"][QUOTE="Darkman2007"] Europe, The Middle East, the whole lot. I just personally find it odd that when Jews were in the diaspora, they get told their land is actually in Palestine , they were seen as a bunch of foreigners. eventually a whole bunch of Jews end up going there, and suddenly its a story of the evil Jews coming to displace the natives. hence why I occasionally joke and say that we are actually natives of Mars.mingmao3046

[QUOTE="mingmao3046"][QUOTE="GazaAli"] In all seriousness, how do you respond to claims that Jews were instigators of civil unrest, manipulators of markets, monopolists...etc in their places of residence in the past? PWSteal_Ldpinch

It's funny how he practically admitted that he has a problem with Jews, and not Zionists.

Like most anti-semites, they use Zionism as an excuse, but they've been hating on Jews since long before the founder of Zionism was ever conceived.

I don't get it - how come Israel was capable of that precision strike on that car killing some terrorist leader, but here we have them dropping bombs on little children?

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[QUOTE="mingmao3046"]I find it funny that jews have been banned from nearly every civilization they tried to enter, yet they claim its not their fault. its all antisemitism. inb4 i get bannedth3warr1or

It's funny how he practically admitted that he has a problem with Jews, and not Zionists.

Like most anti-semites, they use Zionism as an excuse, but they've been hating on Jews since long before the founder of Zionism was ever conceived.

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[QUOTE="PWSteal_Ldpinch"] I'm not even Jewish and I know that Jews are an asset for any country. If your country doesn't have any Jews, your country is most likely sh*t.

GazaAli

It's funny how he practically admitted that he has a problem with Jews, and not Zionists.

Like most anti-semites, they use Zionism as an excuse, but they've been hating on Jews since long before the founder of Zionism was ever conceived.

Theodore Herzl.

[QUOTE="mingmao3046"]so dont be blaming the US or Palestine when they fight back :roll:th3warr1or

Never blamed them for fighting back. Just telling them to quit whining when they have casualties. It's a war. If you want to fight, by all means, fight. Just don't complain that you're smaller and weaker than your opponent, or that your opponent has martial training and you don't.

Oh, and don't fight next to your kid's play area.

[QUOTE="th3warr1or"]

[QUOTE="PWSteal_Ldpinch"] I'm not even Jewish and I know that Jews are an asset for any country. If your country doesn't have any Jews, your country is most likely sh*t.

GazaAli

It's funny how he practically admitted that he has a problem with Jews, and not Zionists.

Like most anti-semites, they use Zionism as an excuse, but they've been hating on Jews since long before the founder of Zionism was ever conceived.

[QUOTE="nunovlopes"][QUOTE="Wasdie"]

Yeah.

It's not worth arguing with you because it's pretty clear you're out to make Israel look like a bunch of savages.

Right or wrong, when missiles are going to be fired into your country (no matter how it started) you're going to retaliate and if the Hamas officials are going to be going home for the evening, they should know damn well they are putting their families in danger.

The bottom line is that war sucks and the whole situation sucks.

If you think that the Hamas guys aren't try to put themselves in a position where Israeli retaliation will inevitably end in civilian casualties, you need to wake up.

th3warr1or

That's crap and you know it.

If I were wanted dead by a bunch of trigger-happy terrorists whom I knew has a terrible track record of killing people on the sidelines, I'll be damned if I'll go home and put my entire family in danger.

If Israel is as much of a terrorist as Hamas claim, then that guy was either a dick for endangering his whole family (they're dead now because of his inconsideration); why is he to blame and not Israel? It's HIS family. If HE cared for them, he wouldn't have done that sh*t. I know I wouldn't. I don't think anyone I know would.

If someone were going to bomb me even if I was with my whole family (that isn't involved), I'd stay as far away from them for THEIR safety. Heck, I'd even do that if the people who would die are only my friends and not related by blood.

Isn't it ironic how Hamas suddenly wants a truce when women and children in Gaza are the ones getting killed?

I know its Theodor Herzl just wanted to see what you guys think. GazaAli

I know its Theodor Herzl just wanted to see what you guys think. GazaAli

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[QUOTE="mingmao3046"]so dont be blaming the US or Palestine when they fight back :roll:thebest31406

Never blamed them for fighting back. Just telling them to quit whining when they have casualties. It's a war. If you want to fight, by all means, fight. Just don't complain that you're smaller and weaker than your opponent, or that your opponent has martial training and you don't.

Oh, and don't fight next to your kid's play area.

Sure, the guy put his family at risk, absolutely, all I'm saying is it's not ok to blindly bomb a house just because a target is there, without any consideration for every one else that is also there. Spain and the UK had to deal with terrorism for a long time, see ETA and IRA, and yet I don't remember them bombing houses without any consideration for the family. Granted, the terrorism they faced wasn't on the same scale, but still.nunovlopes

Again, I don't support the killing of unarmed civilians, but putting the blame solely on Israel for "killing civilians" is absurd.

What kind of husband, father, son, would endanger his immediate family (or even his friends)? That is exactly what that guy did.

Isn't it ironic how Hamas suddenly wants a truce when women and children in Gaza are the ones getting killed?

Tigerman950

Great. Now we'll have even more of them begging to go to scandinaviaShadowJax04

[QUOTE="GazaAli"]I know its Theodor Herzl just wanted to see what you guys think. Darkman2007

I know its Theodor Herzl just wanted to see what you guys think. GazaAli

[QUOTE="nunovlopes"]Sure, the guy put his family at risk, absolutely, all I'm saying is it's not ok to blindly bomb a house just because a target is there, without any consideration for every one else that is also there. Spain and the UK had to deal with terrorism for a long time, see ETA and IRA, and yet I don't remember them bombing houses without any consideration for the family. Granted, the terrorism they faced wasn't on the same scale, but still.th3warr1or

Again, I don't support the killing of unarmed civilians, but putting the blame solely on Israel for "killing civilians" is absurd.

What kind of husband, father, son, would endanger his immediate family (or even his friends)? That is exactly what that guy did.

[QUOTE="thebest31406"][QUOTE="th3warr1or"]

Never blamed them for fighting back. Just telling them to quit whining when they have casualties. It's a war. If you want to fight, by all means, fight. Just don't complain that you're smaller and weaker than your opponent, or that your opponent has martial training and you don't.

Oh, and don't fight next to your kid's play area.

th3warr1or

[QUOTE="th3warr1or"][QUOTE="thebest31406"] I had no idea that the Israeli military were such mindless drones to the point of not being able to discern civilian territory. Either that or the Palestinians are so superfluous/expendable that killing one man is worth blowing entire family to hell.thebest31406

Clearly they are to him.

I know its Theodor Herzl just wanted to see what you guys think. GazaAli

[QUOTE="thebest31406"][QUOTE="th3warr1or"] How do you take out some guy who's in his house? To storm it, you need to enter on foot. To snipe him, there needs to be a window. Even if you rocket his house, you might just kill his family and he escapes. The only guaranteed way to kill him is to bring that building down on him. th3warr1or

Clearly they are to him.

"Egypt's Prime Minister wept today as he kissed the forehead of a boy killed in an Israeli airstrike on Gaza." turns out 'israeli airstike' might have meant misfired Hamas rocket, but I'm glad Mirror, CNN et al were quick to assume.MrPraline