Bill introduced to limit high-capacity ammo clips

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#1 wstfld
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It reestablishes a limit of 10 rounds per clip that expired in 2004. Its obviously not going to pass a super-conservative House, but it sounds reasonable to me. Gun enthusiasts, is ten rounds enough for you to defend your home/hunt or do you need a belt fed minigun?

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#2 Oleg_Huzwog
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What if 11 bears attack me at once?

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#3 turtlethetaffer
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Hoenstly, I don't own a gun, but I don't want to limit the rights of those who do. Really, there is no point to limiting the amount of ammo in a clip.

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#4 -RocBoys9489-
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What if 11 bears attack me at once?

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Two bears, one bullet :P
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#5 no_more_fayth
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Good.

People don't need that much.

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#6 CRS98
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What if 11 bears attack me at once?

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I'd worry about the caliber of the ammo in that case.
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#7 SolidSnake35
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I think it's every man's right to fill an intruder's corpse with as many bullets as he pleases. And if a man should have to reload in the process, we know our freedom has been ripped from us.
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#8 Harisemo
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10 bullets is no fun

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#9 -Big_Red-
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This is stupid. Most murderers that use guns use handguns. Not because it has a low, or high clip, but because they are easily concealable. If you want to help stop murders like you say you do then ban all handguns.
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#10 dercoo
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Glade the Dems are in shambles right now. Means few would openly support the bill, so its doomed.:)

When the Clinton ban was in effect it caused the price of exciting 10+ mags to sky rocket.

There should be no fire arms bans or banning restrictions. Just regulations.

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#11 -Big_Red-
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Hoenstly, I don't own a gun, but I don't want to limit the rights of those who do. Really, there is no point to limiting the amount of ammo in a clip.

turtlethetaffer

Yeah, what if you have four arms like I do?

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#12 Riverwolf007
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so only criminals are going to have hi-cap clips? brilliant idea.

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#13 UnknownSniper65
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Pointless, its not like criminals are going to follow the law anyway.

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It reestablishes a limit of 10 rounds per clip that expired in 2004. Its obviously not going to pass a super-conservative House, but it sounds reasonable to me. Gun enthusiasts, is ten rounds enough for you to defend your home/hunt or do you need a belt fed minigun?

wstfld

10+ rounds magazines=/= a belt fed minigun :roll:

The problem with these gun laws is they don't target the criminals, they only target the people who follow the law.

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#15 lamprey263
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this is obviously in response to the recent shooting, if anything they shouldn't allow people to bring guns to such public events except those doing security
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#16 wstfld
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so only criminals are going to have hi-cap clips? brilliant idea.

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Laughner wasn't a criminal until Saturday.
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#17 Riverwolf007
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this is obviously in response to the recent shooting, if anything they shouldn't allow people to bring guns to such public events except those doing securitylamprey263
yeah the guys that flunked out of police academy can carry all the ......waaaaaaaaaaait a miinnnnnnniiiiit!

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#18 Riverwolf007
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[QUOTE="Riverwolf007"]

so only criminals are going to have hi-cap clips? brilliant idea.

wstfld

Laughner wasn't a criminal until Saturday.

you can't legislate crazy.

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#19 MAILER_DAEMON
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When I go to the range, I like the fact that I've got 15 shots in the clip. Limiting clip size is fixing the wrong problem here, though. 33 round clips, like the one the murderer used, are mainly designed for automatic guns like the Glock 18 that aren't available to the general public anyway. High-capacity clips can't be concealed and ready-to-fire though.

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#20 Chaos_HL21
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[QUOTE="Riverwolf007"]

so only criminals are going to have hi-cap clips? brilliant idea.

wstfld

Laughner wasn't a criminal until Saturday.

So do you think he would of cared about using an illegal high capacity magazine to commit an illegal act.

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#21 Oleg_Huzwog
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[QUOTE="wstfld"][QUOTE="Riverwolf007"]

so only criminals are going to have hi-cap clips? brilliant idea.

Chaos_HL21

Laughner wasn't a criminal until Saturday.

So do you think he would of cared about using an illegal high capacity magazine to commit an illegal act.

He bought his gun from a gun shop. Not some black market back alley.

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#22 Verge_6
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Yeah, that's not going through. I like having 30 rounds in my AK mags and not needing a freaking screwdriver to detach it from the receiver. One of the perks of being a gun owner in Texas and not in, say, California. 8)

It's not like round limitation helps make things easier. It's not even enforceable for God's sake, as any gun owner can tell you (and there's not many on this board, I can tell you that). This is just a politician trying to cash in on a tragedy.

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#23 wstfld
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[QUOTE="wstfld"][QUOTE="Riverwolf007"]

so only criminals are going to have hi-cap clips? brilliant idea.

Chaos_HL21

Laughner wasn't a criminal until Saturday.

So do you think he would of cared about using an illegal high capacity magazine to commit an illegal act.

Where the hell is some white hippie going to find illegal gun parts?
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#24 Chaos_HL21
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[QUOTE="Chaos_HL21"]

[QUOTE="wstfld"] Laughner wasn't a criminal until Saturday.Oleg_Huzwog

So do you think he would of cared about using an illegal high capacity magazine to commit an illegal act.

He bought his gun from a gun shop. Not some black market back alley.

But lets say this was passed before the shooting, and Laughner had a high capacity magazine. Do you think he would of turned in the nowillegalmagazine? Or would the people who follow the law would be the ones who turn in their high-capacity magazines?

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#25 BreakTheseLinks
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WTF is a clip? It's a MAGAZINE. I hate when people call them clips.
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#26 lloveLamp
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makes sense for the goverment to try their best to disarm their citizens after screwing them over so much
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#27 fidosim
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Anyone who has played Red Dead Redemption understands the importance of high-capacity clips. What am I supposed to do when i've got ten people coming at me and I can only target eight of them in dead eye?
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#28 Verge_6
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Anyone who has played Red Dead Redemption understands the importance of high-capacity clips. What am I supposed to do when i've got ten people coming at me and I can only target eight of them in dead eye?fidosim
You reload. ;)
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#29 wstfld
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Anyone who has played Red Dead Redemption understands the importance of high-capacity clips. What am I supposed to do when i've got ten people coming at me and I can only target eight of them in dead eye?fidosim
Biggie says keep extra clips for extra ****.
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#30 RobboElRobbo
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I thought there was already a law in place for this
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#31 Allicrombie
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this is really dumb. When I go camping, I need to shoot at least 11 deer before I can fall asleep.
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#32 vfibsux
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Gun control freaks never cease to amaze me.

Why don't you people understand the basic logic that the only people affected by gun laws are people who follow laws? Violent and insane people do not care about your laws, if they did they would not be a threat anyway! Don't you find it ironic that the Virginia Tech shooting killing 30 some people took place in a building marked a "gun free zone"? The only people who followed the law in that case were those left either wounded, dead, or scarred for life when the one guy who did not care about the law went in guns blazing.

These laws only affect people who care to follow them, the ones who are no danger to you and might even *gasp* be there to save you some day. Arizona is a open carry state, yet remarkably none of the good guys were walking around with their guns that day, hence the "wild wild west" phenomenom that gun control advocates always bring up never happened. It was yet another turkey shoot like most of these incidents are. One bad guy, one gun. Legislating the hell out of the rest of us did not, and never will change what happened.

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WTF is a clip? It's a MAGAZINE. I hate when people call them clips.BreakTheseLinks

Well a clip feeds ammo into a Magazine. There are clips for AR-15/M16s that can help load ammo into the Magazines, But people do mix them up (and I admit I sometimes do it by mistake too)

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What if 11 bears attack me at once?

Oleg_Huzwog

10 headshots and then its knifey time

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It reestablishes a limit of 10 rounds per clip that expired in 2004. Its obviously not going to pass a super-conservative House, but it sounds reasonable to me. Gun enthusiasts, is ten rounds enough for you to defend your home/hunt or do you need a belt fed minigun?

wstfld

depends on how many people are attacking. every bullet counts when reloading is as cumbersome as it is (to the clumsy)

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These laws only effect people who follow them.

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You know, if you really want to protect your house you'll make your front yard and backyard into a minefield.
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#38 WhiteKnight77
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WTF is a clip? It's a MAGAZINE. I hate when people call them clips.BreakTheseLinks

Semiautomatic pistols use clips. Rifles use magazines.

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#39 WhiteKnight77
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Gun control freaks never cease to amaze me.

Why don't you people understand the basic logic that the only people affected by gun laws are people who follow laws? Violent and insane people do not care about your laws, if they did they would not be a threat anyway! Don't you find it ironic that the Virginia Tech shooting killing 30 some people took place in a building marked a "gun free zone"? The only people who followed the law in that case were those left either wounded, dead, or scarred for life when the one guy who did not care about the law went in guns blazing.

These laws only affect people who care to follow them, the ones who are no danger to you and might even *gasp* be there to save you some day. Arizona is a open carry state, yet remarkably none of the good guys were walking around with their guns that day, hence the "wild wild west" phenomenom that gun control advocates always bring up never happened. It was yet another turkey shoot like most of these incidents are. One bad guy, one gun. Legislating the hell out of the rest of us did not, and never will change what happened.

vfibsux

Gun control freaks just don't get it.

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Gun control freaks never cease to amaze me.

Why don't you people understand the basic logic that the only people affected by gun laws are people who follow laws? Violent and insane people do not care about your laws, if they did they would not be a threat anyway!

vfibsux

By using that "basic logic" there's no point legislating anything, since criminals won't care or follow the laws.

Brilliant.

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#41 wstfld
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These laws only effect people who follow them.

Bladecutter56
That is terrible logic. Having a law sometimes forces someone to follow them. If you can't legally sell extended clips in the US, there will be infinitely less extended clips in the US. If there is a law against smoking in a bar, its pretty hard to light one up inside of a bar
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#42 no_more_fayth
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[QUOTE="vfibsux"]

Gun control freaks never cease to amaze me.

Why don't you people understand the basic logic that the only people affected by gun laws are people who follow laws? Violent and insane people do not care about your laws, if they did they would not be a threat anyway!

raynimrod

By using that "basic logic" there's no point legislating anything, since criminals won't care or follow the laws.

Brilliant.

That's what I thought when reading that post. :lol:

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I think it's every man's right to fill an intruder's corpse with as many bullets as he pleases. And if a man should have to reload in the process, we know our freedom has been ripped from us.SolidSnake35


It works both ways, freedom to get killed as well.

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I'd love to have a minigun - Vulcan, 20mm rounds - personally.
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#45 topgunmv
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I own several guns and have a few 25-30 round banana mags. Don't see what the big deal is one way or the other. If it passes, then oh noes, I'll have to change clips when target shooting. If you need a bigger clip for self defence or hunting, then I wouldn't trust you to drive a car, much less use a gun.

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[QUOTE="SolidSnake35"]I think it's every man's right to fill an intruder's corpse with as many bullets as he pleases. And if a man should have to reload in the process, we know our freedom has been ripped from us.THUMPTABLE
It works both ways, freedom to get killed as well.

The guy who is armed has a better shot at survival.
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You better have slight of hand...
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#48 Desulated
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You outlaw guns, the outlaw gets them. The irony.

Criminals don't care, they'll still run around with 30 round mags if they had them.

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#49 THUMPTABLE
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[QUOTE="THUMPTABLE"][QUOTE="SolidSnake35"]I think it's every man's right to fill an intruder's corpse with as many bullets as he pleases. And if a man should have to reload in the process, we know our freedom has been ripped from us.CptJSparrow
It works both ways, freedom to get killed as well.

The guy who is armed has a better shot at survival.

Being armed brings out other numerous problems.

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#50 CptJSparrow
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[QUOTE="CptJSparrow"][QUOTE="THUMPTABLE"]It works both ways, freedom to get killed as well.THUMPTABLE

The guy who is armed has a better shot at survival.

Being armed brings out other numerous problems.

Then you shouldn't have a problem listing them.