BNP London Organiser says...

[QUOTE="taj7575"]

[QUOTE="AHUGECAT"]

Yeah, they fought along with the British Empire because they were FORCED to. Ever heard of the British Raj?!

The Indians loved the British so much they basically kicked them out 2 years after the war :roll:

AHUGECAT

It was a VOLUNTEER army. A VOLUNTEER army that grew to over 2.5 million men serving by the end of WWII.

Of course we kicked them out..We wanted independence. We thought fighting alongside them and helping them would help our independence.

Besides, the Indian Independence movement started long before WWII..And whats wrong with us kicking them out anyways? Didn't we do enough for them? We were just the catalyst for the end of imperialism..

A volunteer army as in if you don't fight for us you die... so volunteer or suffer the consequences.

And I agree, imperialism is evil and Empires are an outdated concept anyways. Are you Indian?

A volunteer army as in people Volunteer and enlist for the army, like all volunteer army's...Seriously, where do you get some of your **** from? :|

Yes I'm Indian.

[QUOTE="AHUGECAT"]

[QUOTE="taj7575"]

It was a VOLUNTEER army. A VOLUNTEER army that grew to over 2.5 million men serving by the end of WWII.

Of course we kicked them out..We wanted independence. We thought fighting alongside them and helping them would help our independence.

Besides, the Indian Independence movement started long before WWII..And whats wrong with us kicking them out anyways? Didn't we do enough for them? We were just the catalyst for the end of imperialism..

taj7575

A volunteer army as in if you don't fight for us you die... so volunteer or suffer the consequences.

And I agree, imperialism is evil and Empires are an outdated concept anyways. Are you Indian?

A volunteer army as in people Volunteer and enlist for the army, like all volunteer army's...Seriously, where do you get some of your **** from? :|

Yes I'm Indian.

They say it's "volunteer" but it's not, they were just sent to the meat grinder. If anything the Indians should've fought the imperalist Brits.

That's why India declared war on Germany September 1939, because India had to do it because they were part of the British Empire.

To the Indians, the British Raj was basically the same as Nazi Germany (and it kind of was).

Okay, why are you saying Britain needs to be more multicultural? India is one of the least diverse countries in the world. Would you want Mumbai or New Dehli to be like 40% British white? I wouldn't.

[QUOTE="taj7575"]

[QUOTE="AHUGECAT"]

A volunteer army as in if you don't fight for us you die... so volunteer or suffer the consequences.

And I agree, imperialism is evil and Empires are an outdated concept anyways. Are you Indian?

AHUGECAT

A volunteer army as in people Volunteer and enlist for the army, like all volunteer army's...Seriously, where do you get some of your **** from? :|

Yes I'm Indian.

They say it's "volunteer" but it's not, they were just sent to the meat grinder. If anything the Indians should've fought the imperalist Brits.

That's why India declared war on Germany September 1939, because India had to do it because they were part of the British Empire.

To the Indians, the British Raj was basically the same as Nazi Germany (and it kind of was).

Okay, why are you saying Britain needs to be more multicultural? India is one of the least diverse countries in the world. Would you want Mumbai or New Dehli to be like 40% British white? I wouldn't.

It is a Volunteer army that was part of the british army..

Yes, the British Raj was part of the British Empire. In the beginning of the war, under 200,000 British Raj (Indian) soldiers were ready to fight. By the end of the war over 2.5 Million soldiers were fighting for the BRITISH RAJ (Who is under the British Empire). Remember, although they were a British puppet state, they also did make their own laws. They had a volunteer army, not a draft. People ENLISTED to the army of the British Raj (India).

Yes, Indians felt bad about the British Government, but not excatly the British. The only ones who took it pretty far is Subhas Chandra Bose who started the Indian National Army to fight against the British. There were also some Indians involved in the "Azad Hind" movement who fought alongside the Germans for Indian independence, but again, these were by little numbers.

I wouldn't care a bit if Mumbai or Dehli, or any Indian city as a matter of fact, was 40% british white. But no city is, and it's not like that in Britan either. It's multicultural, and those different cultures combine to make that 30 or 40%. It's not just a whole group like Indians or a whole group of Polish who make a huge minority of 40%.

I could care less what color or ethnicity you are. That stuff is something that should barely even matter anymore.

[QUOTE="AHUGECAT"]

[QUOTE="taj7575"]

A volunteer army as in people Volunteer and enlist for the army, like all volunteer army's...Seriously, where do you get some of your **** from? :|

Yes I'm Indian.

taj7575

They say it's "volunteer" but it's not, they were just sent to the meat grinder. If anything the Indians should've fought the imperalist Brits.

That's why India declared war on Germany September 1939, because India had to do it because they were part of the British Empire.

To the Indians, the British Raj was basically the same as Nazi Germany (and it kind of was).

Okay, why are you saying Britain needs to be more multicultural? India is one of the least diverse countries in the world. Would you want Mumbai or New Dehli to be like 40% British white? I wouldn't.

I could care less what color or ethnicity you are. That stuff is something that should barely even matter anymore.

Of course you would say that.

[QUOTE="taj7575"]

[QUOTE="AHUGECAT"]

They say it's "volunteer" but it's not, they were just sent to the meat grinder. If anything the Indians should've fought the imperalist Brits.

That's why India declared war on Germany September 1939, because India had to do it because they were part of the British Empire.

To the Indians, the British Raj was basically the same as Nazi Germany (and it kind of was).

Okay, why are you saying Britain needs to be more multicultural? India is one of the least diverse countries in the world. Would you want Mumbai or New Dehli to be like 40% British white? I wouldn't.

AHUGECAT

I could care less what color or ethnicity you are. That stuff is something that should barely even matter anymore.

Of course you would say that.

Yes of course I would say that..Because it's true. I live in the US. All my life I've lived in multicultural and diverse societies. I was brought up to treat everyone the same; I'm sorry if thats odd to you ;)

[QUOTE="taj7575"]

[QUOTE="AHUGECAT"]

They say it's "volunteer" but it's not, they were just sent to the meat grinder. If anything the Indians should've fought the imperalist Brits.

That's why India declared war on Germany September 1939, because India had to do it because they were part of the British Empire.

To the Indians, the British Raj was basically the same as Nazi Germany (and it kind of was).

Okay, why are you saying Britain needs to be more multicultural? India is one of the least diverse countries in the world. Would you want Mumbai or New Dehli to be like 40% British white? I wouldn't.

AHUGECAT

I could care less what color or ethnicity you are. That stuff is something that should barely even matter anymore.

Of course you would say that.

Yes of course I would say that..Because it's true. I live in the US. All my life I've lived in multicultural and diverse societies. I was brought up to treat everyone the same; I'm sorry if thats odd to you ;)

taj7575

I don't mind diversity, but why is it only be forced upon Europe/America?

Why won't India allow mass immigration, if it supposedly helps the economy? Why won't Saudi Arabia be more "tolerant" to other cultures? Why is Tokyo 98% Japanese?

[QUOTE="Ninja-Hippo"][QUOTE="AHUGECAT"]

Oh, well that's hard to tell because you put 800 comma 000.

Anyways, maybe 2020 is an exaggeration, but 2030 or 2040 even sounds reasonable due to the low fertitliy rates.

AHUGECAT

No, they wouldn't have to make two million a year because of low fertility rates. THat's even more key than immigrant numbers.

[QUOTE="taj7575"]

Yes of course I would say that..Because it's true. I live in the US. All my life I've lived in multicultural and diverse societies. I was brought up to treat everyone the same; I'm sorry if thats odd to you ;)

AHUGECAT

I don't mind diversity, but why is it only be forced upon Europe/America?

Why won't India allow mass immigration, if it supposedly helps the economy? Why won't Saudi Arabia be more "tolerant" to other cultures? Why is Tokyo 98% Japanese?

I'm sure India wouldn't mind some immigration..It's just nobody comes there :lol:. Who says they have restrictions anyway?

Saudi Arabia isin't tolerant to other cultures because it's not a democracy. It's a oppressive theocracy..What do you expect from them?

Why is Tokyo 98% Japanese? Because not many people immigrate to Japan?

[QUOTE="taj7575"]

Yes of course I would say that..Because it's true. I live in the US. All my life I've lived in multicultural and diverse societies. I was brought up to treat everyone the same; I'm sorry if thats odd to you ;)

AHUGECAT

I don't mind diversity, but why is it only be forced upon Europe/America?

Why won't India allow mass immigration, if it supposedly helps the economy? Why won't Saudi Arabia be more "tolerant" to other cultures? Why is Tokyo 98% Japanese?

[QUOTE="taj7575"]

Yes of course I would say that..Because it's true. I live in the US. All my life I've lived in multicultural and diverse societies. I was brought up to treat everyone the same; I'm sorry if thats odd to you ;)

AHUGECAT

I don't mind diversity, but why is it only be forced upon Europe/America?

Why won't India allow mass immigration, if it supposedly helps the economy? Why won't Saudi Arabia be more "tolerant" to other cultures? Why is Tokyo 98% Japanese?

[QUOTE="AHUGECAT"]

[QUOTE="taj7575"]

Yes of course I would say that..Because it's true. I live in the US. All my life I've lived in multicultural and diverse societies. I was brought up to treat everyone the same; I'm sorry if thats odd to you ;)

Ninja-Hippo

I don't mind diversity, but why is it only be forced upon Europe/America?

Why won't India allow mass immigration, if it supposedly helps the economy? Why won't Saudi Arabia be more "tolerant" to other cultures? Why is Tokyo 98% Japanese?

Of course you would say this - you are the one benefiting from it.

Of course you would say this - you are the one benefiting from it.

AHUGECAT

It holds back humanity as a whole.

[QUOTE="AHUGECAT"]

Of course you would say this - you are the one benefiting from it.

Ninja-Hippo

It holds back humanity as a whole.

If it's about race then why do they also not like Polish immigrants?

If it's about race then why do they also not like Polish immigrants?

AHUGECAT

EDIT; still waiting to hear what i'm 'benefiting' from exactly

[QUOTE="taj7575"]

Yes of course I would say that..Because it's true. I live in the US. All my life I've lived in multicultural and diverse societies. I was brought up to treat everyone the same; I'm sorry if thats odd to you ;)

AHUGECAT

I don't mind diversity, but why is it only be forced upon Europe/America?

Why won't India allow mass immigration, if it supposedly helps the economy? Why won't Saudi Arabia be more "tolerant" to other cultures? Why is Tokyo 98% Japanese?

Because they are backwards with regards to that respect. I wouldn't bring any of those nations up when mentioning optimal economic policy, except perhaps India. Why don't people move there? Because it's a poor country. It's growing, but not well off in comparison to the western world... yet.

[QUOTE="AHUGECAT"]

If it's about race then why do they also not like Polish immigrants?

Ninja-Hippo

Maybe because the mass immigration isn't from Poland? That's why it's a bigger issue.

No country has survived multiculturalism. When a minority presence becomes too overwhelming, they demand autonomy. Think of Kosovo for example, and California in the future.

I am not saying to stop it all, but for England to be a minority white British very soon is unbelievable.

Maybe because the mass immigration isn't from Poland? That's why it's a bigger issue.

No country has survived multiculturalism. When a minority presence becomes too overwhelming, they demand autonomy. Think of Kosovo for example, and California in the future.

I am not saying to stop it all, but for England to be a minority white British very soon is unbelievable.

AHUGECAT

Also, you're just wrong about the BNP thing. Their slogan is 'rights for whites' for crying out loud. To say it's not a racial thing is just silly. They ALSO seem to hate the polish, even though they're white too, but they hate an awful lot of things. For example, women. Jewish people. Muslims (of any race). They're a hateful party.

EDIT: and again, still waiting to hear what it is i'm benefitting from

[QUOTE="AHUGECAT"]

Maybe because the mass immigration isn't from Poland? That's why it's a bigger issue.

No country has survived multiculturalism. When a minority presence becomes too overwhelming, they demand autonomy. Think of Kosovo for example, and California in the future.

I am not saying to stop it all, but for England to be a minority white British very soon is unbelievable.

Ninja-Hippo

Also, you're just wrong about the BNP thing. Their slogan is 'rights for whites' for crying out loud. To say it's not a racial thing is just silly. They ALSO seem to hate the polish, even though they're white too, but they hate an awful lot of thing. For example, women. Jewish people. Muslims (of any race). They're a hateful party.

Kosovo is remotely the same thing. It's the best example - but there are others.

And America is collapsing, slowly but surely. A lot is happening in America and it's pointing towards a collapse. China is rising to be the world's new super power.

BNP's slogan is "Putting British people first," which is not wrong. It's expected in their country.

[QUOTE="Ninja-Hippo"]

[QUOTE="AHUGECAT"]

Maybe because the mass immigration isn't from Poland? That's why it's a bigger issue.

No country has survived multiculturalism. When a minority presence becomes too overwhelming, they demand autonomy. Think of Kosovo for example, and California in the future.

I am not saying to stop it all, but for England to be a minority white British very soon is unbelievable.

AHUGECAT

Also, you're just wrong about the BNP thing. Their slogan is 'rights for whites' for crying out loud. To say it's not a racial thing is just silly. They ALSO seem to hate the polish, even though they're white too, but they hate an awful lot of thing. For example, women. Jewish people. Muslims (of any race). They're a hateful party.

Kosovo is remotely the same thing. It's the best example - but there are others.

And America is collapsing, slowly but surely. A lot is happening in America and it's pointing towards a collapse. China is rising to be the world's new super power.

BNP's slogan is "Putting British people first," which is not wrong. It's expected in their country.

I also still await clarification on what i'm 'benefitting from'.

[QUOTE="Ninja-Hippo"]

[QUOTE="AHUGECAT"]

If it's about race then why do they also not like Polish immigrants?

AHUGECAT

Maybe because the mass immigration isn't from Poland? That's why it's a bigger issue.

No country has survived multiculturalism. When a minority presence becomes too overwhelming, they demand autonomy. Think of Kosovo for example, and California in the future.

I am not saying to stop it all, but for England to be a minority white British very soon is unbelievable.

[QUOTE="AHUGECAT"]

[QUOTE="Ninja-Hippo"] Kosovo is not remotely the same thing. :roll: Also; see America. Been a complete melting pot for over 100 years now. Vastly more than the UK currently is, yet surprisingly it hasn't collapsed into a black hole.

Also, you're just wrong about the BNP thing. Their slogan is 'rights for whites' for crying out loud. To say it's not a racial thing is just silly. They ALSO seem to hate the polish, even though they're white too, but they hate an awful lot of thing. For example, women. Jewish people. Muslims (of any race). They're a hateful party.

Ninja-Hippo

Kosovo is remotely the same thing. It's the best example - but there are others.

And America is collapsing, slowly but surely. A lot is happening in America and it's pointing towards a collapse. China is rising to be the world's new super power.

BNP's slogan is "Putting British people first," which is not wrong. It's expected in their country.

I also still await clarification on what i'm 'benefitting from'.

Obama is planning to give amnesty to millions of illegals in America. That'll slowly but surely set the collapse for America, which is happening at a rapid fast rate.

And you are benefitting from the British system (I assume that's where you are from). If you weren't benefiting from it you would move.

[QUOTE="AHUGECAT"]

[QUOTE="Ninja-Hippo"] The BNP's policy was an absolute end to 'non-white immigration' until recently. While they have played off the fears of middle england with the whole polish issue, they have never expressed anywhere near as much interest in whites of other nationalities as they have with other races ie that they would make inter-racial marriage illegal.

FrostyPhantasm

Maybe because the mass immigration isn't from Poland? That's why it's a bigger issue.

No country has survived multiculturalism. When a minority presence becomes too overwhelming, they demand autonomy. Think of Kosovo for example, and California in the future.

I am not saying to stop it all, but for England to be a minority white British very soon is unbelievable.

http://www.vancouversun.com/story_print.html?id=2507847&sponsor=

Canada will not be the exception.

Obama is planning to give amnesty to millions of illegals in America. That'll slowly but surely set the collapse for America, which is happening at a rapid fast rate.

And you are benefitting from the British system (I assume that's where you are from). If you weren't benefiting from it you would move.

AHUGECAT

[QUOTE="AHUGECAT"]

Obama is planning to give amnesty to millions of illegals in America. That'll slowly but surely set the collapse for America, which is happening at a rapid fast rate.

And you are benefitting from the British system (I assume that's where you are from). If you weren't benefiting from it you would move.

Ninja-Hippo

Are you British?

[QUOTE="AHUGECAT"]

Obama is planning to give amnesty to millions of illegals in America. That'll slowly but surely set the collapse for America, which is happening at a rapid fast rate.

And you are benefitting from the British system (I assume that's where you are from). If you weren't benefiting from it you would move.

Ninja-Hippo

[QUOTE="Ninja-Hippo"]

[QUOTE="AHUGECAT"]

Obama is planning to give amnesty to millions of illegals in America. That'll slowly but surely set the collapse for America, which is happening at a rapid fast rate.

And you are benefitting from the British system (I assume that's where you are from). If you weren't benefiting from it you would move.

AHUGECAT

Are you British?

[QUOTE="FrostyPhantasm"][QUOTE="AHUGECAT"]

Maybe because the mass immigration isn't from Poland? That's why it's a bigger issue.

No country has survived multiculturalism. When a minority presence becomes too overwhelming, they demand autonomy. Think of Kosovo for example, and California in the future.

I am not saying to stop it all, but for England to be a minority white British very soon is unbelievable.

AHUGECAT

http://www.vancouversun.com/story_print.html?id=2507847&sponsor=

Canada will not be the exception.

I'm amazed at the narrow-mindedness that some people convey here, scapegoating the countries problems upon immigration. It's sad how the BNP gains credibility during times of economic hardship. Its akin to lashing out because of frustration; of being the school bully picking on those different or smaller than you. When the UK regains its balance and levels unemployment drop again then all of this nonsense will thankfully retreat back to its deserved place of irrelevance.

I also note that you say Britian will be a white minority STILL even after i demonstrated to you that such a notion is absurd. It would require that every white person alive today be dead in the next 30 years (despite life expectancy in the 70s-80s) leaving behind no children at all while immigration rates stay at TWO MILLION a year. That's just absurd. Ninja-Hippo

http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2000/sep/03/race.world1

My bet is that you want it to happen.

[QUOTE="AHUGECAT"]

[QUOTE="FrostyPhantasm"] :lol: Never been to Canada?FrostyPhantasm

http://www.vancouversun.com/story_print.html?id=2507847&sponsor=

Canada will not be the exception.

"Good people" are always the first ones to go out. Remember, the Native americans were very acceptive of the European people at first as well.

[QUOTE="Ninja-Hippo"]I also note that you say Britian will be a white minority STILL even after i demonstrated to you that such a notion is absurd. It would require that every white person alive today be dead in the next 30 years (despite life expectancy in the 70s-80s) leaving behind no children at all while immigration rates stay at TWO MILLION a year. That's just absurd. AHUGECAT

http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2000/sep/03/race.world1

My bet is that you want it to happen.

My bet is that he simply does not care either way like many people, including myself.

[QUOTE="FrostyPhantasm"][QUOTE="AHUGECAT"]

http://www.vancouversun.com/story_print.html?id=2507847&sponsor=

Canada will not be the exception.

AHUGECAT

"Good people" are always the first ones to go out. Remember, the Native americans were very acceptive of the European people at first as well.

[QUOTE="FrostyPhantasm"][QUOTE="AHUGECAT"]

http://www.vancouversun.com/story_print.html?id=2507847&sponsor=

Canada will not be the exception.

AHUGECAT

"Good people" are always the first ones to go out. Remember, the Native americans were very acceptive of the European people at first as well.

[QUOTE="FrostyPhantasm"][QUOTE="AHUGECAT"]

http://www.vancouversun.com/story_print.html?id=2507847&sponsor=

Canada will not be the exception.

AHUGECAT

"Good people" are always the first ones to go out. Remember, the Native americans were very acceptive of the European people at first as well.

Erm, either way they likely would have been wiped out. Secondly, prove that claim.

[QUOTE="AHUGECAT"]

[QUOTE="FrostyPhantasm"] You're point? Besides that long fear sending article. 25% of Canada's population is a VISIBLE minority. That means non-Caucasian, statistics Canada released a "projection" a few years back that around 2030 something like 50% of Canada's population will not be born in Canada. Yet Canada isn't falling down a deep dark xenophobic hole, there is talks of LIMITING immigration, not kicking people out, not outright stopping it why? Because we are good people..being multicultural isn't bad, but not like America would know, being a melting pot and such, you wouldn't even know where to begin! majoras_wrath

"Good people" are always the first ones to go out. Remember, the Native americans were very acceptive of the European people at first as well.

I never said we are better, where have I said that?

[QUOTE="AHUGECAT"]

[QUOTE="FrostyPhantasm"] You're point? Besides that long fear sending article. 25% of Canada's population is a VISIBLE minority. That means non-Caucasian, statistics Canada released a "projection" a few years back that around 2030 something like 50% of Canada's population will not be born in Canada. Yet Canada isn't falling down a deep dark xenophobic hole, there is talks of LIMITING immigration, not kicking people out, not outright stopping it why? Because we are good people..being multicultural isn't bad, but not like America would know, being a melting pot and such, you wouldn't even know where to begin! FrostyPhantasm

"Good people" are always the first ones to go out. Remember, the Native americans were very acceptive of the European people at first as well.

Mass immigration is today's imperialism.

[QUOTE="FrostyPhantasm"][QUOTE="AHUGECAT"]

http://www.vancouversun.com/story_print.html?id=2507847&sponsor=

Canada will not be the exception.

AHUGECAT

"Good people" are always the first ones to go out. Remember, the Native americans were very acceptive of the European people at first as well.

[QUOTE="FrostyPhantasm"][QUOTE="AHUGECAT"]

"Good people" are always the first ones to go out. Remember, the Native americans were very acceptive of the European people at first as well.

AHUGECAT

Mass immigration is today's imperialism.

[QUOTE="Ninja-Hippo"]I also note that you say Britian will be a white minority STILL even after i demonstrated to you that such a notion is absurd. It would require that every white person alive today be dead in the next 30 years (despite life expectancy in the 70s-80s) leaving behind no children at all while immigration rates stay at TWO MILLION a year. That's just absurd. AHUGECAT

http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2000/sep/03/race.world1

My bet is that you want it to happen.

[QUOTE="majoras_wrath"][QUOTE="AHUGECAT"]

"Good people" are always the first ones to go out. Remember, the Native americans were very acceptive of the European people at first as well.

AHUGECAT

I never said we are better, where have I said that?

[QUOTE="FrostyPhantasm"][QUOTE="AHUGECAT"]

"Good people" are always the first ones to go out. Remember, the Native americans were very acceptive of the European people at first as well.

AHUGECAT

Mass immigration is today's imperialism.

Yes, because people selling/renting other people property by their own volition = imperialism. Kinda like when the Huns bought properties in Rome from Julius Ceasar. Wait, *checks history book* Oh right. Nevermind. You have to take the place by force, not willing consent by both parties.

Another interesting thing i find is the fact that white people no longer being a majority is treated as an inherently bad thing. If that's not closet racism i dont know what is. Fewer white people = bad? So more non-white people = bad? 'Dude, in 100 years there'll be more black people than WHITES!' 'So what? What difference does the color of your skin make?' 'Oh... um... nothing. I was just saying.'Ninja-Hippo

South Africa.

[QUOTE="Ninja-Hippo"]Another interesting thing i find is the fact that white people no longer being a majority is treated as an inherently bad thing. If that's not closet racism i dont know what is. Fewer white people = bad? So more non-white people = bad? 'Dude, in 100 years there'll be more black people than WHITES!' 'So what? What difference does the color of your skin make?' 'Oh... um... nothing. I was just saying.'AHUGECAT

South Africa.

[QUOTE="AHUGECAT"]

[QUOTE="Ninja-Hippo"]Another interesting thing i find is the fact that white people no longer being a majority is treated as an inherently bad thing. If that's not closet racism i dont know what is. Fewer white people = bad? So more non-white people = bad? 'Dude, in 100 years there'll be more black people than WHITES!' 'So what? What difference does the color of your skin make?' 'Oh... um... nothing. I was just saying.'majoras_wrath

South Africa.

actually, the blacks in South Africa and Zimbabwe were treated very well, much better than they are today.

In fact the blacks in Zimbabwe want white rule back

But anyways, my point was once the power went to the blacks the first thing that happened was genocide. Thousands of white farmers in Africa have been slaughtered.

Another interesting thing i find is the fact that white people no longer being a majority is treated as an inherently bad thing. If that's not closet racism i dont know what is. Fewer white people = bad? So more non-white people = bad? 'Dude, in 100 years there'll be more black people than WHITES!' 'So what? What difference does the color of your skin make?' 'Oh... um... nothing. I was just saying.'Ninja-Hippo