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#401 skelebull3000
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[QUOTE="PannicAtack"][QUOTE="AHUGECAT"]

The BNP puts the British people first, what's so wrong about that?

You'll never see Tokyo, Karachi, Mumbai, etc. etc. be minority Asian.

AHUGECAT

There's something wrong about a party who's up-and-front agenda is to get legal citizens to leave the country because of some arbitrary reason.

How about just deporting any Labour party immigrants? And not ones that have been here for a couple generations?

The Labour admitted the only reason they had such mass immigration anyways was to make the UK less white british (notice how I say white British - many of the immigrants are Eastern European aswell).

I visited London and it's not an English city anymore.

Yes, it's wonderful :)

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#402 Ninja-Hippo
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[QUOTE="Ninja-Hippo"]

[QUOTE="AHUGECAT"]

This isn't about superiority.

I went to London and saw more Polish flags than English. Might as well just surrender your country.

LJS9502_basic

There are 487,000 polish people who are permanent residents in the UK. For every polish person, there are 120 white people. :|

Polish people are white.:|

I put 'british' in just as you replied. I'm sure you knew what i was saying. >_>
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#403 AHUGECAT
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[QUOTE="AHUGECAT"]

This isn't about superiority.

I went to London and saw more Polish flags than English. Might as well just surrender your country.

Ninja-Hippo

There are 487,000 polish people who are permanent residents in the UK. For every polish person, there are 120 white british people. :|

For now.

as I said tht was London though. English people won't even fly their once proud flag anymore. Is this what your ancestors fought for in WWII?

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#404 MushroomWig
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I went to London and saw more Polish flags than English. Might as well just surrender your country.

AHUGECAT

A lot of places have stopped flying the British/English flag alltogether because they're afaid of upsetting the different nationalities. I've actually lost all hope for this country. I mean look look at this; http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/6210532.stm This is no longer the United Kingdom, this is a country that's afraid to be itself due to the fear of upsetting other people.

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#405 PannicAtack
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[QUOTE="Ninja-Hippo"]

[QUOTE="AHUGECAT"]

This isn't about superiority.

I went to London and saw more Polish flags than English. Might as well just surrender your country.

AHUGECAT

There are 487,000 polish people who are permanent residents in the UK. For every polish person, there are 120 white british people. :|

For now.

as I said tht was London though. English people won't even fly their once proud flag anymore. Is this what your ancestors fought for in WWII?

They fought to make the Nazis stop bombing them. The Nazis. Who were a Fascist movement. Fascism being an extreme form of Nationalism.
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#406 Teenaged
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[QUOTE="Teenaged"]

[QUOTE="AHUGECAT"]

It's not hard to tell.

AHUGECAT

Uh yes it is.

I dont know where you get the idea that nationality is determined nowadays just as it was determined, say, 50 years ago.

Because it's the same determination used every where?

By ....."determination", I guess you mean criteria that determine nationality? :?

You only seem to be aware of criteria that rely on genetics, but be certain that there are more.

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#407 LJS9502_basic
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[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="Ninja-Hippo"] There are 487,000 polish people who are permanent residents in the UK. For every polish person, there are 120 white people. :|

Ninja-Hippo

Polish people are white.:|

I put 'british' in just as you replied. I'm sure you knew what i was saying. >_>

Hey....I can only read what's typed.:P

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#408 MushroomWig
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[QUOTE="Ninja-Hippo"]

[QUOTE="AHUGECAT"]

This isn't about superiority.

I went to London and saw more Polish flags than English. Might as well just surrender your country.

AHUGECAT

There are 487,000 polish people who are permanent residents in the UK. For every polish person, there are 120 white british people. :|

For now.

as I said tht was London though. English people won't even fly their once proud flag anymore. Is this what your ancestors fought for in WWII?

For now, exactly. It's not exactly helping that immigration is getting worse every year. Where will we be in 20 years?
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#409 AHUGECAT
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[QUOTE="AHUGECAT"]

[QUOTE="Ninja-Hippo"] There are 487,000 polish people who are permanent residents in the UK. For every polish person, there are 120 white british people. :|

PannicAtack

For now.

as I said tht was London though. English people won't even fly their once proud flag anymore. Is this what your ancestors fought for in WWII?

They fought to make the Nazis stop bombing them. The Nazis. Who were a Fascist movement. Fascism being an extreme form of Nationalism.

Britain declared war on the Nazis, actually.

Britain fought for their country, to make sure it didn't get taken over by a foreign power. Now it is.

Britain sacrified her empire to protect its spirit, and now its spirit has been ripped away.

The first step to destroy a nation is to take away nationalism.

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#410 SgtKevali
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I'm not British, but are these clowns taken seriously?

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#411 Ninja-Hippo
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[QUOTE="Ninja-Hippo"][QUOTE="AHUGECAT"]

Where did he say that? Source?

AHUGECAT

The first was written in his own magazine, the Rune. He was criminally charged for it. The second was in a meeting with the KKK.

What do you think about the Tokyo Governor's quotes?:

On April 9 Ishihara was speaking in front of soldiers at the Tokyo garrison of the Japan Self Defense Force on the occasion of the 50th anniversary of the organization's establishment. He told the troops, "Many sangokujin and other foreigners who have entered Japan illegally have repeatedly committed atrocious crimes. In the event of a major earth quake, even riots may break out." Ishihara went on to say, ''Police have their limits. I hope you will not only fight against disasters but also maintain public security on such occasions. I hope you will show the Japanese people and the Tokyo people what the military is for in a state.'' (Note: In the modern vernacular "sangokujin" means "low-class foreigners" or literally "third world person.")

In a subsequent interview with The Guardian, Ishihara was quoted as saying, "After the Los Angeles quake, it was ethnic minorities, including blacks and Hispanics, who went looting. The same thing would happen here." He went on to say "Although some Japanese might take part in riots, the strongest fear is about areas with high levels of illegal immigrants."

Sources:

http://www.japantraveler.com/issues/0005/racism.html

http://www.assemblylanguage.com/text/Ishihara.html

A friend of mine once told me that BNP supporters never answer a point, they just 'respond'. This is so true. Mushroom did the same thing. You tell me i should vote BNP if i want freedom and harmony. I tell you that they would have me deported. You question this, so i give you the word straight from the horse's mouth saying that they want every last non-white person out of this country.

And your response is to show me that a person in Tokyo is also a racist. :|

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#412 Teenaged
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[QUOTE="PannicAtack"][QUOTE="AHUGECAT"]

For now.

as I said tht was London though. English people won't even fly their once proud flag anymore. Is this what your ancestors fought for in WWII?

AHUGECAT

They fought to make the Nazis stop bombing them. The Nazis. Who were a Fascist movement. Fascism being an extreme form of Nationalism.

Britain declared war on the Nazis, actually.

Britain fought for their country, to make sure it didn't get taken over by a foreign power. Now it is.

Britain sacrified her empire to protect its spirit, and now its spirit has been ripped away.

The first step to destroy a nation is to take away nationalism.

(RED) You'll have to prove the intent in order for your claims to have any plausibility.

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#413 Ninja-Hippo
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I'm not British, but are these clowns taken seriously?

SgtKevali
No. They receive a tiny share of the vote, and generally cannot appear in public because they are mobbed.
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#414 skelebull3000
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[QUOTE="Ninja-Hippo"]

[QUOTE="AHUGECAT"]

This isn't about superiority.

I went to London and saw more Polish flags than English. Might as well just surrender your country.

AHUGECAT

There are 487,000 polish people who are permanent residents in the UK. For every polish person, there are 120 white british people. :|

For now.

as I said tht was London though. English people won't even fly their once proud flag anymore. Is this what your ancestors fought for in WWII?

Ah yes... glory in war and nationalism goes hand in hand. That something like "glory" can even be found in war is a testament to our cruel nature.

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#415 Bourbons3
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[QUOTE="Ninja-Hippo"]

[QUOTE="AHUGECAT"]

This isn't about superiority.

I went to London and saw more Polish flags than English. Might as well just surrender your country.

AHUGECAT

There are 487,000 polish people who are permanent residents in the UK. For every polish person, there are 120 white british people. :|

For now.

as I said tht was London though. English people won't even fly their once proud flag anymore. Is this what your ancestors fought for in WWII?

The reason they wont fly the Union Jack anymore is because of people like you have hijacked it. I'd gladly make more use of my flag, but doing so would make me look like some crazy nationalist, and I just don't need the hassle. Its people like you who are causing that problem, not people who fly different flags. And please stop going on about the war! What about soldiers from India, Africa, and the Caribbean? What about the money India lent us that actually allowed us to fight? Stop trying to hijack people's reasons for fighting. A lot of them fought because they were conscripted. Not because they wanted to stop Polish flags flying in London.
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#416 -Sun_Tzu-
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[QUOTE="PannicAtack"][QUOTE="AHUGECAT"]

For now.

as I said tht was London though. English people won't even fly their once proud flag anymore. Is this what your ancestors fought for in WWII?

AHUGECAT

They fought to make the Nazis stop bombing them. The Nazis. Who were a Fascist movement. Fascism being an extreme form of Nationalism.

Britain declared war on the Nazis, actually.

Britain fought for their country, to make sure it didn't get taken over by a foreign power. Now it is.

Britain sacrified her empire to protect its spirit, and now its spirit has been ripped away.

The first step to destroy a nation is to take away nationalism.

There's a big difference between ethnic nationalism and civic nationalism. The UK fought to maintain their civic nationalistic identity in WWII, against the Nazis, whose ideology was based on extreme ethnic nationalism.
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#417 AHUGECAT
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[QUOTE="AHUGECAT"]

[QUOTE="PannicAtack"] They fought to make the Nazis stop bombing them. The Nazis. Who were a Fascist movement. Fascism being an extreme form of Nationalism.Teenaged

Britain declared war on the Nazis, actually.

Britain fought for their country, to make sure it didn't get taken over by a foreign power. Now it is.

Britain sacrified her empire to protect its spirit, and now its spirit has been ripped away.

The first step to destroy a nation is to take away nationalism.

(RED) You'll have to prove the intent in order for your claims to have any plausibility.

When a minority presence becomes so overwhelming they will demand autonomy, think of Kosovo, Northern Cyprus, and the Basque Regions of Spain.

England will be a white British minority by 2100 - though that was a 2000 estimation, it's probably around 2020-30 now. England has surrended the country.

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#418 Ninja-Hippo
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Britain fought for their country, to make sure it didn't get taken over by a foreign power. Now it is.

Britain sacrified her empire to protect its spirit, and now its spirit has been ripped away.

The first step to destroy a nation is to take away nationalism.

AHUGECAT

Once again, 88% white british. How you can say the country has been over run by a foreign power is just absurd. You also deflect the point that you are supporting a party which would have me and my family deported.


You're happy for me to be shipped off then, i assume?

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#419 PannicAtack
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[QUOTE="PannicAtack"][QUOTE="AHUGECAT"]

For now.

as I said tht was London though. English people won't even fly their once proud flag anymore. Is this what your ancestors fought for in WWII?

AHUGECAT

They fought to make the Nazis stop bombing them. The Nazis. Who were a Fascist movement. Fascism being an extreme form of Nationalism.

Britain declared war on the Nazis, actually.

Britain fought for their country, to make sure it didn't get taken over by a foreign power. Now it is.

Britain sacrified her empire to protect its spirit, and now its spirit has been ripped away.

The first step to destroy a nation is to take away nationalism.

Who talks like this?
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#420 AHUGECAT
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[QUOTE="AHUGECAT"]

[QUOTE="PannicAtack"] They fought to make the Nazis stop bombing them. The Nazis. Who were a Fascist movement. Fascism being an extreme form of Nationalism.-Sun_Tzu-

Britain declared war on the Nazis, actually.

Britain fought for their country, to make sure it didn't get taken over by a foreign power. Now it is.

Britain sacrified her empire to protect its spirit, and now its spirit has been ripped away.

The first step to destroy a nation is to take away nationalism.

There's a big difference between ethnic nationalism and civic nationalism. The UK fought to maintain their civic nationalistic identity in WWII, against the Nazis, whose ideology was based on extreme ethnic nationalism.

The UK was just as "ethnic nationalist" as the Nazis were back then. Hell they occupied pretty much half the world (exaggeration) during the war.

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#421 Teenaged
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[QUOTE="Teenaged"]

[QUOTE="AHUGECAT"]

Britain declared war on the Nazis, actually.

Britain fought for their country, to make sure it didn't get taken over by a foreign power. Now it is.

Britain sacrified her empire to protect its spirit, and now its spirit has been ripped away.

The first step to destroy a nation is to take away nationalism.

AHUGECAT

(RED) You'll have to prove the intent in order for your claims to have any plausibility.

When a minority presence becomes so overwhelming they will demand autonomy, think of Kosovo, Northern Cyprus, and the Basque Regions of Spain.

England will be a white British minority by 2100 - though that was a 2000 estimation, it's probably around 2020-30 now. England has surrended the country.

They wont, if they are successfuly integrated into the society which they entered. That is if they are not treated as a threat, like you suggest they are. :|

Regardless, even if in the end that is what happens, that still doesnt prove that they intended to take over the nation. I await for you to prove it.

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#422 skelebull3000
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[QUOTE="AHUGECAT"]

[QUOTE="Ninja-Hippo"] There are 487,000 polish people who are permanent residents in the UK. For every polish person, there are 120 white british people. :|

Bourbons3

For now.

as I said tht was London though. English people won't even fly their once proud flag anymore. Is this what your ancestors fought for in WWII?

The reason they wont fly the Union Jack anymore is because of people like you have hijacked it. I'd gladly make more use of my flag, but doing so would make me look like some crazy nationalist, and I just don't need the hassle. Its people like you who are causing that problem, not people who fly different flags. And please stop going on about the war! What about soldiers from India, Africa, and the Caribbean? What about the money India lent us that actually allowed us to fight? Stop trying to hijack people's reasons for fighting. A lot of them fought because they were conscripted. Not because they wanted to stop Polish flags flying in London.

They actually declared war on Germany after Germany attacked Poland :lol:

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#423 AHUGECAT
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[QUOTE="AHUGECAT"]

[QUOTE="Ninja-Hippo"] There are 487,000 polish people who are permanent residents in the UK. For every polish person, there are 120 white british people. :|

Bourbons3

For now.

as I said tht was London though. English people won't even fly their once proud flag anymore. Is this what your ancestors fought for in WWII?

The reason they wont fly the Union Jack anymore is because of people like you have hijacked it. I'd gladly make more use of my flag, but doing so would make me look like some crazy nationalist, and I just don't need the hassle. Its people like you who are causing that problem, not people who fly different flags. And please stop going on about the war! What about soldiers from India, Africa, and the Caribbean? What about the money India lent us that actually allowed us to fight? Stop trying to hijack people's reasons for fighting. A lot of them fought because they were conscripted. Not because they wanted to stop Polish flags flying in London.

Um you do know the only reason India helped out was because of the British Raj right?

Jeez, Britain has been so hijacked the British don't even know their own history anymore.

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#424 balls_out
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lol i didn't think my topic would create such a large amount of posts! :D

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Anything involving politics, or religion will get up to over 9000! posts.:P
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#425 Ninja-Hippo
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2000 estimation, it's probably around 2020-30 now. England has surrended the country.

AHUGECAT
In order for white people to become a minority by 2020, non-white people would have to enter this country at a rate of 800,000 a year. The population by 2020, if that were to happen, would also be thirty million more than the country's economy can feasibly support, and would be top of the UN table as the most over populated nation on earth, and by a vast degree.
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#426 Teenaged
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[QUOTE="AHUGECAT"]

[QUOTE="PannicAtack"] They fought to make the Nazis stop bombing them. The Nazis. Who were a Fascist movement. Fascism being an extreme form of Nationalism.PannicAtack

Britain declared war on the Nazis, actually.

Britain fought for their country, to make sure it didn't get taken over by a foreign power. Now it is.

Britain sacrified her empire to protect its spirit, and now its spirit has been ripped away.

The first step to destroy a nation is to take away nationalism.

Who talks like this?

You dont mean..................... :| .......

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#427 PannicAtack
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[QUOTE="Bourbons3"][QUOTE="AHUGECAT"]

For now.

as I said tht was London though. English people won't even fly their once proud flag anymore. Is this what your ancestors fought for in WWII?

AHUGECAT

The reason they wont fly the Union Jack anymore is because of people like you have hijacked it. I'd gladly make more use of my flag, but doing so would make me look like some crazy nationalist, and I just don't need the hassle. Its people like you who are causing that problem, not people who fly different flags. And please stop going on about the war! What about soldiers from India, Africa, and the Caribbean? What about the money India lent us that actually allowed us to fight? Stop trying to hijack people's reasons for fighting. A lot of them fought because they were conscripted. Not because they wanted to stop Polish flags flying in London.

Um you do know the only reason India helped out was because of the British Raj right?

Jeez, Britain has been so hijacked the British don't even know their own history anymore.

You mean like the BNP supporter in this thread who doesn't know who Purcell is?
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#428 Bourbons3
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[QUOTE="Bourbons3"][QUOTE="AHUGECAT"]

For now.

as I said tht was London though. English people won't even fly their once proud flag anymore. Is this what your ancestors fought for in WWII?

AHUGECAT

The reason they wont fly the Union Jack anymore is because of people like you have hijacked it. I'd gladly make more use of my flag, but doing so would make me look like some crazy nationalist, and I just don't need the hassle. Its people like you who are causing that problem, not people who fly different flags. And please stop going on about the war! What about soldiers from India, Africa, and the Caribbean? What about the money India lent us that actually allowed us to fight? Stop trying to hijack people's reasons for fighting. A lot of them fought because they were conscripted. Not because they wanted to stop Polish flags flying in London.

Um you do know the only reason India helped out was because of the British Raj right?

Jeez, Britain has been so hijacked the British don't even know their own history anymore.

Yes, India contributed soldiers because it was our territory. I know that. My point was that not everyone who fought on our side was what the BNP would today class as "British". But way to skirt over the rest of my post.
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#429 Ninja-Hippo
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Ah well, i guess if the BNP ever do come into power i'll just have to be shipped off back home. Then maybe they'll trace back your genealogy and find something they dont like, and we can all have a good laugh about it on the boat.
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#430 AHUGECAT
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[QUOTE="AHUGECAT"]

2000 estimation, it's probably around 2020-30 now. England has surrended the country.

Ninja-Hippo

In order for white people to become a minority by 2020, non-white people would have to enter this country at a rate of 800,000 a year. The population by 2020, if that were to happen, would also be thirty million more than the country's economy can feasibly support, and would be top of the UN table as the most over populated nation on earth, and by a vast degree.

And that's exactly what's happening.

It's not just immigration though, its fertility rate as well. White British people have low fertility rates as well.

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#431 LJS9502_basic
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All this arguing and no one is going to change their opinion when all is said and done.
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#432 AHUGECAT
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[QUOTE="AHUGECAT"]

[QUOTE="Bourbons3"] The reason they wont fly the Union Jack anymore is because of people like you have hijacked it. I'd gladly make more use of my flag, but doing so would make me look like some crazy nationalist, and I just don't need the hassle. Its people like you who are causing that problem, not people who fly different flags. And please stop going on about the war! What about soldiers from India, Africa, and the Caribbean? What about the money India lent us that actually allowed us to fight? Stop trying to hijack people's reasons for fighting. A lot of them fought because they were conscripted. Not because they wanted to stop Polish flags flying in London.Bourbons3

Um you do know the only reason India helped out was because of the British Raj right?

Jeez, Britain has been so hijacked the British don't even know their own history anymore.

Yes, India contributed soldiers because it was our territory. I know that. My point was that not everyone who fought on our side was what the BNP would today class as "British". But way to skirt over the rest of my post.

They only helped because they were forced to, not because they wanted to fight on the British side.

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#433 Ninja-Hippo
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[QUOTE="AHUGECAT"]

Britain fought for their country, to make sure it didn't get taken over by a foreign power. Now it is.

Britain sacrified her empire to protect its spirit, and now its spirit has been ripped away.

The first step to destroy a nation is to take away nationalism.

Ninja-Hippo

Once again, 88% white british. How you can say the country has been over run by a foreign power is just absurd. You also deflect the point that you are supporting a party which would have me and my family deported.


You're happy for me to be shipped off then, i assume?

Remember above all, that Mushroom and AHUGECAT have both ignored this question throughout this thread. It is the one question which no BNP member seems capable of answering.

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#434 Ninja-Hippo
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[QUOTE="Ninja-Hippo"][QUOTE="AHUGECAT"]

2000 estimation, it's probably around 2020-30 now. England has surrended the country.

AHUGECAT

In order for white people to become a minority by 2020, non-white people would have to enter this country at a rate of 800,000 a year. The population by 2020, if that were to happen, would also be thirty million more than the country's economy can feasibly support, and would be top of the UN table as the most over populated nation on earth, and by a vast degree.

And that's exactly what's happening.

It's not just immigration though, its fertility rate as well. White British people have low fertility rates as well.

You think the population of Britain will be 130,000,000 in ten years? Double what it is today? :|
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#436 AHUGECAT
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[QUOTE="Ninja-Hippo"]

[QUOTE="AHUGECAT"]

Britain fought for their country, to make sure it didn't get taken over by a foreign power. Now it is.

Britain sacrified her empire to protect its spirit, and now its spirit has been ripped away.

The first step to destroy a nation is to take away nationalism.

Ninja-Hippo

Once again, 88% white british. How you can say the country has been over run by a foreign power is just absurd. You also deflect the point that you are supporting a party which would have me and my family deported.


You're happy for me to be shipped off then, i assume?

Remember above all, that Mushroom and AHUGECAT have both ignored this question throughout this thread. It is the one question which no BNP member seems capable of answering.

They wouldn't ship everyone of them out. How many generations has your family been in Britain?

Listen, if I lived in somewhere like China, Japan, Pakistan, etc. etc. they'd have no problem shipping me out.

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#437 AHUGECAT
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[QUOTE="AHUGECAT"]

[QUOTE="Ninja-Hippo"] In order for white people to become a minority by 2020, non-white people would have to enter this country at a rate of 800,000 a year. The population by 2020, if that were to happen, would also be thirty million more than the country's economy can feasibly support, and would be top of the UN table as the most over populated nation on earth, and by a vast degree. Ninja-Hippo

And that's exactly what's happening.

It's not just immigration though, its fertility rate as well. White British people have low fertility rates as well.

You think the population of Britain will be 130,000,000 in ten years? Double what it is today? :|

No, I don't know how you get that number.

A rate of 800,000 a year = 8 million in ten years, but you have to county low fertility rates as well.

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[QUOTE="Ninja-Hippo"]

[QUOTE="AHUGECAT"]

Britain fought for their country, to make sure it didn't get taken over by a foreign power. Now it is.

Britain sacrified her empire to protect its spirit, and now its spirit has been ripped away.

The first step to destroy a nation is to take away nationalism.

Ninja-Hippo

Once again, 88% white british. How you can say the country has been over run by a foreign power is just absurd. You also deflect the point that you are supporting a party which would have me and my family deported.


You're happy for me to be shipped off then, i assume?

Remember above all, that Mushroom and AHUGECAT have both ignored this question throughout this thread. It is the one question which no BNP member seems capable of answering.

Fear of direct confrontation. Fear seems to be the driving force of these movements. I just don't understand what exactly they're fearing...

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#439 Ninja-Hippo
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They wouldn't ship everyone of them out. How many generations has your family been in Britain?

Listen, if I lived in somewhere like China, Japan, Pakistan, etc. etc. they'd have no problem shipping me out.

AHUGECAT

Why wouldn't they ship everyone out when they've said quite clearly:

'Every non-white person will be repatriated, regardless of whether or not they were born here' as well as 'we will not rest until every last one of them have left out land.' And that's not some nut in their party, that's their LEADER.

And i'm not telling you a damn thing about my family. As if the number of generations we've lived in this country somehow affects our worth as human beings? Honestly, i'm out. Your views are your own, but i find them absolutely abhorrent.

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[QUOTE="-Sun_Tzu-"][QUOTE="AHUGECAT"]

Britain declared war on the Nazis, actually.

Britain fought for their country, to make sure it didn't get taken over by a foreign power. Now it is.

Britain sacrified her empire to protect its spirit, and now its spirit has been ripped away.

The first step to destroy a nation is to take away nationalism.

AHUGECAT

There's a big difference between ethnic nationalism and civic nationalism. The UK fought to maintain their civic nationalistic identity in WWII, against the Nazis, whose ideology was based on extreme ethnic nationalism.

The UK was just as "ethnic nationalist" as the Nazis were back then. Hell they occupied pretty much half the world (exaggeration) during the war.

Was there a lot of ethnic nationalism in the UK - yes. European imperialism was based on the "fact" that Europeans were superior to the rest of the world. But to compare it with that of the Nazis is absurd. And when you read Winston Churchill's pamphlets warning about the danger that Nazi Germany poses to the UK (and the rest of the world for that matter), he never said that the German race has to be defeated in order to preserve the English, Irish, and Scottish races. He based his arguments on civic nationalism, and that the British people reject everything that Nazi Germany stood for ideologically.
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#441 PannicAtack
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[QUOTE="Ninja-Hippo"]

[QUOTE="Ninja-Hippo"] Once again, 88% white british. How you can say the country has been over run by a foreign power is just absurd. You also deflect the point that you are supporting a party which would have me and my family deported.


You're happy for me to be shipped off then, i assume?

AHUGECAT

Remember above all, that Mushroom and AHUGECAT have both ignored this question throughout this thread. It is the one question which no BNP member seems capable of answering.

They wouldn't ship everyone of them out. How many generations has your family been in Britain?

Listen, if I lived in somewhere like China, Japan, Pakistan, etc. etc. they'd have no problem shipping me out.

And they're full of crap. Why does that validate the BNP?

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#442 AHUGECAT
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[QUOTE="AHUGECAT"]

[QUOTE="-Sun_Tzu-"] There's a big difference between ethnic nationalism and civic nationalism. The UK fought to maintain their civic nationalistic identity in WWII, against the Nazis, whose ideology was based on extreme ethnic nationalism. -Sun_Tzu-

The UK was just as "ethnic nationalist" as the Nazis were back then. Hell they occupied pretty much half the world (exaggeration) during the war.

Was there a lot of ethnic nationalism in the UK - yes. European imperialism was based on the "fact" that Europeans were superior to the rest of the world. But to compare it with that of the Nazis is absurd. And when you read Winston Churchill's pamphlets warning about the danger that Nazi Germany poses to the UK (and the rest of the world for that matter), he never said that the German race has to be defeated in order to preserve the English, Irish, and Scottish races. He based his arguments on civic nationalism, and that the British people reject everything that Nazi Germany stood for ideologically.

Yet Winston Churchill allied with Josef Stalin.

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#443 Ninja-Hippo
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No, I don't know how you get that number.

A rate of 800,000 a year = 8 million in ten years, but you have to county low fertility rates as well.

AHUGECAT

Forgive me, i forgot zeros in the original post. The rate would have to be eight MILLION non-whites entering the country a year to make whites the minority by 2020. :roll:

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[QUOTE="Bourbons3"][QUOTE="AHUGECAT"]

Um you do know the only reason India helped out was because of the British Raj right?

Jeez, Britain has been so hijacked the British don't even know their own history anymore.

AHUGECAT

Yes, India contributed soldiers because it was our territory. I know that. My point was that not everyone who fought on our side was what the BNP would today class as "British". But way to skirt over the rest of my post.

They only helped because they were forced to, not because they wanted to fight on the British side.

And the reason we introduced conscription was because not enough British people wanted to fight. So don't go on about some romantic view of WW2, where men volunteered at the drop of a hat to serve King and Country. They didn't. And they wouldn't have been anywhere near as successful if it weren't for troops from other parts of the Empire, most of them black and asian.
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#445 PannicAtack
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[QUOTE="AHUGECAT"]

No, I don't know how you get that number.

A rate of 800,000 a year = 8 million in ten years, but you have to county low fertility rates as well.

Ninja-Hippo

Forgive me, i forgot zeros in the original post. The rate would have to be eight MILLION non-whites entering the country a year to make whites the minority by 2020. :roll:

2020. I notice that's far enough in the future for someone to not have to admit to being wrong.
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#446 AHUGECAT
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[QUOTE="AHUGECAT"]

No, I don't know how you get that number.

A rate of 800,000 a year = 8 million in ten years, but you have to county low fertility rates as well.

Ninja-Hippo

Forgive me, i forgot zeros in the original post. The rate would have to be eight MILLION non-whites entering the country a year to make whites the minority by 2020. :roll:

Oh, well that's hard to tell because you put 800 comma 000.

Anyways, maybe 2020 is an exaggeration, but 2030 or 2040 even sounds reasonable due to the low fertitliy rates.

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Currently: Waah waah, Britiain has changed, look at all these ethnics. 500 years ago: Waah waah, Britains has changed, look at all these ethnics.
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#448 -Sun_Tzu-
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[QUOTE="-Sun_Tzu-"][QUOTE="AHUGECAT"]

The UK was just as "ethnic nationalist" as the Nazis were back then. Hell they occupied pretty much half the world (exaggeration) during the war.

AHUGECAT

Was there a lot of ethnic nationalism in the UK - yes. European imperialism was based on the "fact" that Europeans were superior to the rest of the world. But to compare it with that of the Nazis is absurd. And when you read Winston Churchill's pamphlets warning about the danger that Nazi Germany poses to the UK (and the rest of the world for that matter), he never said that the German race has to be defeated in order to preserve the English, Irish, and Scottish races. He based his arguments on civic nationalism, and that the British people reject everything that Nazi Germany stood for ideologically.

Yet Winston Churchill allied with Josef Stalin.

Yes, he famously said that if Hitler were to invade hell he'd consider saying something favorably of the devil in the house of commons. He was still vehemently opposed to Bolshevism, he and the rest of the allies saw Stalin as the lesser of the two evils.
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#449 Bourbons3
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[QUOTE="AHUGECAT"]

[QUOTE="-Sun_Tzu-"] Was there a lot of ethnic nationalism in the UK - yes. European imperialism was based on the "fact" that Europeans were superior to the rest of the world. But to compare it with that of the Nazis is absurd. And when you read Winston Churchill's pamphlets warning about the danger that Nazi Germany poses to the UK (and the rest of the world for that matter), he never said that the German race has to be defeated in order to preserve the English, Irish, and Scottish races. He based his arguments on civic nationalism, and that the British people reject everything that Nazi Germany stood for ideologically. -Sun_Tzu-

Yet Winston Churchill allied with Josef Stalin.

Yes, he famously said that if Hitler were to invade hell he'd consider saying something favorably of the devil in the house of commons. He was still vehemently opposed to Bolshevism, he and the rest of the allies saw Stalin as the lesser of the two evils.

Exactly. "The enemy of my enemy is my friend". It has its drawbacks, but it was necessary. It doesn't take away the deep distrust Churchill had for Stalin.
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#450 Ninja-Hippo
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[QUOTE="Ninja-Hippo"]

[QUOTE="AHUGECAT"]

No, I don't know how you get that number.

A rate of 800,000 a year = 8 million in ten years, but you have to county low fertility rates as well.

AHUGECAT

Forgive me, i forgot zeros in the original post. The rate would have to be eight MILLION non-whites entering the country a year to make whites the minority by 2020. :roll:

Oh, well that's hard to tell because you put 800 comma 000.

Anyways, maybe 2020 is an exaggeration, but 2030 or 2040 even sounds reasonable due to the low fertitliy rates.

No it doesn't 50 million white people aren't going to die and none of which be replaced by white kids by 2030 or 40. Let's take 2040. For that to happen, non white immigrants would have to come in at a rate of TWO MILLION a year. That is just an absurdly high number. Either you propose that the population will again DOUBLE in just thirty years, or you propose that sixty million white people will die between now and thirty years from now (despite the average life expectancy being in the 70s-80s) oh and the real doozy being that NONE of those white people can leave behind kids. Absurd. Even going by 2040, it's utterly absurd.