British dude slams the idea of a mosque at the WTC

If you believe 9/11 didn't change anything, you are severely mistaken.InEMplease

It's not ON the site, and for ****'s sake, 9/11 didn't change ****.
Honestly, in one day, more people die of heart disease than died in the twin towers, so shut the **** up about 9/11.jaydough

[QUOTE="UnknownSniper65"]

It still shows a lack of common decency building the "community center" as close as possible to ground zero.

jaydough

[QUOTE="jaydough"][QUOTE="UnknownSniper65"]

It still shows a lack of common decency building the "community center" as close as possible to ground zero.

Baconbits2004

They arn't opening it on 911.

[QUOTE="InEMplease"]If you believe 9/11 didn't change anything, you are severely mistaken.jaydough

It's how the world works. American lives are worth many more times then those of other countries.

Whether we choose to accept this stake in the ground or not is up in the air. Not to go off topic, but it's the difference between a globalist and a nationalist -- if I were to use those terms loosely.

So I guess using that same logic pearl harbor didn't change **** either? Jesus that logic sucks.Duckman5

[QUOTE="jaydough"][QUOTE="UnknownSniper65"]

It still shows a lack of common decency building the "community center" as close as possible to ground zero.

Baconbits2004

Comes with a picture? You don't know what you're talking about. All of Manhattan, one of the most populated cities of America, saw those buildings collapse, causing thousands of people to lose family members and friends in the span of a couple of hours. I saw the smoke cover the horizon from the Bronx while in my elementary school. My father who was in Manhattan at the time saw all the people covered in blood and debris, and was unable to come home for many hours because of the event. Whether or not you believe the event was significant, it sure as hell was for millions of people.InEMplease

[QUOTE="jaydough"][QUOTE="InEMplease"]If you believe 9/11 didn't change anything, you are severely mistaken.InEMplease

Comes with a picture? You don't know what you're talking about. All of Manhattan, one of the most populated cities of America, saw those buildings collapse, causing thousands of people to lose family members and friends in the span of a couple of hours. I saw the smoke cover the horizon from the Bronx while in my elementary school. My father who was in Manhattan at the time saw all the people covered in blood and debris, and was unable to come home for many hours because of the event. Whether or not you believe the event was significant, it sure as hell was for millions of people.

i think that nothing should be built where the twin towers once stood other than a memorial site. but that's just my 2 cent on the issue.

An entire religion was not stigmatized. People knew from the beginning that it was caused by terrorists, and terrorists are terrorusts no matter the religion. The patriot act, as invasive as it is, was put in place for our own protection, or so our government would have us believe. People in New York are reminded of it evertime we look over Manhattan and find it missing it's two front teeth.InEMplease

You just compared 9/11 to stubbing your toe. I'm done with you.InEMplease

i think that nothing should be built where the twin towers once stood other than a memorial site. but that's just my 2 cent on the issue.

calzeta930

They're building another WTC there, last I heard.

There are plenty of places where building a mosque wouldn't be seen as the least bit controversial... Ground Zero is not, however, one of those places...67gt500

Who is building a mosque at ground zero?

[QUOTE="Baconbits2004"][QUOTE="jaydough"] It's like opening a gun store a mile away from where Kennedy was shot. Who cares?Pixel-Pirate

They arn't opening it on 911.

LOL at a GOP member winning New York. In either case, I thought the GOP was small government? What's more grass routes then a community board? SquatsAreAwesom

Christie won in NJ. LOL at not paying attention to east coast politics.

[QUOTE="Pixel-Pirate"]They arn't opening it on 911.Baconbits2004

Saw this a few days ago. I agree with most/all of what he said.

I have no problem with them building a mosque anywhere but of all the places???? I honestly can see where the people complaing are coming from

legend26

Yeah AND they are opening it on september 11th?.... Seriously that is such BS that its unbelievable

[QUOTE="CocoMarshmellow"]Why do I care what... "British dude" thinks?EmpCom

More than 90 nations lost citizens that day...

[QUOTE="SquatsAreAwesom"]

Why would we care what a British person thinks when the community board in Manhattan approved of the buildings construction? In other words, those that represent the people who live in that neighborhood approve.

It is also funny that this continues to be refered to as a mosque. It's a community center.

Former_Slacker

Actually I don't think most people know the building is a community center with a mosque on one floor, which is what is causing some of the opposition to be opposed.

Well then, that makes them idiots for opposing something that they don't know jack **** about.

I agree with him, it is without a doubt a tasteless thing to do in my opinion. I'm not overly upset by it or anything, but come on, we're going out of our way to please muslims on the matter. What really grinds my gears though is this country's false sense of equlity. You can bet if some radical Christian group had been behind the act there's no way they would be allowed to build a church ANYWHERE near there, yet true Christians in many ways hold less hatefulviews than true Muslims do.

jamejame

Take any one of the abortion clinics which has been violently targetted by Christian fundamentalists.

I'm willing to bet that at least one of those locations, a church has later sprung up nearby without any opposition whatsoever.

I think building it in that location is stupid and wouldn't be surpised if people attempt to burn it down or something. Common sense would tell you alot of people are going to get very upset over this, so why cause all this controversy.

[QUOTE="legend26"]

I have no problem with them building a mosque anywhere but of all the places???? I honestly can see where the people complaing are coming from

VendettaRed07

Yeah AND they are opening it on september 11th?.... Seriously that is such BS that its unbelievable

[QUOTE="Pixel-Pirate"]

[QUOTE="Baconbits2004"] But opening it up on the anniversary of the day he was shot, with a picture of the same gun that shot him? o.OBaconbits2004

They arn't opening it on 911.

British dude lied. They haven't even started construction. You think they can build a huge community center in less than 2 months?

It seems 90% of the rage of this is from misinformation

Lets do a Q and A here.

Q: Is this a mosque?

A: No. It is a community center with a mosque in one of the floors. It is not a giant islamic architechture building.

Q: Is this being built on ground zero?

A: No. It is being built atleast a block if not more from the former site of the WTC.

Q: Are they opening on 911?

A: No date is planned yet.

He said 9/11 2011 to celebrate the 10th anniversary. not two months from now. O.o not disputing your Q&A, just saying it's not what he said. Baconbits2004

Building isn't even planned yet.

He has nothing to back up what he says.

Is this guy speaking an atheist?

[QUOTE="Baconbits2004"]He said 9/11 2011 to celebrate the 10th anniversary. not two months from now. O.o not disputing your Q&A, just saying it's not what he said. Pixel-Pirate

Building isn't even planned yet.

He has nothing to back up what he says.

Is this guy speaking an atheist?

moccassins

He said 9/11 2011 to celebrate the 10th anniversary. not two months from now. O.o not disputing your Q&A, just saying it's not what he said. Baconbits2004

Building isn't even planned yet.

He has nothing to back up what he says.

[QUOTE="SquatsAreAwesom"]LOL at a GOP member winning New York. In either case, I thought the GOP was small government? What's more grass routes then a community board? airshocker

Christie won in NJ. LOL at not paying attention to east coast politics.

Why does it matter if he's British? Whenever somebody who's not American does something, his nationality is mentioned in the title. :?

[QUOTE="Baconbits2004"][QUOTE="Pixel-Pirate"]

They arn't opening it on 911.

Pixel-Pirate

British dude lied. They haven't even started construction. You think they can build a huge community center in less than 2 months?

It seems 90% of the rage of this is from misinformation

Lets do a Q and A here.

Q: Is this a mosque?

A: No. It is a community center with a mosque in one of the floors. It is not a giant islamic architechture building.

Q: Is this being built on ground zero?

A: No. It is being built atleast a block if not more from the former site of the WTC.

Q: Are they opening on 911?

A: No date is planned yet.

2). He said it was being built a block or two away.

3). Yeah, I don't think there's a date yet.

[QUOTE="ghoklebutter"]I don't have a problem with the mosque itself, just the location. In a perfect world, we could get a loudspeaker and scream "NOT ALL MUSLIMS WERE RESPONSIBLE FOR 911". But obviously, that's not possible. Therefore, Muslims should just avoid building anything there.kipohippo021

More like a sign of victory.

[QUOTE="Pixel-Pirate"]

[QUOTE="Baconbits2004"] British Dude said they were =OSnipes_2

British dude lied. They haven't even started construction. You think they can build a huge community center in less than 2 months?

It seems 90% of the rage of this is from misinformation

Lets do a Q and A here.

Q: Is this a mosque?

A: No. It is a community center with a mosque in one of the floors. It is not a giant islamic architechture building.

Q: Is this being built on ground zero?

A: No. It is being built atleast a block if not more from the former site of the WTC.

Q: Are they opening on 911?

A: No date is planned yet.

2). He said it was being built a block or two away.

3). Yeah, I don't think there's a date yet.

http://www.cordobainitiative.org/?q=content/cordoba-house-new-york-city

"The site will contain tremendous amounts of resources that otherwise would not exist in Lower Manhattan; a 500-seat auditorium, swimming pool, art exhibition spaces, bookstores, restaurants - all these services would form a cultural nexus for a region of New York City that, as it continues to grow, requires the sort of hub that Cordoba House will provide."

I completely agree with him..unfortunately a majority of New Yorkers/not enough appear not to share my mentality on the subject..as far as i can tell at least..

[QUOTE="Snipes_2"]

[QUOTE="Pixel-Pirate"]

British dude lied. They haven't even started construction. You think they can build a huge community center in less than 2 months?

It seems 90% of the rage of this is from misinformation

Lets do a Q and A here.

Q: Is this a mosque?

A: No. It is a community center with a mosque in one of the floors. It is not a giant islamic architechture building.

Q: Is this being built on ground zero?

A: No. It is being built atleast a block if not more from the former site of the WTC.

Q: Are they opening on 911?

A: No date is planned yet.

SquatsAreAwesom

2). He said it was being built a block or two away.

3). Yeah, I don't think there's a date yet.

http://www.cordobainitiative.org/?q=content/cordoba-house-new-york-city

"The site will contain tremendous amounts of resources that otherwise would not exist in Lower Manhattan; a 500-seat auditorium, swimming pool, art exhibition spaces, bookstores, restaurants - all these services would form a cultural nexus for a region of New York City that, as it continues to grow, requires the sort of hub that Cordoba House will provide."

So every news organization reporting it as an Islamic Center and Mosque is wrong? I'm not buying any information from THEIR site.

Pat has this tendency to go sensationalist at times. I think he may be going senile, or rather he's been there for a while.

He brings up some good points, no one should be bending over for any religion, especially in somewhat controversial circumstances such as these.

Well at least he made a video that isn't his typical monthly rant on burqas.

...............Snipes_2

[QUOTE="Snipes_2"]...............SquatsAreAwesom

Every site says it is a Mosque and Islamic Center:

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&rlz=1G1GGLQ_ENUS354&q=community+center+at+ground+zero&aq=2&aqi=g6g-m2&aql=&oq=Community+Center+at+&gs_rfai=

...Snipes_2

[QUOTE="Snipes_2"]...SquatsAreAwesom

"Our purpose is to interweave America's Muslim population into the mainstream society."Imam Feisal Abdul Rauf says the whole point of the proposed Muslim center blocks from the World Trade Center is to heal wounds, not open them.

[QUOTE="SquatsAreAwesom"][QUOTE="Snipes_2"]...Snipes_2

[QUOTE="Pixel-Pirate"]

[QUOTE="Baconbits2004"] British Dude said they were =OSnipes_2

British dude lied. They haven't even started construction. You think they can build a huge community center in less than 2 months?

It seems 90% of the rage of this is from misinformation

Lets do a Q and A here.

Q: Is this a mosque?

A: No. It is a community center with a mosque in one of the floors. It is not a giant islamic architechture building.

Q: Is this being built on ground zero?

A: No. It is being built atleast a block if not more from the former site of the WTC.

Q: Are they opening on 911?

A: No date is planned yet.

2). He said it was being built a block or two away.

3). Yeah, I don't think there's a date yet.