Danish cartoonist attacked at home

[QUOTE="htekemerald"]

[QUOTE="Disturbed123"]

Freedom of Speech my ***. Anyone with half a brain cell would know that picture drawn intentionally to hurt muslims. Theres a difference between freedom of speech and being down right offensive!

Disturbed123

Thats the thing i have heard today. Anyone is capable of getting hurt, whether its of small things or large matters. Clearly this was a large matter that hurt millions of people. Theyre people who are numb to certain matters because they dont have a clue about it. A person insults jesus, a christian would be deeply offended, but an athiest wouldnt think anything of it.

No no no ,i'm talking here about feelings of ppl who have directly been affected by my imaginary articles ;)

Holocaust survivors and their families,Descendants of slaves,victims of abuse (3 examples only) how would they feel ?

don't really care about feelings of neutrals in this case ,as i stated previously just because i can doesn't mean that i should .

pecanin

Political correctness can lick my boots.

[QUOTE="joesh89"]

[QUOTE="gubrushadow"] but it hurts the feelings of a billion and a half people !!!!!!gubrushadow

So what? :?

It provided me with a laugh.

You just hurt my feelings :(

[QUOTE="gubrushadow"][QUOTE="joesh89"]So what? :? It provided me with a laugh.joesh89

[QUOTE="smc91352"][QUOTE="gubrushadow"]why would they mock our prophet ?? why would they make fun of him ?? we love jesus , why wont they at least have no offence against prophet muhammad ?? even un-religouse people would be better than religous ones who mock others . these people make our people look bad , if i were there .......gubrushadow

He has freedom of speech, so he can draw whatever he wants, but he has to be able to deal with the conseqcuences.

MrTorry

Still, these consequences are very unreasonable.

[QUOTE="MrTorry"]He has freedom of speech, so he can draw whatever he wants, but he has to be able to deal with the conseqcuences.

_Tobli_

Still, these consequences are very unreasonable.

Tsk tsk, the typical Islamic extremist attention seeking scum always making Islam look like the bad guy.

Vesica_Prime

Tsk tsk, the typical Islamic extremist attention seeking scum always making Islam look like the bad guy.

According to this thread, freedom of speech is no longer ok.

0_0

Sometimes, Freedom of speech will cause trouble rather then solution. Still a right however.Treflis

In Islam, it is very forbidden to depict Allah, Muhammad, or any religious being in drawings or images of any kind. The beings are so sacred that not even visual depictions are allowed. However, in place of visual devotions such as images and statues, they have elaborate poetry and calligraphy instead.

"Freedom of speech" just doesn't cut it when you completely disrespect something that is considered to be very sacred to a large population.

[QUOTE="Treflis"]Sometimes, Freedom of speech will cause trouble rather then solution. Still a right however.Shad0ki11

In Islam, it is very forbidden to depict Allah, Muhammad, or any religious being in drawings or images of any kind. The beings are so sacred that not even visual depictions are allowed. However, in place of visual devotions such as images and statues, they have elaborate poetry and calligraphy instead.

"Freedom of speech" just doesn't cut it when you completely disrespect something that is considered to be very sacred to a large population.

[QUOTE="Treflis"]Sometimes, Freedom of speech will cause trouble rather then solution. Still a right however.Shad0ki11

In Islam, it is very forbidden to depict Allah, Muhammad, or any religious being in drawings or images of any kind. The beings are so sacred that not even visual depictions are allowed. However, in place of visual devotions such as images and statues, they have elaborate poetry and calligraphy instead.

"Freedom of speech" just doesn't cut it when you completely disrespect something that is considered to be very sacred to a large population.

[QUOTE="Shad0ki11"]

[QUOTE="Treflis"]Sometimes, Freedom of speech will cause trouble rather then solution. Still a right however.LJS9502_basic

In Islam, it is very forbidden to depict Allah, Muhammad, or any religious being in drawings or images of any kind. The beings are so sacred that not even visual depictions are allowed. However, in place of visual devotions such as images and statues, they have elaborate poetry and calligraphy instead.

"Freedom of speech" just doesn't cut it when you completely disrespect something that is considered to be very sacred to a large population.

They're not expecting him to follow beliefs, just to show respect at the very least.

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="Shad0ki11"]

In Islam, it is very forbidden to depict Allah, Muhammad, or any religious being in drawings or images of any kind. The beings are so sacred that not even visual depictions are allowed. However, in place of visual devotions such as images and statues, they have elaborate poetry and calligraphy instead.

"Freedom of speech" just doesn't cut it when you completely disrespect something that is considered to be very sacred to a large population.

Shad0ki11

They're not expecting him to follow beliefs, just to show respect at the very least.

[QUOTE="Shad0ki11"]

[QUOTE="Treflis"]Sometimes, Freedom of speech will cause trouble rather then solution. Still a right however.UnknownSniper65

In Islam, it is very forbidden to depict Allah, Muhammad, or any religious being in drawings or images of any kind. The beings are so sacred that not even visual depictions are allowed. However, in place of visual devotions such as images and statues, they have elaborate poetry and calligraphy instead.

"Freedom of speech" just doesn't cut it when you completely disrespect something that is considered to be very sacred to a large population.

We can insult and question our government all we want, but we can't make any threats.

[QUOTE="Shad0ki11"]

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"] The faithful have no right expecting the non faithful to follow any of their beliefs. Sorry but that is not an excuse....LJS9502_basic

They're not expecting him to follow beliefs, just to show respect at the very least.

What would be difference between me drawing a picture of Muhammad and defacing a statue of Mary?

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="Shad0ki11"]

In Islam, it is very forbidden to depict Allah, Muhammad, or any religious being in drawings or images of any kind. The beings are so sacred that not even visual depictions are allowed. However, in place of visual devotions such as images and statues, they have elaborate poetry and calligraphy instead.

"Freedom of speech" just doesn't cut it when you completely disrespect something that is considered to be very sacred to a large population.

Shad0ki11

They're not expecting him to follow beliefs, just to show respect at the very least.

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="Shad0ki11"]

They're not expecting him to follow beliefs, just to show respect at the very least.

Shad0ki11

What would be difference between me drawing a picture of Muhammad and defacing a statue of Mary?

[QUOTE="Shad0ki11"]

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]You can't make...and have no right to make someone respect your beliefs. People have their own beliefs. Shouldn't they respect opposing beliefs then as well?LJS9502_basic

What would be difference between me drawing a picture of Muhammad and defacing a statue of Mary?

No. I know what Christians do.

On a spiritual level, there's not much of a difference between an image of Muhammad and defacing a statue of Mary. Both actions are forbidden and are considered extremely offensive in their respective religions. The only difference being that one group of people is more likely to do something about it besides just protesting.

No. I know what Christians do.

On a spiritual level, there's not much of a difference between an image of Muhammad and defacing a statue of Mary. Both actions are forbidden and are considered extremely offensive in their respective religions. The only difference being that one group of people is more likely to do something about it besides just protesting.

Shad0ki11

i never understood the point of the cartoons, i'm all for freedom of speec and expression but what was the point. as a muslim i wasnt offended cos i have better things to do than get upset over some stupid drawings but the cartoonists should have known if you draw prohet muhammed (pbuh) as a terrorist or with a bomb turban then there will be consequences for his actions. what was the point of the cartoons?-Y2J-

[QUOTE="Shad0ki11"]

No. I know what Christians do.

On a spiritual level, there's not much of a difference between an image of Muhammad and defacing a statue of Mary. Both actions are forbidden and are considered extremely offensive in their respective religions. The only difference being that one group of people is more likely to do something about it besides just protesting.

LJS9502_basic

This is not a matter of "forcing beliefs" at all or submitting yourself to another belief system, it's about not taking someone else's beliefs (regardless of what religion you are or they are) and shoving them up their ass just because you feel you have the freedom to do so.

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]

[QUOTE="Shad0ki11"]

No. I know what Christians do.

On a spiritual level, there's not much of a difference between an image of Muhammad and defacing a statue of Mary. Both actions are forbidden and are considered extremely offensive in their respective religions. The only difference being that one group of people is more likely to do something about it besides just protesting.

Shad0ki11

This is not a matter of "forcing beliefs" at all or submitting yourself to another belief system, it's about not taking someone else's beliefs (regardless of what religion you are or they are) and shoving them up their ass just because you feel you have the freedom to do so.

[QUOTE="Shad0ki11"]

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]I see no correlation than in your comparison. And doing something criminal is not right. You cannot force your beliefs on others nor make them respect said beliefs. Freedom demands you don't.

LJS9502_basic

This is not a matter of "forcing beliefs" at all or submitting yourself to another belief system, it's about not taking someone else's beliefs (regardless of what religion you are or they are) and shoving them up their ass just because you feel you have the freedom to do so.

I was raised as a Catholic, but I consider myself to be agnostic. I don't submit to Islam either or any other religion.

You think they're forcing their beliefs upon others regarding sacred imagery? Aren't you doing to the same thing by saying that the same action isn't offensive?

Person A thinks an image created by Person B is offensive.

Person B thinks the image is not offensive.

They both try to convince each other of what they believe; they're both trying to force their beliefs upon each other.

Yeah, that would change the perception of "all muslims are terrorists" - attacking a guy with an axe...

I was raised as a Catholic, but I consider myself to be agnostic. I don't submit to Islam either or any other religion.

You think they're forcing their beliefs upon others regarding sacred imagery? Aren't you doing to the same thing by saying that the same action isn't offensive?

Person A thinks an image created by Person B is offensive.

Person B thinks the image is not offensive.

They both try to convince each other of what they believe; they're both trying to force their beliefs upon each other.

Shad0ki11

[QUOTE="Treflis"]Sometimes, Freedom of speech will cause trouble rather then solution. Still a right however.Shad0ki11

In Islam, it is very forbidden to depict Allah, Muhammad, or any religious being in drawings or images of any kind. The beings are so sacred that not even visual depictions are allowed. However, in place of visual devotions such as images and statues, they have elaborate poetry and calligraphy instead.

"Freedom of speech" just doesn't cut it when you completely disrespect something that is considered to be very sacred to a large population.

[QUOTE="Shad0ki11"]

[QUOTE="Treflis"]Sometimes, Freedom of speech will cause trouble rather then solution. Still a right however.Treflis

In Islam, it is very forbidden to depict Allah, Muhammad, or any religious being in drawings or images of any kind. The beings are so sacred that not even visual depictions are allowed. However, in place of visual devotions such as images and statues, they have elaborate poetry and calligraphy instead.

"Freedom of speech" just doesn't cut it when you completely disrespect something that is considered to be very sacred to a large population.

You have a point there.

If I go up to someone and say their mom is a total ****, Freedom of Speech isn't going to prevent that person from trying to punch me in the face.

[QUOTE="joesh89"]

[QUOTE="gubrushadow"] but it hurts the feelings of a billion and a half people !!!!!!gubrushadow

So what? :?

It provided me with a laugh.

[QUOTE="Shad0ki11"]

I was raised as a Catholic, but I consider myself to be agnostic. I don't submit to Islam either or any other religion.

You think they're forcing their beliefs upon others regarding sacred imagery? Aren't you doing to the same thing by saying that the same action isn't offensive?

Person A thinks an image created by Person B is offensive.

Person B thinks the image is not offensive.

They both try to convince each other of what they believe; they're both trying to force their beliefs upon each other.

LJS9502_basic

i have never condoned violence in any of the posts in this thread.

My stance is that conflict can be avoided if you don't offend them in the first place. In other words: "No flamebait".

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]

[QUOTE="Shad0ki11"]

I was raised as a Catholic, but I consider myself to be agnostic. I don't submit to Islam either or any other religion.

You think they're forcing their beliefs upon others regarding sacred imagery? Aren't you doing to the same thing by saying that the same action isn't offensive?

Person A thinks an image created by Person B is offensive.

Person B thinks the image is not offensive.

They both try to convince each other of what they believe; they're both trying to force their beliefs upon each other.

Shad0ki11

i have never condoned violence in any of the posts in this thread.

My stance is that conflict can be avoided if you don't offend them in the first place. In other words: "No flamebait".

The prophet was a warlord, he deserves to be made fun of.Good-Apollo

Oh Rly?

[QUOTE="Shad0ki11"]

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]Ah but we don't use violence to achieve that. That is the difference....it seems you are saying violent reaction is okay and that freedom should be curtailed because someone may be offended. That is my understanding of your stance....

LJS9502_basic

i have never condoned violence in any of the posts in this thread.

My stance is that conflict can be avoided if you don't offend them in the first place. In other words: "No flamebait".

I totally agree with "No violence"

Innocent statements to us might not be innocent statement to others, so if we hit a nerve we shouldn't expect them brush it off and be okay with it.

It makes me wonder how many negative political cartoons are made by state own newspapers in the middle east against Christians and Jews?Jd1680a

It makes me wonder how many negative political cartoons are made by state own newspapers in the middle east against Christians and Jews?Jd1680a

The prophet was a warlord, he deserves to be made fun of.Good-Apollo

[QUOTE="smc91352"][QUOTE="gubrushadow"]why would they mock our prophet ?? why would they make fun of him ?? we love jesus , why wont they at least have no offence against prophet muhammad ?? even un-religouse people would be better than religous ones who mock others . these people make our people look bad , if i were there .......gubrushadow

The point of his cartoons is social commentary through satire. With his cartoon of Mohammed and a bomb, he wanted to show, as he put it himself, how muslim extremists have hijacked said prophet. Seeing as muslim extremists are too brainless to comprehend that, they turned it into 'he's mocking our religion', and basically proved Westergaard's point.

[QUOTE="Shad0ki11"]

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]Ah but we don't use violence to achieve that. That is the difference....it seems you are saying violent reaction is okay and that freedom should be curtailed because someone may be offended. That is my understanding of your stance....

LJS9502_basic

i have never condoned violence in any of the posts in this thread.

My stance is that conflict can be avoided if you don't offend them in the first place. In other words: "No flamebait".

[QUOTE="Good-Apollo"]The prophet was a warlord, he deserves to be made fun of.gubrushadow

Because the biggest monsters traditionally build the biggest empires.

[QUOTE="gubrushadow"][QUOTE="Good-Apollo"]The prophet was a warlord, he deserves to be made fun of.DraugenCP

Because the biggest monsters traditionally build the biggest empires.

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="Shad0ki11"]

i have never condoned violence in any of the posts in this thread.

My stance is that conflict can be avoided if you don't offend them in the first place. In other words: "No flamebait".

gubrushadow

How did you get to that conclusion? :|