Danish cartoonist attacked at home

to raise awareness on the flux of how muslims and their systems of faith are by concious and/or subconcious connotations being percieved in modern society (either by media or political populism), as terrorism grows to a continued rise in the new millenia. It´s to spark thought on a controversial matter that was relevant when the toons were drawed, and relevant today.

Now, was that really that hard to see? ...

BiancaDK

it's interesting how you use capacious expressions of ambiguous discourse to appear intellectual in espousing your slant while never actually answering the specific question that has been proposed to you aforementioned.

see I can use big words too!

anyway you didn't answer **** basically, nice fail.

I can read english.

but what you wrote had no relevance to a guy drawing a picture of muhammed with a bomb on his head.

if he was so truley concerned about islam he would have found a more meaningful approach of opening dialogue than flat out insulting them when he knows full well drawing the face of muhammed is forbidden.

[QUOTE="pecanin"]Toons(as you put showed to entire muslim world how they are perceived. no other discussion/seminar or religious debate was necessary after thatBiancaDK

Whatever point you´re trying to get across, i literally cannot deduce it from your comment. o_0 What seminars? What religious debates? Who deemed what necessary? Who showed the drawings to the muslim world? The fundies did, it´s not like we send a copy of it to al jazeera. If things get misconstrued in that transaktion, how is it our fault? Are you even blaming us? I wish i knew your angle, it would make addressing your points a lot easier.

Sorry,didn't intend to get all aggressive/defensive or what

This entire thing arose if i remember corectly when that author said something about not being able to find ilustrator for his book (or her book)

I've read editorial that accompanied those cartoons (translation of editorial) criticising self censorship of Danish media.

Jullands Posten asked cartoonists to draw the Prophet as they saw him but i think that paper could (after seeing finished drawing) refuse to publish

This kind of debate is welcome but not in the way paper and cartoonists went about it

Islam doesn't forbid pictures of Prophet but it forbids caricatures of the same and in my opinion Danish toons were exactly that and nothing more

drawn simply to cause controversy and inflame public opinion ,well they have succeeded :D

I can read english.

but what you wrote had no relevance to a guy drawing a picture of muhammed with a bomb on his head.

if he was so truley concerned about islam he would have found a more meaningful approach of opening dialogue than flat out insulting them when he knows full well drawing the face of muhammed is forbidden.

Deano

I´m sure you can. But can you comprehend the material you are reading, that´s what i´m questioning. :3

You say what i wrote has no relevance to the artist reasoning for drawing a caricature of muhammed with a bomb on his yet, even tho i supplied a perfectly reasonable explanation to what his reasoning potentially could be. It´s quite apparent, really.

Also, this is not about him being "truly concerned about islam", this is about an artist doing what artists usually tho, inspire to invoke thoughts and emotions. Why must he engage in dialogue with the motif, or people attached to the motif in one way or another, in order to theme an artistic activity around it? It is forbidden, but that law does not apply to us. Its not a universal law, so why should we adhere to it? The moderates in Denmark largely sided with the artist on this one, why did they not take offense? Because it was never meant to be taken offensively, anyone with an open mindset would notice this immediately.

drawn simply to cause controversy and inflame public opinion ,well they have succeeded :Dpecanin

You honestly don´t know that. You assume to know his motives, you cannot possibly claim to know them for sure, when there are reasonable alternative explanations ready at hand.

[QUOTE="pecanin"]drawn simply to cause controversy and inflame public opinion ,well they have succeeded :DBiancaDK

You honestly don´t know that. You assume to know his motives, you cannot possibly claim to know them for sure, when there are reasonable alternative explanations ready at hand.

Well i WAS in Denmark at the time

and that what you said about moderates supporting the cartoonist is a bit untrue

as for his motives they are clear

if i wanted to encourage debate i would draw Jesus in the bed with Mary Magdalene

if i wanted to inflame or anger faithful i would draw him in bed with a child

same applies here

debate can be encouraged in different ways

lets not forget who was supported until recently by the same paper or who are two of its trustees ;)

[QUOTE="BiancaDK"]

[QUOTE="pecanin"]drawn simply to cause controversy and inflame public opinion ,well they have succeeded :Dpecanin

You honestly don´t know that. You assume to know his motives, you cannot possibly claim to know them for sure, when there are reasonable alternative explanations ready at hand.

Well i WAS in Denmark at the time

and that what you said about moderates supporting the cartoonist is a bit untrue

as for his motives they are clear

if i wanted to encourage debate i would draw Jesus in the bed with Mary Magdalene

if i wanted to inflame or anger faithful i would draw him in bed with a child

same applies here

debate can be encouraged in different ways

lets not forget who was supported until recently by the same paper or who are two of its trustees ;)

[QUOTE="pecanin"]

[QUOTE="BiancaDK"]

You honestly don´t know that. You assume to know his motives, you cannot possibly claim to know them for sure, when there are reasonable alternative explanations ready at hand.

BiancaDK

Well i WAS in Denmark at the time

and that what you said about moderates supporting the cartoonist is a bit untrue

as for his motives they are clear

if i wanted to encourage debate i would draw Jesus in the bed with Mary Magdalene

if i wanted to inflame or anger faithful i would draw him in bed with a child

same applies here

debate can be encouraged in different ways

lets not forget who was supported until recently by the same paper or who are two of its trustees ;)

Thank you

finally agreed on something

i never said they didn't have right to do what they did,only that they could do it in more tastefull way

Paintings of Muhamed exist in many collections ( painted by Muslim artists)

but in this day and age all of us have to look at bigger picture (sadly)

Danish ppl and companies were punished by actions of few idiots

Im from Denmark!!!! :lol:

Am I supposed to feel sorry for this POS artist? The dirtbag asked for this, and I wouldn't be surprised if he gets killed.

Im from Denmark!!!! :lol:

Combii

Prove it by pulling some pastry from your pockets:D

Am I supposed to feel sorry for this POS artist? The dirtbag asked for this, and I wouldn't be surprised if he gets killed.

Renegade_Fury

.....Wow....

Action: Make a cartoon

Retaliation: Extreme Violence

...... That anyone can be ok with that level of retaliation for a petty issue like this dumbfounds me.

[QUOTE="Renegade_Fury"]Am I supposed to feel sorry for this POS artist? The dirtbag asked for this, and I wouldn't be surprised if he gets killed.

_Tobli_

.....Wow....

Action: Make a cartoon

Retaliation: Extreme Violence

...... That anyone can be ok with that level of retaliation for a petty issue like this dumbfounds me.

[QUOTE="_Tobli_"]

[QUOTE="Renegade_Fury"]Am I supposed to feel sorry for this POS artist? The dirtbag asked for this, and I wouldn't be surprised if he gets killed.

Renegade_Fury

.....Wow....

Action: Make a cartoon

Retaliation: Extreme Violence

...... That anyone can be ok with that level of retaliation for a petty issue like this dumbfounds me.

Pfft.. you mean to tell me he didn't know what he was doing? He intentionally tried to piss off Muslims by making a mockery of Muhammed and knew very damnn well what would happen. I feel no pity for scum.Renegade_Fury

As has been said previously in this thread. There are valid reasons for why this was portrayed.

I think the image is an interesting view of the image of islam in the west, and their actions against it further solidified that image.

[QUOTE="Renegade_Fury"]

[QUOTE="_Tobli_"]

.....Wow....

Action: Make a cartoon

Retaliation: Extreme Violence

...... That anyone can be ok with that level of retaliation for a petty issue like this dumbfounds me.

KungfuKitten

[QUOTE="KungfuKitten"][QUOTE="Renegade_Fury"] Pfft.. you mean to tell me he didn't know what he was doing? He intentionally tried to piss off Muslims by making a mockery of Muhammed and knew very damnn well what would happen. I feel no pity for scum.

Renegade_Fury

[QUOTE="Renegade_Fury"][QUOTE="KungfuKitten"] Hahaha. No he did it because it was funny. And it was. It seems every single person on this thread missed the purpose of cartoonists. They draw exaggerated things all the time to either make You think, make You laugh, or both. I think he drew it to make people laugh and it certainly did work with me. I think that justifies the picture.KungfuKitten

[QUOTE="KungfuKitten"]

[QUOTE="Renegade_Fury"] Give me a break. People can hide by saying"oh it's just a cartoon" if it makes them feel better. It doesn't take a person of an IQ of any worth to know what the intention of the cartoon was. There is no sophisticated meaning or some profound political message. He wanted attention, and he got it. Renegade_Fury

Thank you. Finally agreed on something.pecanin

Am I supposed to feel sorry for this POS artist? The dirtbag asked for this, and I wouldn't be surprised if he gets killed.

Renegade_Fury

[QUOTE="Renegade_Fury"]

Am I supposed to feel sorry for this POS artist? The dirtbag asked for this, and I wouldn't be surprised if he gets killed.

Videodogg

[QUOTE="Videodogg"][QUOTE="Renegade_Fury"]

Am I supposed to feel sorry for this POS artist? The dirtbag asked for this, and I wouldn't be surprised if he gets killed.

Famiking