How can people be for killing unborn babies but oppose the death penalty for people that have committed horrednous crimes?
Because not everyone can agree on the definition of life and the time exactly when "life" therefore starts as a consequence of this. Even then, not everyone holds that "life" is inherently valuable (or that life is objectively with value) and instead that a life only has as much value as we judge it to have. Combine this philosophical viewpoint with more libertarian lines of thought "the state should not be able to kill citizens", and you have no contradiction whatsoever. So yes, you have two assumptions there that need to met (that "life" starts before birth and that "life" has objective, inherent value) before you can call out a contradiction on people who support abortions but oppose the death penalty. I have a certain contradiction to point out: "unborn babies" is a contradiction in terms. All babies are born, otherwise they're not babies. Babies are fully developed humans before they are born. They are humans like everyone else, and deserve the same right to life like everyone else. Call me horrible, but that's how I see things.Death Penalty, For or Against
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[QUOTE="Wikipedia"]The Death Penalty Information Center (U.S.) has published a list of 8 inmates "executed but possibly innocent", although none of them has yet had his innocence recognized by any courtherpderp9000
So no wrongfull excecutions have occured in the United States. I'm not talking about some comunist place like China where people are killed for dissing the party or something, I'm talking about the American system.
[QUOTE="herpderp9000"]The rate of homicides is higher for black people than white people, that is why there are a disproportionate number of people. Sajo7
Nope.
Even though blacks and whites are murder victims in nearly equal numbers of crimes, 80% of people executed since the death penalty was reinstated have been executed for murders involving white victims
And here is a summary to the particular source material they used.
http://www.newsdesk.umd.edu/pdf/exec.pdf
Then how come every person murdered in my city was black last year?
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[QUOTE="herpderp9000"]The rate of homicides is higher for black people than white people, that is why there are a disproportionate number of people. herpderp9000
Nope.
Even though blacks and whites are murder victims in nearly equal numbers of crimes, 80% of people executed since the death penalty was reinstated have been executed for murders involving white victims
And here is a summary to the particular source material they used.
http://www.newsdesk.umd.edu/pdf/exec.pdf
Then how come every person murdered in my city was black last year?
... Which city was this? And do you have information to back up this claim?
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[QUOTE="Sajo7"]
Nope.
Even though blacks and whites are murder victims in nearly equal numbers of crimes, 80% of people executed since the death penalty was reinstated have been executed for murders involving white victims
And here is a summary to the particular source material they used.
http://www.newsdesk.umd.edu/pdf/exec.pdf
Then how come every person murdered in my city was black last year?
... Which city was this? And do you have information to back up this claim?
St.Louis. I can't find a source, maybe it was in 2008. But I remember it being a contorversy that young black men were "dropping like flies" as one person said.[QUOTE="sSubZerOo"][QUOTE="herpderp9000"]
Then how come every person murdered in my city was black last year?
herpderp9000
... Which city was this? And do you have information to back up this claim?
St.Louis. I can't find a source, maybe it was in 2008. But I remember it being a contorversy that young black men were "dropping like flies" as one person said.THATS great and dandy, but yet again no proof on the claim that no white people were murdered in a major city.. This is a absurd claim if I have ever seen one.
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