Death Penalty, For or Against

[QUOTE="CptJSparrow"] Yargh, principles are such a silly thing. It's time for man to become something 'higher'. And I'm not talking about an increase on the y-axis....T_P_O

I don't even understand the second and third sentences of this post

[QUOTE="TELLMEYOURLIFE"][QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"]An eye for an eye, a tooth for a tooth.CptJSparrow

[QUOTE="CptJSparrow"][QUOTE="TELLMEYOURLIFE"]Why? Revenge is silly.TELLMEYOURLIFE

Erm ya they are... they are not on the levels of say a suburban home, but they aren't as bad as living in a slum (in first world countries that is)

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[QUOTE="CptJSparrow"] Yargh, principles are such a silly thing. It's time for man to become something 'higher'. And I'm not talking about an increase on the y-axis....CptJSparrow

I don't even understand the second and third sentences of this post

[QUOTE="TELLMEYOURLIFE"][QUOTE="CptJSparrow"] Paying to keep a murder alive and comfortable in prison is sillier.Espada12

Erm ya they are... they are not on the levels of say a suburban home, but they aren't as bad as living in a slum (in first world countries that is)

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[QUOTE="TELLMEYOURLIFE"]ITT high security prisons are comfortable.TELLMEYOURLIFE

Erm ya they are... they are not on the levels of say a suburban home, but they aren't as bad as living in a slum (in first world countries that is)

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[QUOTE="TELLMEYOURLIFE"]ITT high security prisons are comfortable.TELLMEYOURLIFE

Erm ya they are... they are not on the levels of say a suburban home, but they aren't as bad as living in a slum (in first world countries that is)

[QUOTE="T_P_O"] Epic strawman, he never said he didn't care about justice, only that revenge was silly.CptJSparrow

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Erm ya they are... they are not on the levels of say a suburban home, but they aren't as bad as living in a slum (in first world countries that is)

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Erm ya they are... they are not on the levels of say a suburban home, but they aren't as bad as living in a slum (in first world countries that is)

needled24-7

[QUOTE="super_mario_128"] I assume you think it's justice to put an innocent man wrongly-accused of murder to death, too. Or at least worth it so that THE BAD BAD PEOPLE can be eradicated from the world for no good reason just to sate your moral scruples.CptJSparrow

We should keep them alive yes. There's no reason to kill them, and the risk of killing innocents is not worth it. TELLMEYOURLIFE

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[QUOTE="CptJSparrow"][QUOTE="super_mario_128"] I assume you think it's justice to put an innocent man wrongly-accused of murder to death, too. Or at least worth it so that THE BAD BAD PEOPLE can be eradicated from the world for no good reason just to sate your moral scruples.super_mario_128

Yea they are, not only do we have to pay for them to survive but they are able to possibly see and write their families, and that is something that should be taken from them via death.

That's not based on justice - justice is retributive. Your justification is deterrent.HAHAITHINKNOT

[QUOTE="super_mario_128"][QUOTE="CptJSparrow"] Yes, we should keep all murderers alive become some are wrongly accused. Makes perfect sense.Espada12

Yea they are, not only do we have to pay for them to survive but they are able to possibly see and write their families, and that is something that should be taken from them via death.

[QUOTE="HAHAITHINKNOT"]That's not based on justice - justice is retributive. Your justification is deterrent.CptJSparrow

[QUOTE="HAHAITHINKNOT"]That's not based on justice - justice is retributive. Your justification is deterrent.CptJSparrow

What of course it is relative. We can punish crimes without clenching your blood thirst.TELLMEYOURLIFE

A murder does not have the right to live.CptJSparrow

[QUOTE="TELLMEYOURLIFE"]Why? Revenge is silly.Stevo_the_gamer

Also, depends on your philosophy whether or not justice is relative. Regardless, the good chaps of OT will keep you in debate, for I am not really going to be stating new points from this moment onwards.

[QUOTE="testfactor888"][QUOTE="TELLMEYOURLIFE"]So is the death penalty. cee1gee

tt writing your mum a letter constitutes a threat to the very fabric of civilisation.HAHAITHINKNOT

Never said it was, I is however a luxury murders should not have and killing them is the best way to ensure they don't get it.

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tt writing your mum a letter constitutes a threat to the very fabric of civilisation.Espada12

Never said it was, I is however a luxury murders should not have and killing them is the best way to ensure they don't get it.

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tt writing your mum a letter constitutes a threat to the very fabric of civilisation.Espada12

Never said it was, I is however a luxury murders should not have and killing them is the best way to ensure they don't get it.

Why does it matter if they get it or not? Who cares.. If the death peanlty isn't a deterrent which we can consider probably the worse punishment.. Then its not going to matter what punishment they get.. Life imprisonment is about keeping them out of civilization so they can never harm it together.. THAT should be the FIRST and last reason on deciding what to do with people who committ a capital offense.