Did you want Barack Obama to win?

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[QUOTE="Snipes_2"]

At least he doesn't need a Tele-Prompter for everything. Anyone remember Obama thanking himself when the Tele-Prompter shorted out?

darkmoney52

He has set a pullout date for Iraq, and along with congress has passed some laws protecting Americans from credit card companies.

[QUOTE="With-Hatred"]

[QUOTE="Snipes_2"]

At least he doesn't need a Tele-Prompter for everything. Anyone remember Obama thanking himself when the Tele-Prompter shorted out?

Ragnarok1051

Considering I reall didn't like either candidates in the election, it really came down to the lesser of the two evils. I still don't know who I would prefer, but I guess it doesn't matter because I can't vote (next election I will be able to vote though. :D). I hope Obama is great president and three years from now I can say "Wow he did a lot of great things for this country" but only time will tell.

Lol, yeah, it's not like he was able to organize a mass job training program or housing systme in Chicago or anything lol. Guess Poor people in Chicago don't live in the real world or something lol.

Also, try and use your brain here, Harvard law is a very very difficult school to get into, you have to have incredibly good grades, pass difficult examination processes along with a number of intelligence tests, now Obama was able to get in coming from a poor family. Do you really think he would have gotten in had he not shown real talent?

Well I guess you're right, it's perfectly reasonable to believe a president can get rid of the national debt, get out of Iraq and solve the problems with our education system in under one year when the courty has been dealing with those things for years.With-Hatred

It was reasonable enough when they expected Bush to do it :)

No. I even would rather have had H. Clinton win.

Pirate700

Strong words dude. I can't say I agree. I think she would have been quite a bit more aggressive.

No. I didn't want McCain either.

Yes, because republicans need a break to get their affairs in order.. especially how that entire electoral campaign went.

No.

I didn't want McCain to win, either.

Or Nader.

Or Bob Barr.

Or anyone who was running.

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[QUOTE="With-Hatred"]tele-prompter? lol excuses. Obama graduated from Harvared law, McCain graduated 5th from the bottom of his class. Face it, one's intelligent, the other's a moron, thank god we didn't get another Bush in office.

With-Hatred

He has set a pullout date for Iraq, and along with congress has passed some laws protecting Americans from credit card companies.

That being said, President Obama hasn't really accelerated the withdrawl rate. His plan doesn't seem to differ much from Bush's at all. He has also quadrupled the Federal defecit. I'm also pretty sure that credit card problems are on the bottom of the list of serious problems we have right now. It really seems like a third Bush term to me.

No. I even would rather have had H. Clinton win.

Pirate700

What if it was Clinton with Carter as VP?

I didn't want neither of them to win XD4NTESINF3RNOX

Well, both of them can't win. Only one.

Sorry, lame "double negative" joke :)

I did not vote for him and obviously did not want him to win. What has the guy done in the past year except apologizing to the world for America.

His stimulus package was a total waste, $700 billion down the drain, remember when they said unemployment would not go above 8%? Well its over 10% now and their excuse is it would have been a lot higher without the package, yeah right. If you also count people who lost their full time jobs and settled for part-time, the number is over 17%. Now they say unemployment may not go below 8% for years.

Obama has spent more money in 6 months than Bush did in 8 YEARS!

Remember when the media would make fun of Bush playing golf, well Obama has played more golf so far than Bush played in his first 3 years in office. Just shows you what side the media is on.

I did not vote for him and obviously did not want him to win. What has the guy done in the past year except apologizing to the world for America.

His stimulus package was a total waste, $700 billion down the drain, remember when they said unemployment would not go above 8%? Well its over 10% now and their excuse is it would have been a lot higher without the package, yeah right. If you also count people who lost their full time jobs and settled for part-time, the number is over 17%. Now they say unemployment may not go below 8% for years.

Obama has spent more money in 6 months than Bush did in 8 YEARS!

Remember when the media would make fun of Bush playing golf, well Obama has played more golf so far than Bush played in his first 3 years in office.

Cobra1237

Beside the golf thing I would hope you realised that obama and bush had two different situations when elected..

No. Did I want Mccain to win? No.

I was pulling for Ron Paul.

No. Did I want Mccain to win? No.

I was pulling for Ron Paul.

LikeHaterade

*Pssst* I wrote his name in.

[QUOTE="Cobra1237"]

I did not vote for him and obviously did not want him to win. What has the guy done in the past year except apologizing to the world for America.

His stimulus package was a total waste, $700 billion down the drain, remember when they said unemployment would not go above 8%? Well its over 10% now and their excuse is it would have been a lot higher without the package, yeah right. If you also count people who lost their full time jobs and settled for part-time, the number is over 17%. Now they say unemployment may not go below 8% for years.

Obama has spent more money in 6 months than Bush did in 8 YEARS!

Remember when the media would make fun of Bush playing golf, well Obama has played more golf so far than Bush played in his first 3 years in office.

Espada12

Beside the golf thing I would hope you realised that obama and bush had two different situations when elected..

How does that change the fact that the stimulus was a total waste or that people knock Bush for all the spending when Obama has spent more in his first six months than Bush did in 8 years combined?

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No. Did I want Mccain to win? No.

I was pulling for Ron Paul.

m0zart

*Pssst* I wrote his name in.

Likewise! Also sent money to his cause. =P

Likewise! Also sent money to his cause. =PLikeHaterade

Yeah I sent the maximum I could for his GOP campaign. And I still contribute to him and to an organization connected to him.

Maybe I'm ignorant of this but, who is "Ron Paul"? Name sounds familiar, I just can't place who he is. :?

I suppose so. Although I wanted H. Clinton to win the democratic ticket. The Clinton's as one President would have been awesome, in my opinion.

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[QUOTE="With-Hatred"]tele-prompter? lol excuses. Obama graduated from Harvared law, McCain graduated 5th from the bottom of his class. Face it, one's intelligent, the other's a moron, thank god we didn't get another Bush in office.

With-Hatred

He has set a pullout date for Iraq, and along with congress has passed some laws protecting Americans from credit card companies.

[QUOTE="Snipes_2"]

[QUOTE="With-Hatred"]McCain Moderate? lol lol, he was moderately stupid if that's what you mean.

With-Hatred

At least he doesn't need a Tele-Prompter for everything. Anyone remember Obama thanking himself when the Tele-Prompter shorted out?

Yes, I did.

i am not old enough to vote, but i dont think we needed a conservative in office after the way bush left us. if we want the economy and health care to improve,we will need a liberal head of state. because 8 years of how bush ran was not good enough, staying the same probably wont help.

but what do i know im 14. this is just how i think i understand.

[QUOTE="With-Hatred"]

[QUOTE="Snipes_2"]

At least he doesn't need a Tele-Prompter for everything. Anyone remember Obama thanking himself when the Tele-Prompter shorted out?

peaceful_anger

well i hardly think a teleprompter is a legit excuse..

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[QUOTE="With-Hatred"]tele-prompter? lol excuses. Obama graduated from Harvared law, McCain graduated 5th from the bottom of his class. Face it, one's intelligent, the other's a moron, thank god we didn't get another Bush in office.

Noskillkill

well i hardly think a teleprompter is a legit excuse..

He was supposedly a "Great Orator". It's completely legitimate in this case.

Obama isn't a conservative by the way. He's a Liberal Democrat.

Personally I believe he's a communist and he acts like a Dictator. Before posting inane remarks in reply to this, first look back on history at previous regimes that have toppled. Many characteristics appear in Obama.

I didn't vote, but I wanted him to win. Luckily we got the lesser of two evils.

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[QUOTE="peaceful_anger"] I swear people put too much emphasis on where one graduates. Who gives a flying rats *** if Obama went to Haaaaaaaaaarvard. Just because you go to Haaaaaaaaaaarvard, Yale, or Princeton doesn't mean you will be a good President. Heck look at our Congress. The majority of them went to these highly esteemed Universities, and look at the mess America is in eventhough they are supposed to be the best and the brightest.

Snipes_2

well i hardly think a teleprompter is a legit excuse..

He was supposedly a "Great Orator". It's completely legitimate in this case.

Obama isn't a conservative by the way. He's a Liberal Democrat.

Personally I believe he's a communist and he acts like a Dictator. Before posting inane remarks in reply to this, first look back on history at previous regimes that have toppled. Many characteristics appear in Obama.

I'm surprised you didn't just go all out and compare Obama to Hitler.:roll:

I'm almost afraid to ask, but what similarities did you find that allows you to compare Obama to a dictator?

EDIT: Ok, that last sentence was a bit presumptuous. I should give you the chance to say your reasons before assuming you are wrong.

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[QUOTE="Noskillkill"]

well i hardly think a teleprompter is a legit excuse..

HomicidalCherry

He was supposedly a "Great Orator". It's completely legitimate in this case.

Obama isn't a conservative by the way. He's a Liberal Democrat.

Personally I believe he's a communist and he acts like a Dictator. Before posting inane remarks in reply to this, first look back on history at previous regimes that have toppled. Many characteristics appear in Obama.

I'm surprised you didn't just go all out and compare Obama to Hitler.:roll:

I'm almost afraid to ask, but what semi-relevant, trivial similarities did you find that allows you to compare Obama to a dictator?

dic⋅ta⋅tor

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–noun1.a person exercising absolute power, esp. a ruler who has absolute, unrestricted control in a government without hereditary succession.

Whilst Obama can thankfully be replaced, He believes he has absolute power, which is not the case.

Whenever you oppose Obama he takes it to the media to begin with. He openly mocks the people of the country he's ruling on television. He tries to downsize anything that he feels is an afront to his rule (I.e. The Tea Parties). Not to mention every time I see this "Great Orator" he states that he's "The President of the United States". I watched him for a Half an Hour, in that time he stated he was "The President" more than 6 times.

"Stalin made efforts to augment his public image and acult of personalitydeveloped around him.

"Source:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stalin

[QUOTE="With-Hatred"]Well I guess you're right, it's perfectly reasonable to believe a president can get rid of the national debt, get out of Iraq and solve the problems with our education system in under one year when the courty has been dealing with those things for years.m0zart

It was reasonable enough when they expected Bush to do it :)

Maybe. I do support his healthcare reform, but not all that much else. In my opinion he's far too lax on defending homosexual liberties against bigotry, he caves in too much to Right wing demands and as far as I can tell he hasn't done much to defend his policies.

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[QUOTE="peaceful_anger"] I swear people put too much emphasis on where one graduates. Who gives a flying rats *** if Obama went to Haaaaaaaaaarvard. Just because you go to Haaaaaaaaaaarvard, Yale, or Princeton doesn't mean you will be a good President. Heck look at our Congress. The majority of them went to these highly esteemed Universities, and look at the mess America is in eventhough they are supposed to be the best and the brightest.

Snipes_2

well i hardly think a teleprompter is a legit excuse..

He was supposedly a "Great Orator". It's completely legitimate in this case.

Obama isn't a conservative by the way. He's a Liberal Democrat.

Personally I believe he's a communist and he acts like a Dictator. Before posting inane remarks in reply to this, first look back on history at previous regimes that have toppled. Many characteristics appear in Obama.

[QUOTE="Noskillkill"]

[QUOTE="peaceful_anger"] I swear people put too much emphasis on where one graduates. Who gives a flying rats *** if Obama went to Haaaaaaaaaarvard. Just because you go to Haaaaaaaaaaarvard, Yale, or Princeton doesn't mean you will be a good President. Heck look at our Congress. The majority of them went to these highly esteemed Universities, and look at the mess America is in eventhough they are supposed to be the best and the brightest.

Snipes_2

well i hardly think a teleprompter is a legit excuse..

He was supposedly a "Great Orator". It's completely legitimate in this case.

Obama isn't a conservative by the way. He's a Liberal Democrat.

Personally I believe he's a communist and he acts like a Dictator. Before posting inane remarks in reply to this, first look back on history at previous regimes that have toppled. Many characteristics appear in Obama.

i know he is a liberal. i didnt make it clear earlier i guess. but i know. and he isnt really communist. i dont know much of his polocies, but i doubt he wants to own all businesses and give them to the government, he just wants more control of the businesses, a socialist(which i dont really like, but it could help, look at Wal Mart. they are crushing evryone and it could hurt us soon, economically.) and i dont remember him doing anything like a dictator. that is just that weak excuse i hear from so many republicans and anit-obama people.

"A liberal or progressive in theDemocratic Party (United States)"

"A large majority of liberals favoruniversal health care"

"A large majority of liberals favoruniversal health care, with many supporting asingle-payer system. A majority also favordiplomacyovermilitary action,stem cell research, the legalization ofsame-sex marriage, secular government, strictergun control, and environmental protection laws as well as the preservation ofabortion rights"

"Immigration andcultural diversityis deemed positive; liberals favorcultural pluralism, a system in which immigrants retain their native culture in addition to adopting their new culture."

He's a Liberal according to this.

Source:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democratic_Party_(United_States)#Liberals

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[QUOTE="Snipes_2"]

He was supposedly a "Great Orator". It's completely legitimate in this case.

Obama isn't a conservative by the way. He's a Liberal Democrat.

Personally I believe he's a communist and he acts like a Dictator. Before posting inane remarks in reply to this, first look back on history at previous regimes that have toppled. Many characteristics appear in Obama.

Snipes_2

I'm surprised you didn't just go all out and compare Obama to Hitler.:roll:

I'm almost afraid to ask, but what semi-relevant, trivial similarities did you find that allows you to compare Obama to a dictator?

dic⋅ta⋅tor

  [dik-tey-ter,dik-tey-ter]Show IPA

–noun1.a person exercising absolute power, esp. a ruler who has absolute, unrestricted control in a government without hereditary succession.Whilst Obama can thankfully be replaced, He believes he has absolute power, which is not the case.Whenever you oppose Obama he takes it to the media to begin with. He openly mocks the people of the country he's ruling on television. He tries to downsize anything that he feels is an afront to his rule (I.e. The Tea Parties). Not to mention every time I see this "Great Orator" he states that he's "The President of the United States". I watched him for a Half an Hour, in that time he stated he was "The President" more than 6 times. "Stalin made efforts to augment his public image and acult of personalitydeveloped around him."Source:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stalin

That isn't really dictatorial....at all. He hasn't exercised the veto once and he has never once overstepped the bounds of the presidency. I fail to see how criticizing opponents and calling himself the president (which he is) is acting like a dictator. Even mocking the people of the country isn't dictatorial. I would say that that is being an a-hole, not a dictator (though I don't recognize that he actually does belittle the people of his country every chance he gets).

The fact is that what you have here amounts to little more than criticism. If he were making tea parties illegal or not allow the opposing parties to speak or campaign, he would be acting like a dictator. But as is, you could make a better case for Lincoln or Jackson being a dictator than Obama.

[QUOTE="Snipes_2"]

[QUOTE="Noskillkill"]

well i hardly think a teleprompter is a legit excuse..

Noskillkill

He was supposedly a "Great Orator". It's completely legitimate in this case.

Obama isn't a conservative by the way. He's a Liberal Democrat.

Personally I believe he's a communist and he acts like a Dictator. Before posting inane remarks in reply to this, first look back on history at previous regimes that have toppled. Many characteristics appear in Obama.

i know he is a liberal. i didnt make it clear earlier i guess. but i know. and he isnt really communist. i dont know much of his polocies, but i doubt he wants to own all businesses and give them to the government, he just wants more control of the businesses, a socialist(which i dont really like, but it could help, look at Wal Mart. they are crushing evryone and it could hurt us soon, economically.) and i dont remember him doing anything like a dictator. that is just that weak excuse i hear from so many republicans and anit-obama people.

Refer to my other post for his Dictator-esque qualities. He already took over GM. He's taking a step in the right direction.

"Ranked by global unit sales for 2008, it was the world's second largest automaker"

SOurce:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/General_Motors

[QUOTE="HomicidalCherry"]

[QUOTE="Snipes_2"]

He was supposedly a "Great Orator". It's completely legitimate in this case.

Obama isn't a conservative by the way. He's a Liberal Democrat.

Personally I believe he's a communist and he acts like a Dictator. Before posting inane remarks in reply to this, first look back on history at previous regimes that have toppled. Many characteristics appear in Obama.

Snipes_2

I'm surprised you didn't just go all out and compare Obama to Hitler.:roll:

I'm almost afraid to ask, but what semi-relevant, trivial similarities did you find that allows you to compare Obama to a dictator?

dic⋅ta⋅tor

  [dik-tey-ter,dik-tey-ter]Show IPA

–noun1.a person exercising absolute power, esp. a ruler who has absolute, unrestricted control in a government without hereditary succession.

Whilst Obama can thankfully be replaced, He believes he has absolute power, which is not the case.

Whenever you oppose Obama he takes it to the media to begin with. He openly mocks the people of the country he's ruling on television. He tries to downsize anything that he feels is an afront to his rule (I.e. The Tea Parties). Not to mention every time I see this "Great Orator" he states that he's "The President of the United States". I watched him for a Half an Hour, in that time he stated he was "The President" more than 6 times.

"Stalin made efforts to augment his public image and acult of personalitydeveloped around him.

"Source:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stalin

OMGZ he IS a dictator! saying many times that he is president! and to mock what he doesn't like!? that is just LIKE Hitler and that the media announces things that oppose Obama!!! I'll bet the swine forced them to do it!!

:| no.

That isn't really dictatorial....at all. He hasn't exercised the veto once and he has never once overstepped the bounds of the presidency. I fail to see how criticizing opponents and calling himself the president (which he is) is acting like a dictator. Even mocking the people of the country isn't dictatorial. I would say that that is being an a-hole, not a dictator (though I don't recognize that he actually does belittle the people of his country every chance he gets).

The fact is that what you have here amounts to little more than criticism. If he were making tea parties illegal or not allow the opposing parties to speak or campaign, he would be acting like a dictator. But as is, you could make a better case for Lincoln or Jackson being a dictator than Obama.

"Stalin made efforts to augment his public image and acult of personalitydeveloped around him."

This is exactly what Obama is doing. By mocking the people of the country, and anything that opposes him. He even took a stab at Fox News during a Press conference.

[QUOTE="Snipes_2"]

[QUOTE="HomicidalCherry"]

I'm surprised you didn't just go all out and compare Obama to Hitler.:roll:

I'm almost afraid to ask, but what semi-relevant, trivial similarities did you find that allows you to compare Obama to a dictator?

Noskillkill

dic⋅ta⋅tor

  [dik-tey-ter,dik-tey-ter]Show IPA

–noun1.a person exercising absolute power, esp. a ruler who has absolute, unrestricted control in a government without hereditary succession.

Whilst Obama can thankfully be replaced, He believes he has absolute power, which is not the case.

Whenever you oppose Obama he takes it to the media to begin with. He openly mocks the people of the country he's ruling on television. He tries to downsize anything that he feels is an afront to his rule (I.e. The Tea Parties). Not to mention every time I see this "Great Orator" he states that he's "The President of the United States". I watched him for a Half an Hour, in that time he stated he was "The President" more than 6 times.

"Stalin made efforts to augment his public image and acult of personalitydeveloped around him.

"Source:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stalin

OMGZ he IS a dictator! saying many times that he is president! and to mock what he doesn't like!? that is just LIKE Hitler and that the media announces things that oppose Obama!!! I'll bet the swine forced them to do it!!

:| no.

I love how both of you ignored the correlation between him and Stalin. Now, If you're through with your ill informed rant, Please form a Logical rebuttal.

Snipes_2

That isn't really dictatorial....at all. He hasn't exercised the veto once and he has never once overstepped the bounds of the presidency. I fail to see how criticizing opponents and calling himself the president (which he is) is acting like a dictator. Even mocking the people of the country isn't dictatorial. I would say that that is being an a-hole, not a dictator (though I don't recognize that he actually does belittle the people of his country every chance he gets).

The fact is that what you have here amounts to little more than criticism. If he were making tea parties illegal or not allow the opposing parties to speak or campaign, he would be acting like a dictator. But as is, you could make a better case for Lincoln or Jackson being a dictator than Obama.

"Stalin made efforts to augment his public image and acult of personalitydeveloped around him."

This is exactly what Obama is doing. By mocking the people of the country, and anything that opposes him. He even took a stab at Fox News during a Press conference.

yeh but many people mock many things. its just a part of everyone. i do it, im sure you do it. im sure that guy over there there does it. and that lady behind us. and that guy who just went in the building across the street. you get it. if he wasnt president you wouldnt give a rats-ass what he mocked. but since he has presidency, his dislikes and opinions and mocking become a major concern that the guy might be a dictator. even if he was, do you think he could pull off overthrowing the country and siezing it?

"A liberal or progressive in theDemocratic Party (United States)"

"A large majority of liberals favoruniversal health care"

"A large majority of liberals favoruniversal health care, with many supporting asingle-payer system. A majority also favordiplomacyovermilitary action,stem cell research, the legalization ofsame-sex marriage, secular government, strictergun control, and environmental protection laws as well as the preservation ofabortion rights"

"Immigration andcultural diversityis deemed positive; liberals favorcultural pluralism, a system in which immigrants retain their native culture in addition to adopting their new culture."

He's a Liberal according to this.

Source:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democratic_Party_(United_States)#Liberals

Snipes_2

According to that Wikipedia page he's not that liberal - in fact that article reveals that he is quite moderate. If you look at the "international political spectrum" so to speak, Obama wouldn't even be considered a moderate, he resembles a conservative, of all things.