Do u accept g@y marriage?

[QUOTE="Nickman71"]

[QUOTE="SIapshot"]What makes you think I found ONE article? Ever done an internet search before? And what makes my ONE article false? Your reference to hundreds of years of human history? Does drilling into the skull really cure migrane headaches?SIapshot

*Sigh*

Scientific method

"Since Ibn al-Haytham (Alhazen, 965–1039), a pioneer of scientific method, the emphasis has been on seeking truth"

2008 - 1039 = 969

Yes, and that's one case of fraud out of hundreds and hundreds of thousands of successful cases of peer review.

Learning how to research good sources is an important skill, if you one lacks it, it would be very difficult to hold down many white collar jobs, or get through many college courses.SIapshot

[QUOTE="SIapshot"][QUOTE="Nickman71"]

[QUOTE="SIapshot"]What makes you think I found ONE article? Ever done an internet search before? And what makes my ONE article false? Your reference to hundreds of years of human history? Does drilling into the skull really cure migrane headaches?Nickman71

*Sigh*

Scientific method

"Since Ibn al-Haytham (Alhazen, 965–1039), a pioneer of scientific method, the emphasis has been on seeking truth"

2008 - 1039 = 969

Yes, and that's one case of fraud out of hundreds and hundreds of thousands of successful cases of peer review.

It is interesting to note that every civilization that's ever accepted this had been wiped out...America, I believe, if it keeps this up, will be added to the list, as well.
Also, in the Bible, the cities Sodom and Gommorrah were destroyed greatly in part because of things like this.

Crushmaster

:lol: i think this has to be the funniest post i've read all day

[QUOTE="murlow12"][QUOTE="Oriental_Jams"]

[QUOTE="murlow12"][QUOTE="Ring_of_fire"]Not all gay men are effeminant, don't generalize a whole group of people. Oriental_Jams

Then how come numerous animals also show homosexual activity?

The genetic basis of animal homosexuality has been studiedin certain species of flies. Here, multiple genes have been identified that can cause homosexual courtship and mating. These genes are thought to control behavior through pheromones as well as altering the structure of the animal's brains. These studies have also investigated the influence of environment on the likelihood of flies displaying homosexual behavior.

[QUOTE="murlow12"][QUOTE="MindFreeze"]

[QUOTE="murlow12"][QUOTE="Ring_of_fire"]Please make the choice to be gay Get into a gay relationship for more than 5 years. Then, maybe you'll understand it isn;t a choice, because you can't do it MindFreeze

Ofcourse you could do it. That's not the point. The point is that you could never be ATTRACTED to the person because you aren't homosexual. That's what it's about, not your ability to have a sexual relationship with someone of the same sex, but that you need to be born a certain way to be attracted to the person.

This is not a discussion of taste. It's about being attracted to either the same or opposite sex. If you are truly straight, you would never feel sexually attracted to any guy. Now the "challenge" is to, as a straight guy, try to become sexually attracted to another guy. It's not possible. You can pretend, and you can be sexually active with that person, but you'll never actually be chemically attracted to him/her. Making sense yet?

I really wish people would get off the debate of whether or not homosexuality is nature or nurtion. It would be all well-and-fine if people were looking to be more educated on the subject, however, that is not the case. Both sides, in general, use it as excuse to support their side of the debate. Distraction from the issue, in all honesty.

I did, it's caused by hormonal changes or genetics, and your sources are unreliable, that's not ad hominem, that's fact.yoshi-lnex

[QUOTE="MindFreeze"][QUOTE="murlow12"][QUOTE="MindFreeze"]

[QUOTE="murlow12"][QUOTE="Ring_of_fire"]Please make the choice to be gay Get into a gay relationship for more than 5 years. Then, maybe you'll understand it isn;t a choice, because you can't do it murlow12

Ofcourse you could do it. That's not the point. The point is that you could never be ATTRACTED to the person because you aren't homosexual. That's what it's about, not your ability to have a sexual relationship with someone of the same sex, but that you need to be born a certain way to be attracted to the person.

This is not a discussion of taste. It's about being attracted to either the same or opposite sex. If you are truly straight, you would never feel sexually attracted to any guy. Now the "challenge" is to, as a straight guy, try to become sexually attracted to another guy. It's not possible. You can pretend, and you can be sexually active with that person, but you'll never actually be chemically attracted to him/her. Making sense yet?

What is ridiculous about it? It just proves that you cannot change your chemical attraction, and further proves it is not a choice to be gay

[QUOTE="Oriental_Jams"][QUOTE="murlow12"][QUOTE="Oriental_Jams"]

[QUOTE="murlow12"][QUOTE="Ring_of_fire"]Not all gay men are effeminant, don't generalize a whole group of people. murlow12

Then how come numerous animals also show homosexual activity?

The genetic basis of animal homosexuality has been studiedin certain species of flies. Here, multiple genes have been identified that can cause homosexual courtship and mating. These genes are thought to control behavior through pheromones as well as altering the structure of the animal's brains. These studies have also investigated the influence of environment on the likelihood of flies displaying homosexual behavior.

From Wikipedia (it may be nasty, but you asked):

"Bonobo males frequently engage in various forms of male-male genital sex (frot). One form has two males hang from a tree limb face-to-face while penis fencing. Frot may also occur where two males rub their penises together while in missionary position. A special form of frot called "rump rubbing" occurs to express reconciliation between two males after a conflict, where they stand back-to-back and rub their scrotal sacs together."

"Bonobo females also engage in female-female genital sex to socially bond with each other, thus forming a female nucleus of Bonobo society."

Also:

Male penguin couples have been documented to mate for life, build nests together, and to use a stone as a surrogate egg in nesting and brooding.

Sure I do. There's nothing wrong in that.

[QUOTE="murlow12"][QUOTE="Oriental_Jams"]

[QUOTE="murlow12"][QUOTE="Ring_of_fire"]Not all gay men are effeminant, don't generalize a whole group of people. Nickman71

Then how come numerous animals also show homosexual activity?

WRONG.

Male penguin couples have been documented to mate for life, build nests together, and to use a stone as a surrogate egg in nesting and brooding.

http://www.narth.com/docs/animalmyth.html

I know, it's from another "hate group" :roll" but it's got some pretty valuable info in there.

[QUOTE="yoshi-lnex"]I did, it's caused by hormonal changes or genetics, and your sources are unreliable, that's not ad hominem, that's fact.SIapshot

The more I see the religious attack homosexuality using the "God/bible says so/" and "Its not natural/is a choice" (blah blah) excuses, the more I lose faith in their intelligence.Cedmln

So what it's gonna be? Should we argue the Bible, which you ignore, or should we argue science, which you also ignore?

[QUOTE="Nickman71"][QUOTE="murlow12"][QUOTE="Oriental_Jams"]

[QUOTE="murlow12"][QUOTE="Ring_of_fire"]Not all gay men are effeminant, don't generalize a whole group of people. murlow12

Then how come numerous animals also show homosexual activity?

WRONG.

Male penguin couples have been documented to mate for life, build nests together, and to use a stone as a surrogate egg in nesting and brooding.

http://www.narth.com/docs/animalmyth.html

I know, it's from another "hate group" :roll" but it's got some pretty valuable info in there.

[QUOTE="yoshi-lnex"]I did, it's caused by hormonal changes or genetics, and your sources are unreliable, that's not ad hominem, that's fact.SIapshot

And every single source I present is straight from a medical or scientific journal/study. Since you seem to have missed my last two posts on the subject, I'll try again:

-Finger length ratio, a characteristic controlled by prenatal hormones, is different in people of distinct sexual orientations

-Auditory systems in the brain were found be larger in homosexual men than in heterosexual men

-The fraternal birth order effect is the strongest known predictor of sexual orientation. According to several studies, each older brother increases a man's odds of developing a homosexual sexual orientation by 28%–48%

-Gay men have, on average, have larger penises

-Gay men's brains respond differently to fluoxetine, a selective serotonin reuptake inhibitor.

-Three regions of the brain (medial prefrontal cortex, left hippocampus, and right amygdala) are more active in gay men than non-gay men when exposed to sexually arousing material.

-Gay and non-gay people emit different armpit odors

-Gay men are more likely to have a counter-clockwise hair whorl pattern

-Gay people are significantlymorelikely to be left-handed or ambidextrous than are straight people

-Gay men may receive higher scores than non-gay men on tests of object location memory

[QUOTE="Nickman71"][QUOTE="murlow12"][QUOTE="Oriental_Jams"]

[QUOTE="murlow12"][QUOTE="Ring_of_fire"]Not all gay men are effeminant, don't generalize a whole group of people. murlow12

Then how come numerous animals also show homosexual activity?

WRONG.

Male penguin couples have been documented to mate for life, build nests together, and to use a stone as a surrogate egg in nesting and brooding.

http://www.narth.com/docs/animalmyth.html

I know, it's from another "hate group" :roll" but it's got some pretty valuable info in there.

This is just embarassing for you.

[QUOTE="SIapshot"]

[QUOTE="yoshi-lnex"]I did, it's caused by hormonal changes or genetics, and your sources are unreliable, that's not ad hominem, that's fact.yoshi-lnex

[QUOTE="murlow12"][QUOTE="MindFreeze"][QUOTE="murlow12"][QUOTE="MindFreeze"]

[QUOTE="murlow12"][QUOTE="Ring_of_fire"]Please make the choice to be gay Get into a gay relationship for more than 5 years. Then, maybe you'll understand it isn;t a choice, because you can't do it MindFreeze

Ofcourse you could do it. That's not the point. The point is that you could never be ATTRACTED to the person because you aren't homosexual. That's what it's about, not your ability to have a sexual relationship with someone of the same sex, but that you need to be born a certain way to be attracted to the person.

This is not a discussion of taste. It's about being attracted to either the same or opposite sex. If you are truly straight, you would never feel sexually attracted to any guy. Now the "challenge" is to, as a straight guy, try to become sexually attracted to another guy. It's not possible. You can pretend, and you can be sexually active with that person, but you'll never actually be chemically attracted to him/her. Making sense yet?

What is ridiculous about it? It just proves that you cannot change your chemical attraction, and further proves it is not a choice to be gay

The main issue is procreation, which all of you liberals seem to be avoiding.

[QUOTE="yoshi-lnex"][QUOTE="SIapshot"]

[QUOTE="yoshi-lnex"]I did, it's caused by hormonal changes or genetics, and your sources are unreliable, that's not ad hominem, that's fact.SIapshot

and that reasoning doesn't make sence, are you saying a person should be able to cite anything no matter how terrible, and anybody saying that's not a good source should just accept it? That's ridiculous.

[QUOTE="MindFreeze"][QUOTE="murlow12"][QUOTE="MindFreeze"][QUOTE="murlow12"][QUOTE="MindFreeze"]

[QUOTE="murlow12"][QUOTE="Ring_of_fire"]Please make the choice to be gay Get into a gay relationship for more than 5 years. Then, maybe you'll understand it isn;t a choice, because you can't do it murlow12

Ofcourse you could do it. That's not the point. The point is that you could never be ATTRACTED to the person because you aren't homosexual. That's what it's about, not your ability to have a sexual relationship with someone of the same sex, but that you need to be born a certain way to be attracted to the person.

This is not a discussion of taste. It's about being attracted to either the same or opposite sex. If you are truly straight, you would never feel sexually attracted to any guy. Now the "challenge" is to, as a straight guy, try to become sexually attracted to another guy. It's not possible. You can pretend, and you can be sexually active with that person, but you'll never actually be chemically attracted to him/her. Making sense yet?

What is ridiculous about it? It just proves that you cannot change your chemical attraction, and further proves it is not a choice to be gay

The main issue is procreation, which all of you liberals seem to be avoiding.

[QUOTE="murlow12"][QUOTE="MindFreeze"][QUOTE="murlow12"][QUOTE="MindFreeze"][QUOTE="murlow12"][QUOTE="MindFreeze"]

[QUOTE="murlow12"][QUOTE="Ring_of_fire"]Please make the choice to be gay Get into a gay relationship for more than 5 years. Then, maybe you'll understand it isn;t a choice, because you can't do it yoshi-lnex

Ofcourse you could do it. That's not the point. The point is that you could never be ATTRACTED to the person because you aren't homosexual. That's what it's about, not your ability to have a sexual relationship with someone of the same sex, but that you need to be born a certain way to be attracted to the person.

This is not a discussion of taste. It's about being attracted to either the same or opposite sex. If you are truly straight, you would never feel sexually attracted to any guy. Now the "challenge" is to, as a straight guy, try to become sexually attracted to another guy. It's not possible. You can pretend, and you can be sexually active with that person, but you'll never actually be chemically attracted to him/her. Making sense yet?

What is ridiculous about it? It just proves that you cannot change your chemical attraction, and further proves it is not a choice to be gay

The main issue is procreation, which all of you liberals seem to be avoiding.

Links, or it didn't happen, dude.

Anyway, get married doesn't mean procreate. The having_children_being_gay is another topic. I mean, nobody's gonna get hurt if a guy go out with another guy...

[QUOTE="yoshi-lnex"][QUOTE="murlow12"][QUOTE="MindFreeze"][QUOTE="murlow12"][QUOTE="MindFreeze"][QUOTE="murlow12"][QUOTE="MindFreeze"]

[QUOTE="murlow12"][QUOTE="Ring_of_fire"]Please make the choice to be gay Get into a gay relationship for more than 5 years. Then, maybe you'll understand it isn;t a choice, because you can't do it Erinye_

Ofcourse you could do it. That's not the point. The point is that you could never be ATTRACTED to the person because you aren't homosexual. That's what it's about, not your ability to have a sexual relationship with someone of the same sex, but that you need to be born a certain way to be attracted to the person.

This is not a discussion of taste. It's about being attracted to either the same or opposite sex. If you are truly straight, you would never feel sexually attracted to any guy. Now the "challenge" is to, as a straight guy, try to become sexually attracted to another guy. It's not possible. You can pretend, and you can be sexually active with that person, but you'll never actually be chemically attracted to him/her. Making sense yet?

What is ridiculous about it? It just proves that you cannot change your chemical attraction, and further proves it is not a choice to be gay

The main issue is procreation, which all of you liberals seem to be avoiding.

Links, or it didn't happen, dude.

Anyway, get married doesn't mean procreate. The having_children_being_gay is another topic. I mean, nobody's gonna get hurt if a guy go out with another guy...

Artificial ensemination is pretty much common knowledge that it exists.....same with surrogate mothers.....

Nothing against them marrying, but I dont support them adopting.Big_Bad_Sad

you would rather have the children be stuck on the streets or in orphanages?

Nothing against them marrying, but I dont support them adopting.Big_Bad_Sad

Exactly. They'll turn their kids gay and pretty soon they'll convert the entire world over to their perverse religion of gayness.

The behavior of some Christians in here is disgusting and repulsive. Dear God, no wonder we're stereotyped as redneck idiots.

http://www.gamespot.com/users/Silvarach/

[QUOTE="Big_Bad_Sad"]Nothing against them marrying, but I dont support them adopting.mikeg0788

Exactly. They'll turn their kids gay and pretty soon they'll convert the entire world over to their perverse religion of gayness.

[QUOTE="mikeg0788"]

[QUOTE="Big_Bad_Sad"]Nothing against them marrying, but I dont support them adopting.bededog

Exactly. They'll turn their kids gay and pretty soon they'll convert the entire world over to their perverse religion of gayness.

[QUOTE="bededog"][QUOTE="mikeg0788"]

[QUOTE="Big_Bad_Sad"]Nothing against them marrying, but I dont support them adopting.Bourbons3

Exactly. They'll turn their kids gay and pretty soon they'll convert the entire world over to their perverse religion of gayness.

[QUOTE="Bourbons3"][QUOTE="bededog"][QUOTE="mikeg0788"]

[QUOTE="Big_Bad_Sad"]Nothing against them marrying, but I dont support them adopting.bededog

Exactly. They'll turn their kids gay and pretty soon they'll convert the entire world over to their perverse religion of gayness.

Nothing against them marrying, but I dont support them adopting.Big_Bad_Sad

[QUOTE="Big_Bad_Sad"]Nothing against them marrying, but I dont support them adopting.legend26

Holy hyperbole, Batman! Straight couples adopt too, you know.

[QUOTE="Big_Bad_Sad"]Nothing against them marrying, but I dont support them adopting.legend26

[QUOTE="legend26"][QUOTE="Big_Bad_Sad"]Nothing against them marrying, but I dont support them adopting.Silvarach

Holy hyperbole, Batman! Straight couples adopt too, you know.

Yes, and I support it :D

Why shouldn't they be able to marry someone they love because they're the same gender?

[QUOTE="Silvarach"]

[QUOTE="legend26"][QUOTE="Big_Bad_Sad"]Nothing against them marrying, but I dont support them adopting.legend26

Holy hyperbole, Batman! Straight couples adopt too, you know.

Do you even know how the adoption process works?

[QUOTE="legend26"][QUOTE="Silvarach"]

[QUOTE="legend26"][QUOTE="Big_Bad_Sad"]Nothing against them marrying, but I dont support them adopting.Silvarach

Holy hyperbole, Batman! Straight couples adopt too, you know.

Do you even know how the adoption process works?

[QUOTE="Erinye_"][QUOTE="yoshi-lnex"][QUOTE="murlow12"][QUOTE="MindFreeze"][QUOTE="murlow12"][QUOTE="MindFreeze"][QUOTE="murlow12"][QUOTE="MindFreeze"]

[QUOTE="murlow12"][QUOTE="Ring_of_fire"]Please make the choice to be gay Get into a gay relationship for more than 5 years. Then, maybe you'll understand it isn;t a choice, because you can't do it Ring_of_fire

Ofcourse you could do it. That's not the point. The point is that you could never be ATTRACTED to the person because you aren't homosexual. That's what it's about, not your ability to have a sexual relationship with someone of the same sex, but that you need to be born a certain way to be attracted to the person.

This is not a discussion of taste. It's about being attracted to either the same or opposite sex. If you are truly straight, you would never feel sexually attracted to any guy. Now the "challenge" is to, as a straight guy, try to become sexually attracted to another guy. It's not possible. You can pretend, and you can be sexually active with that person, but you'll never actually be chemically attracted to him/her. Making sense yet?

What is ridiculous about it? It just proves that you cannot change your chemical attraction, and further proves it is not a choice to be gay

The main issue is procreation, which all of you liberals seem to be avoiding.

Links, or it didn't happen, dude.

Anyway, get married doesn't mean procreate. The having_children_being_gay is another topic. I mean, nobody's gonna get hurt if a guy go out with another guy...

Artificial ensemination is pretty much common knowledge that it exists.....same with surrogate mothers.....

I know! I know!

I thought that he meant "A guy can get pregnant" :$

[QUOTE="legend26"][QUOTE="Big_Bad_Sad"]Nothing against them marrying, but I dont support them adopting.Silvarach

Holy hyperbole, Batman! Straight couples adopt too, you know.

[QUOTE="bededog"][QUOTE="mikeg0788"]

[QUOTE="Big_Bad_Sad"]Nothing against them marrying, but I dont support them adopting.Bourbons3

Exactly. They'll turn their kids gay and pretty soon they'll convert the entire world over to their perverse religion of gayness.

I'm sure it was sarcasm. Mike just doesn't strike me as somebody decrying the death of the 'family.'

Yes, and I support it :D

Why shouldn't they be able to marry someone they love because they're the same gender?

Yuppitt

Don't stop there, they should be able to have divorces as well. lol

I think it should be allowed in legal terms but I don't accept it in Biblical terms. But on that note I also don't think Biblical marriage should be any of the government's business. Why can't they just honor separation of Church and State?!Kalel559

Somehow secularism is equated as being atheism with most theocratic folks, as if one has to be an atheist to oppose sharia law. lol